[NAGDU] Two dogs in a one-bedroom apartment

Wed Sep 13 00:49:51 UTC 2017

I am in agreement with those who say that the school is not going to care.
The dogs can learn to compensate for the space, too. I wouldn't worry over
it much.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com

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From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Miranda via NAGDU
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:11 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
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Cc: Miranda <knownoflove at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Two dogs in a one-bedroom apartment

Hi,
I do plan to apply to the same school, not as much to leverage their
knowledge of our family, but because I have seen the high caliber and
professionalism of their staff, dogs, and graduates. The reason I am a bit
hesitant about our apartment size is because I wonder if they would feel
when they come to do the evaluation that we could not practically fit two
adults, two dogs, and a cat.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and have a wonderful week!

Best wishes, Miranda

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> On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:56 PM, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
>            I'm not sure why a school would turn you down for the size 
> of your apartment, or why you think they would.
> Why not apply to the same school your husband got his dog from? I 
> suggest this because that school now knows one of you and you two will 
> have gone through the same experience together, same commands and the
like.
> It may also make follow-up easier. 
> Point being, your family is now a known quantity to your husband's 
> school, so leverage that
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy 
> Brannan via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:03 PM
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> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Two dogs in a one-bedroom apartment
> 
> Miranda,
> 
> I've never heard of someone being turned down for not living in a two 
> bedroom apartment. OK, it's a true fact that there's at least one 
> service dog school (Paws With a Cause) that won't place a service dog 
> with anyone who already has a pet (an absurd policy if you ask me, 
> which you didn't), but I've never heard of a guide dog school having 
> such a rule. I'm fairly sure you're on reasonably solid ground for 
> that. Now you might get turned down for some other reason I suppose, 
> anything could happen, but I wouldn't sweat it too much really.
> 
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Mobile (preferred): (814) 431-0962
> Phone: (814) 860-3194
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 9:59 PM, Miranda B. via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Janell,
>> Growing up with dogs and cats, I'm not as concerned with how well the 
>> dogs will get along, as much as I am about the practicality of the 
>> space in a one-bedroom apartment. Honestly, I hope that I'm not 
>> turned down for my dog because we're not in a 2+-bedroom apartment or
house.
>> I'm hoping that through evaluating and utilizing the advice received 
>> here and careful planning on our part, that I'll be able to 
>> demonstrate that I have thought of as many scenarios as practically 
>> possible prior to adding another dog guide to the family.
>> Thanks for sharing your thoughts and tips, and have a wonderful week!
>> 
>> Best wishes, Miranda
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Janell via 
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 11:28 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Janell <nellie at culodge.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Two dogs in a one-bedroom apartment
>> 
>> I have my guide and we also have a family pet lab.  They get along 
>> great and adjusted very well.  I was a bit nervous because Maggie is
>> 10 and a bit territorial but they did great right off the bat.  I 
>> only used the crate for Sully for about a month or so.  He was never 
>> using it day or night and if he needs a puppy time-out he gets a 5-10 
>> minute tie down and in my situation that works better than the crate.  
>> Both dogs have their own bed but they too will share one more often 
>> than not.  One thing I do is use stackable containers for winter 
>> stuff, extra toys, his information binder etc.  I also have a tote 
>> that fits
> under our bed.
>> 
>> Try not to stress out over having 2 dogs, I think they will get along
> great!
>> 
>> -Janell
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy 
>> VanderBrink via NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:03 AM
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>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink <vandyvanderbrink at outlook.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Two dogs in a one-bedroom apartment
>> 
>> Both my husband and I have dogs and they get along great! They are 
>> both males and clearly one of them is in charge. They actually cuddle
> together.
>> They sometimes play with each other but for the most part they kind 
>> of do their own thing. They each have their own bowl and they each 
>> have their own dog bed but sometimes they will swap. We found that 
>> having The beds in different locations seems to work better for us. 
>> Their beds are more like a pillow and so we found that they would 
>> drag them out in the middle of the floor and we would go tripping 
>> over them at 2 o'clock in the morning on the way to the bathroom. So 
>> your idea of having a crate in different locations I think is a good 
>> idea. I think you are concerned about something that really is not 
>> terribly a big concern. I am not meaning to be patronizing I am 
>> simply saying that these guys are around other dogs a lot and they 
>> spend a lot of time with other dogs sharing the same space when they 
>> are in training so I really think once they establish the pecking 
>> order of who is in charge then they will be absolutely fine. Now, 
>> when it comes to food and toys luckily we were able to put our dogs 
>> on the same food. The one dog has stomach issues and we have to avoid 
>> certain things with his food but the other dog could frankly live on 
>> just about anything and be absolutely fine so we definitely lucked 
>> out in that instance. I was told him many years ago that if you are 
>> going to switch your dog to something lamb and rice is a good formula 
>> but that was what I was told
> probably about 15 years ago so I don't know if that is true or not
anymore.
>> We have a bucket that we put our toys in just to get them off the 
>> floor and out-of-the-way. One dog thinks it is a lot of fun to pull 
>> all the toys out and scatter them everywhere so we do have another 
>> container that has a lid and I will use that sometimes.
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated 
>> using voice dictation Nancy Irwin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Miranda B. via NAGDU 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> My husband recently received his first dog guide, and I'm planning 
>>> to get mine in the next 1-2 years (hopefully during the summer of 
>>> 2018, if possible). We live in a larger 1-bedroom apartment. I 
>>> believe it's just over
>>> 900 square feet.
>>> 
>>> Our current plan is to rearrange our bedroom to make room for a 
>>> second dog crate, and we plan on taking turns with play time in the 
>>> main living space, as this works with our general schedule and 
>>> prevents over-crowding. Our other current plan is to share as many 
>>> supplies as possible. For instance, if the two dogs eat the same 
>>> food, we'll only have one Vittles Vault. We'll also share the larger 
>>> supply of pick-up bags, ETC. Of course, we won't share the dogs'
>>> gear, toys, ETC, so they'll
>> each have some items of their own.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm writing to get any tips regarding dog supply/toy storage (these 
>>> tips would help with only one dog too), or overall tips regarding 
>>> having two dogs in an apartment. We are not in a position to get a 
>>> 2-bedroom apartment, so this is not a viable option for us. If you 
>>> have any storage products you use and recommend or other helpful 
>>> advice,
>> please feel free to share.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, and have a wonderful week!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes, Miranda
>>> 
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