[NAGDU] Using positive reinforcement instead of punishment

[Tracy Carcione]

I usually tap it, or, if it's a branch, shake it a bit.  Being careful not
to get thorned, if it's a sticker branch.
If I really want to get the dog's attention, I command him to sit before
showing him the object.  I think, when he sits, he's looking up at me,
saying "What's next?" rather than looking ahead, down, whatever.
Tracy

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How do you draw attention to the obstacle?


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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Using positive reinforcement instead of punishment

*Hello,
Sorry to be late to the party.
I can't remember if Leader taught me to leash correct, and rework, or not.
What I currently do is the following.
1.)  Verbally correct the same time as I.
2.)  Drop the harness handle and draw attention to the obstacle then I.
3.)  Heel the pup back about ten, or twenty feet ( if practical  and safe).
4.)  Re-work the dog towards the overhead obstacle. If he stops, or veers
around the obstacle he gets heaps of verbal praise and once we're past the
obstacle we stop and some hand praise is given too.
For various reasons I don't normally carry treats, or a clicker with me
while on route.
The fact that the known presence of treats draws Harley's focus like iron
filings to a magnet, and that I only have two hands means that I stick with
a Verbal marker and verbal/hand-praise while on route.
I hope this helps.

Wayne And Harley D

k9dad at k9di.org

*On 12/18/2017 4:23 PM, Yiska via NAGDU wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am wondering about clicker training and positive reinforcement when 
> it comes to guide work. How do you get a dog to do the right task 
> after messing up. For example the dog misses an overhead obstacle.
> Normally one would leash correct and then rework. How would you rework 
> if the dog does not get it the first or fourth time? Normally you 
> would increase corrections. Also for those who clicker train do you 
> have a disapproval marker like no? I am trying to use much more 
> positive training but struggled with my last dog. From what I have 
> learned from youtube there are lots of basic tasks for clicker but not
much past that.
>
> I get my dog in January from the seeing eye and am very excited.
> Yiska
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