[NAGDU] choosing a school

Thu Nov 2 14:54:25 UTC 2017

Probably something specific to my trainer.

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I have never heard the term invisible stairs either..cindy lou ray

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> On Nov 2, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>            Invisible stairs??
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> When we were in class, Alec was tested on invisible stairs. The ones that appear to not exist until you are a few inches from them. He passed with flying colors! I never go ahead of him on stairs. He always takes the lead, no matter the situation.
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> Hi David,
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> Wow, Clare Rose sounds like a dream dog. Thanks for sharing the skill set from GDF. The only thing that concerns me about GDF is step refusal. Good idea if it is a set of stairs, but not so good if you are inadvertently steppping off a ledge or other drop off thinking it is stairs. I can't get my head around going ahead of the dog. How do you manage that?
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> Jean and Bode
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> Hi, Jean.  My GDF pup finds chairs, doors, entrances versus exits, 
> return to entry points in large department stores, elevators, elevator 
> buttons, traffic buttons, escalators, counters, empty chairs, men's 
> rooms, checkout registers, up/down stairs, and trash cans.  I'm not 
> sure how much of that she came with, but she had these down in the 
> first two weeks at home.  She is not great with the follow command, 
> because she likes to lead. She is an absolute genius in crowds.  She 
> is invisible in restaurants and keeps her nose out of food in grocery 
> stores, less so at home out of harness.  Onsite training in Smthtown, 
> NY, even for newbies, is only two weeks.  She is a lab golden cross.  
> Food rewards are your choice.  I use rewards randomly and for 
> outstanding responses.  She is a
> 70 pound female and a total goofball out of harness.
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> *David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL* *david at bakerinet.com
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>> On 10/31/2017 2:09 PM, Jean Menzies via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hello all,
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>> Without going into the details now, I am looking at dog retirement, 
>> and getting applications started for dog  number 7. Even if I end up 
>> delaying exceptance, the paperwork will be good for two years, and 
>> there are reasons to get going on it now.
>> 
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>> 
>> My current dog is from Leader. He is wonderful, and I really like the 
>> skill sets that LD puts on their dogs. But in deciding if I stay or 
>> change schools, I want some information on the Seing Eye as well.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For anyone who has been to either school recently, or for those who 
>> have been to both, I would like your thoughts on the following points:
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>> Food rewards used or not used
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>> If food rewards are used, are they phased out or maintained
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>> Skill sets –
>> 
>> Is Find the ... taught? If so, what objects or items are the dogs 
>> taught to find initially? E.g., empty chairs/benches, stairs up/down, 
>> pushbutton poles, doors, inside/outside, etc.?
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>> Traffic work – exposure to quiet cars
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>> Application process: Number of references, home video
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>> I'm interested in comparing the skill sets and working styles of the 
>> dogs, so please, no info on meals, rooms, etc. That's not important 
>> to me. Any info anyone can provide on current training from the two 
>> programs would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jean
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