[NAGDU] Hawaii

Wed May 31 00:13:56 UTC 2017

Wow, Jeannine, I was wauy of on when it was, and now hat I've read your post I see I was making mine up to suit my faulty memory. LOL. I can remember your posting a lot about this on the list we were all on together. It is weird that things are still a bit difficult, but I guess we'll all have to work to see if we can improve on it.
Cindy Lou Ray
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From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley via NAGDU
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii

I can tell you about the original settlement, which took place officially in August, 1998, nearly 20 years ago now. Much has changed since then. The original settlement was meant to get that proverbial foot or paw in the door to begin showing the Hawaiian state government that service animals of all stripes, well at least dogs, pose no threat to public health in the form of increased risks for Rabies. 

There have been owner trainers who have taken their guide and service dogs to Hawaii. 

Initially though the settlement involved only guide dogs, only guide dogs from the US mainland and only guide dogs trained at United States Council of Dog Guide Schools programs. Back then only 2 or 3 schools here were accredited by IGDF. 

In practice, there is no difference between the guide and service dog provisions for this exemption at this point. People have been turned away though if they did not follow the exemption provisions. One of them happened to be a service dog graduate of ours at America’s VetDogs who didn’t bother to check the rules before just going to Hawaii. He was stopped at the airport and forced to go back to the US at his expense. 

During the first year or so of the settlement, it wasn’t unusual for me to get calls after midnight from airport and quarantine officials in Hawaii or with airlines asking about certain guide dog schools or breeds. It was bizarre. It’s also hard to believe it was nearly 20 years ago too.
> On May 30, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Marianne Denning via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Michael. I have the information from that website. It says a a 
> person traveling with a guide dog must have proof the dog came from a 
> certified training program. The requirements are different for 
> "service animals." I think it is interesting that they treat the two differently.
> 
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Michael Hingson via NAGDU 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here is the link to the web page that describes all requirements,
>> http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/ai/aqs/animal-quarantine-information-
>> page/guide-servi
>> ce-dogs-entering-hawaii/. I am not seeing any differences between the 
>> entrance requirements for guide and other service dogs. A guide dog 
>> is defined as follows:
>> 
>> ""Guide dog" means any dog individually trained by a licensed guide 
>> dog trainer for guiding a blind person by means of a harness attached 
>> to the dog and a rigid handle grasped by the person." I wonder if 
>> that definition would hold up under the ADA. I have seen in some 
>> articles where Assistance Dogs International has set itself up as the 
>> expert and may well have been involved in that definition.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Denning via NAGDU
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>> Cc: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>> 
>> Our family plans a trip to Hawaii this summer. I was reading through 
>> the requirements and guide dogs are treated differently than service 
>> dogs. I would like to communicate directly with someone who has 
>> travelled to Hawaii recently to make sure I am doing the right 
>> things. My email is marianne at denningweb.com. Thanks for any assistance.
>> 
>> --
>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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