[NAGDU] CGC test could our dogs do it?

[Vivianna]

Hello,
Yes, you can use a chain slip collar.  and, yes, one of the tests is that the dog has to stay with a stranger for 3 minutes while the owner goes out of sight.
what i found interesting is, the AKC does not consider the dog fully trained unles it can perform tasks without treats or toys.
many many guide dogs are trained with treats and sent home with the blind person giving out treats regularly.
also, i had a friend tell me that, even on TV when they have the fancy dog shows, the handlers are going around the ring with their hands held in front of the show dog holding a treat.
i was amazed to hear that westminster dog show allows the body position to be guided by a treat.

my dog is still to young and, his attention span is to short for me to even try such a test but, give him a couple more months and, i am hoping that he would be able to ace it.
i may or may not actually take the test but, it’s a good guideline to look at.

Vivianna

> On Oct 1, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jenine Stanley via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Back in I think it was 2007, GDUI had a CGC test at its national convention. To say it was chaotic is an understatement but I think most of the teams who went through it did pass with no changes in the test that I recall. I decided not to do it with my then current dog as she had serious recall issues. My current dog could hold a stay that long, no problem. Isn’t one of the tests to go out of sight of the dog and return for either recall or just a stay? 
> 
> I think my current guy could actually do this as could my previous dog but my Lab/Poodle cross, no way. She’d have enjoyed doing laps around the testing venue then egging on her fellow canines as they tried to do their tasks. Great guide, interesting obedience. 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 5:43 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi All,
>> So, as most of you know, I am owner-training my five-and-a-half month old dog.  I was interested in perhaps getting him CGC certified just for fun.
>> While looking up the 10 tests that the dog must pass i was thinking, just how many dogs that come from schools could actually pass this test?  my answer is, unfortunately, not very many at all.
>> one of the tests is to have the dog hold either a sit or down from 20 feet away and remain there until the tester tells you to call the dog to you.
>> and, at no time during the testing is the handler allowed to use treats or toys to get the dog to perform.  Also, no training gear such as, head collars or prong collars can be used. 
>> All of my dogs except my last one could have passed this test but, my last dog could not have held the stay at all.
>> my puppy can hold the stay inside now and for a short time outside with me only about 5 feet from him.  and, he works totally without treats or toys or clickers etc.  his recall isn’t that great yet we are still on the flexy leash.
>> on the website where i was looking up the CGC  test, it states that, if the dog can not perform the tasks without treats or training gear then they do not consider him fully trained.
>> Just thought this might spark some interesting discussion.
>> 
>> Vivianna
>> coollars, prong collars 
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