[NAGDU] religious organizations and guide dogs

[Sunshine]

I happen to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-day Saints. It's the temple where it is urged that we not take our guide dogs, but not for the reasons you give. There is a lot of traffic, many people everywhere and it's less stress on the dogs being there. Personally, my dog (I'm between dogs right now.), was happier being at home. Not only that, but to get to many temples, it can take hours to and from. You're talking about a temple when many people tell me their churches will not allow their service animals. I have yet to have had that experience, but it happens. I can't speak to the reasoning of many churches. I only know I've taken my dogs to any church. Smiles!



Sunshine and 

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Weiner via NAGDU  <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: Star Gazer via NAGDU  <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:00 am
Subject: [NAGDU] religious organizations and guide dogs

>
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> I have been led to believe that the LDS church doesn't allow guide dogs 
> in their tabernacle. When I worked in Maryland a co-worker out of the 
> blue walked up to me and said "is thee some place that guide dogs can 
> stay when they can't accompany their owner"? not really knowing what the 
> reason for this was I gave a non-committal answer, it turned out one of 
> this lady's relatives wanted to go to a Mormon not sure i if it was a 
> church or meeting place or temple or what, my apologies, in Washington, 
> and they told them the guide dog wouldn't be welcome that in quotes "it 
> would disturb the peace and serenity of the ceremony" I'm quoiting, I'm 
> not trying to bash any religion. So I answered my colleague something 
> disparaging about religion in general which I won't write here, oh  
> heck,  I'll write it-lol I said that religion is suppose d to preach 
> loving thy neighbor as  your brother and that that's fine apparently 
> unless you have a guide dog. But anyway, so I believe there is a policy, 
> I'm sure other religious groups have similar strictures.
> 
> 
> Dan the man, Parker the hound dog
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/29/2017 7:23 AM, Star Gazer via NAGDU wrote:
> >				I checked Tara, and unfortunately you are
> > correct, the LDS web site does have this policy, plain as day on their web
> > site.  I am truly sorry. I was really hoping you had a dimwit usher.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara Briggs via
> > NAGDU
> > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:35 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Tara Briggs <thflute at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Forwarded Article: This able-bodied dog lover makes a
> > great case against faking service dogs
> >
> > Interesting. But can you make the argument that church meetings are open to
> > the public and the religious exemption does  apply  there. For example, even
> > though the public can walk into a church for any service. Can't the church
> > exclude say blind people if they want to? Anyway, in this case, we  had to
> > go onto the Internet and get tickets. That's what a friend of mine did and
> > she invited us to come. The tickets were free but you did  have to get them
> > in order to get a seat.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 28, 2017, at 8:23 PM, David via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> If the concert is open to the public, the church exception does not apply.
> >>
> >> ininDavid and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL*
> >> *david at bakerinet.com*
> >>> On 9/28/2017 7:53 PM, Star Gazer via NAGDU wrote:
> >>> Even when they are open to the public?
> >>> We have a meeting house (Mormon word for church building) that is open to
> > the public for elections, i.e. it is a voting poll. There is no way they
> > could or should restrict someone from going to the voting poll with a guide
> > or service dog.
> >>
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