[NAGDU] CGC test could our dogs do it?

Tue Oct 3 15:34:03 UTC 2017

Vivianna:

To answer your question, could my dog do it?  Well the honest answer is that 
she might not pass.  Eva is now four and a half years old but in her mind 
she is still a goofy golden puppy.  Many years ago with one of my previous 
dogs I was at the vet and Cinnamon was acting completely silly.  I said oh 
when will you ever grow up and the vet answered, "when she is fifteen". 
Golden retrievers just seem to remain like a puppy all their lives.  If I am 
not careful Eva will try to get attention from anyone who makes eye contact 
with her.  Also her little golden feet just can't always remain on the 
floor.  A common verbal reminder around the house if anyone comes in the 
door or in our daily travels is  "four on the floor please"  She is 
excessively friendly and just can't resist on trying to play with everyone. 
I will admit it is probably a bit of my fault.  Due to some significant 
health issues I have not been able to work her much so she has probably 
become a bit lax in her proper guide dog manners.  I looked at the website 
and I think now that I am finally beginning to feel a bit stronger I will 
begin to use that as a guideline to bring her behavior back into line.  I 
also wish I could train the public to leave this little cute cuddly golden 
alone.  I know she is cute and adorable but, she is a guide dog not a pet to 
all who see her.  Vivianna, good luck training your puppy and please keep us 
posted of your progress.  I think all of us and our dogs could benefit from 
the CGC Test for behavior.  Thanks for posting this for us.

Sandra Johnson and Eva, the goofy golden
SLJohnson25 at comcast.net

-----Original Message----- 
From: Vivianna via NAGDU
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] CGC test could our dogs do it?

Here you go.
http://www.akc.org/dog-owners/training/canine-good-citizen/training-testing/

> On Oct 2, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Ashley Coleman via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbn

> et.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Vivianna
> Can you share the link for the CGC test with the group? I am curious of 
> the parts of the test.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vivianna via 
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> Cc: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] CGC test could our dogs do it?
>
> Hello,
> Yes, you can use a chain slip collar.  and, yes, one of the tests is that 
> the dog has to stay with a stranger for 3 minutes while the owner goes out 
> of sight.
> what i found interesting is, the AKC does not consider the dog fully 
> trained unles it can perform tasks without treats or toys.
> many many guide dogs are trained with treats and sent home with the blind 
> person giving out treats regularly.
> also, i had a friend tell me that, even on TV when they have the fancy dog 
> shows, the handlers are going around the ring with their hands held in 
> front of the show dog holding a treat.
> i was amazed to hear that westminster dog show allows the body position to 
> be guided by a treat.
>
> my dog is still to young and, his attention span is to short for me to 
> even try such a test but, give him a couple more months and, i am hoping 
> that he would be able to ace it.
> i may or may not actually take the test but, itâ?Ts a good guideline to 
> look at.
>
> Vivianna
>
>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Jenine Stanley via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Back in I think it was 2007, GDUI had a CGC test at its national 
>> convention. To say it was chaotic is an understatement but I think most 
>> of the teams who went through it did pass with no changes in the test 
>> that I recall. I decided not to do it with my then current dog as she had 
>> serious recall issues. My current dog could hold a stay that long, no 
>> problem. Isnâ?Tt one of the tests to go out of sight of the dog and 
>> return for either recall or just a stay?
>>
>> I think my current guy could actually do this as could my previous dog 
>> but my Lab/Poodle cross, no way. Sheâ?Td have enjoyed doing laps around 
>> the testing venue then egging on her fellow canines as they tried to do 
>> their tasks. Great guide, interesting obedience.
>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 5:43 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> So, as most of you know, I am owner-training my five-and-a-half month 
>>> old dog.  I was interested in perhaps getting him CGC certified just for 
>>> fun.
>>> While looking up the 10 tests that the dog must pass i was thinking, 
>>> just how many dogs that come from schools could actually pass this test? 
>>> my answer is, unfortunately, not very many at all.
>>> one of the tests is to have the dog hold either a sit or down from 20 
>>> feet away and remain there until the tester tells you to call the dog to 
>>> you.
>>> and, at no time during the testing is the handler allowed to use treats 
>>> or toys to get the dog to perform.  Also, no training gear such as, head 
>>> collars or prong collars can be used.
>>> All of my dogs except my last one could have passed this test but, my 
>>> last dog could not have held the stay at all.
>>> my puppy can hold the stay inside now and for a short time outside with 
>>> me only about 5 feet from him.  and, he works totally without treats or 
>>> toys or clickers etc.  his recall isnâ?Tt that great yet we are still on 
>>> the flexy leash.
>>> on the website where i was looking up the CGC  test, it states that, if 
>>> the dog can not perform the tasks without treats or training gear then 
>>> they do not consider him fully trained.
>>> Just thought this might spark some interesting discussion.
>>>
>>> Vivianna
>>> coollars, prong collars
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