[NAGDU] follow command

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Thu Aug 30 14:50:51 UTC 2018


Most of my dogs have felt it was necessary to follow anyone with whom I was talking, so when they would leave I would stand there for a while until we could be sure we were oriented. Could hat be a brain problem?
Cindy Lou Ray
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] follow command

Very interesting, I did use follow extensively when I was a university student with my dog Evan, I had to work on it a bit with help from willing family  members and friends, but frankly Evan got to the point I'd just talk to a person, ask for help and he'd just follow the person I was talking with or asked for help, I did ask them to keep talking or to tell me when they turned left or right but usually they didn't, and he just got to be very good at it. It was a great


  way to maintain my safety and independent mobility while having someone help me to places I didn't necessarily know.  I frankly haven't got my dogs since to be as good as Evan was, of course people who knew me  during the Evan Era--smile  get vry disappointed if my dogs don't just instantly do as Evan did--smile.  As far as a dog following just at random, I never had much of a problem with it, I would just gently redirect the dog or whatever. It is a good skill and I think it's great if your dog can do it, though some are better than others and some just won't. Especially since I have a hearing issue, not being able to hear on the left side, it would have been impossible for me to go places with people without being guided if I didn't have a dog with a good follow. I just can't tell where people are usually--smile. As I've said though, My first two dogs , Grant and Evan, were by far the best, Carter and Parker have not been as tenacious about it. Then again I've had to go most places myself nowadays so I don't get as much practice.

Warmest regards,
Dan the man and Parker the nut
On 8/30/2018 9:30 AM, Melissa Allman via NAGDU wrote:
> Even when I do use follow, I still need the person to talk to me so that I can make sure my dog is following them in particular especially when she's following someone she really doesn't know and there are a million people around. Half the time she walks faster than the people she's supposed to be following or they are so nervous about it that they keep slowing and looking behind them and sometimes trying to make physical contact with me so I'm pretty selective about when I use it for that reason.
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> I think that following has its advantages, especially if someone has a hearing loss. When I worked as chaplain service organist at the V.A. Hospital in Topeka, KS though, I followed too much and ended up having to work Jet out of it a little. She was a good dog, and I think it was sort of a disservice to her to have her follow as much as she did. So I guess I feel like Tracy about this. It is good to have that command in our toolbox, but I like the idea of just getting the person to speak to us occasionally so I can keep track. That is what I am currently doing without a dog.
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> My dog Ben didn't like to follow much.  He figured his way was best.  I loved his initiative, so I just asked whoever we were with to say something occasionally so we could stay reasonably close.
> Krokus tends to over-follow.  He's happy to let someone else do the work, as we were discussing the other day.  Really, I'd rather have a dog who has the initiative and self-confidence not to follow.
> I've found, over my 7 dogs, that young dogs often need encouragement to develop the self-confidence to solve problems without a lot of help, and  I praise them up when they do it, so I wouldn't grumble at a dog for not following.  But that's me.
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> We did the follow command with the trainer but then when I went to the mall yesterday with my mom she was having no part of it.  Then my mom was frustrated and then Rosy was too so she kind of shut down.  I am so used to Sully who is very strong willed and confident and then Rosy is very sensitive and tender hearted so I am having an adjustment too.  Rosy is an absolute doll and I think we will work well together but we have to get accustomed to each other.
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> Thanks for any advice!  😊
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> How much do you want Rosy to follow? You could get her in the habit if you aren't careful. I did that with a dog. But you can do this by practicing.
> Get someone to help you and then tell her to follow. Then reward her in whatever way you reward her.
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> I have my new guide dog Rosy.  She is doing quite well but she just doesn't have the "follow" command down.  Any suggestions from anyone?
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