[NAGDU] Loose Dog

[Tracy Carcione]

That's not too surprising.  They're probably thinking in terms of a loose
dog following someone, and not in terms of how much trouble that can be for
a blind person who needs their guide not to be bothered or distracted. It
requires an extra step in thinking, and most sighted people don't take that
extra step, in my experience.
Tracy



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				I'm not sure the police care. Not to be
unkind, I just don't think they do. 
I've noticed that when I used dogs, the police never cared about dog related
issues, conversely they care greatly about non dog related issues. 

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Rachel, I would have called the police and said that you were blind and you
had a dog bothering you and your guide dog and that you were stranded
because you couldn't safely work your dog because the other dog wouldn't go
away and that it was trying to mount your dog. They may have been able to
come and get the dog away from you long enough for you to continue on your
way. Plus they might have been able to find out who the dog belonged to and
have given them a ticket for having a dog off leash if that applys where you
live.

Just a thought.

Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy


-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Grider via NAGDU
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:22 PM
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Subject: [NAGDU] Loose Dog

Hi, Guys:

I hope you and your dogs are doing well.

Demi and I had a somewhat scary and annoying experience yesterday.  As we
were walking only about a block away from my house, a loose pit bull came
charging up to us.  Luckily, he wasn't aggressive, but he literally would
not leave Demi alone; he kept trying to mount her, and, though I did
everything to try and get him to leave us alone, he kept following us.  I
would shoo him away, and he would back off for a second, allowing Demi and I
to resume our progress, but then Demi would literally stop and turn around
while in harness because her little buddy would be trying to mount her
again.  No amount of correcting Demi or shooing him would get him to leave.
Demi actually gave him a couple unfriendly barks, which is something I have
never heard her do, but it didn't phase him.

We continued like this for another block before I decided that it was just
too unsafe to do it anymore, so I called animal control.
To make a long story short, a couple ladies saw me having trouble with the
dog, got a leash, and put him in their yard to wait for animal control to
pick him up.  Apparently, it took three hours for someone to come, and if it
hadn't been for these ladies, I don't know what I would have done, as the
whole episode almost made me late for work as it was, and I would not have
been able to wait that long.

So my question to you guys is: What have you done in a situation where a dog
with no owner around continually interferes with your dog's work no matter
what you do? I will also mention that I even tried giving him commands like
"sit" and "down," but he didn't seem to understand; after I had determined
that he really was friendly, I found that I could get him to chill by
petting his head, but as soon as I would stop, he would go right back to
messing with Demi.  I suppose I should have had my cane with me, which is
something I try to do anyway, but I will make a point to have one in my
backpack all the time from now on.  Even if I had been able to get away from
him, I would not have wanted to just leave him to possibly get hit by a car
or to bother other people.

Anyway, I appreciate any thoughts you may have.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Rachel

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