[NAGDU] bulkhead seating

Sat Jan 27 02:31:44 UTC 2018

He’s close to that. He doesn’t curl up very well. The only airlines I fly is Delta International, Alaska and Hawaiian. Delta international bulkhead is very spacious. A330.  Alaska is 737s and Hawaiian is 717.  The older 737s he slides under the bulkhead. 737-800s, bulkhead goes all the way to floor. That is the worst. If I fly just to America, I try and get a seat with an empty one next to mine. Then it doesn’t matter where I sit. Going to Hawaii, that never happens. 

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> On Jan 26, 2018, at 5:04 PM, NAGDU President via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Bryan,
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>    I am curious how "enormous" your pup is. My guide weighed in at 110 lbs and was 30" at the shoulders. He fit under the seat in front of me quite easily!
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] bulkhead seating
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> Jenine, an interesting phenomenon has happened in regards to "bulkhead" 
> seating. Some airlines use that as premium seating. You have to pay extra. I have experienced that Delta and now Alaska Airlines. My Guide is a enormous Golden. Now I have to pay on some flights a very high price to sit in bulkhead. Delta wanted to charge me close to 300$ for that. AK Air is charging me 75$. I never had to pay extra for bulkhead until about 6 months ago.
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> Thanks for all the advocacy you do. Keep it up please!   Bryan Gearry
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>> On 1/26/2018 3:31 AM, Jenine Stanley via NAGDU wrote:
>> Jordan,
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>> Let’s be specific here. Your big dog doesn’t or didn’t fit under a seat. I’ve had 2 larger dogs who fit just fine under most aircraft seats and my husband’s first dog was larger than mine. He curled up nicely under aircraft seats and preferred them to bulkhead. My smaller dogs spread like dirty laundry in larger spaces.
>> 
>> One thing I encourage people to do at home before flying is to encourage your dog to lie down and under your dining room chair if possible, or other seats where they can lie completely under the seat so they get the practice of going into small spaces.
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>> Sure, bits and pieces can sneak out but generally, unless there’s an equipment box under that seat, most dogs can fit.
>> 
>> Yes, the commuter jets and some larger jets have their seating configured so that the bulkhead space is much smaller, floor space-wise, than under the other seats. Once I point this out to the flight crew, they usually give up on forcing us to sit there.
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>> Just Sayin’.
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>>> On Jan 25, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Nope they do not on this issue.  If it was unsafe they would not let you do it.  Besides, a big dog will not fit under a seat anyway.  I have tried and it does not happen. No way no how.  It does not happen.
>>> Jordan
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>>> Agreed and so we need to be the ones who do it cause no one else will advocate on our behalf.
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>>>> On Jan 25, 2018, at 5:52 PM, margo Downey via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>> Yeah, I don't understand flight attendants' reasoning about the bulkhead.  It seems as though airlines personnel need further training.
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>> Johnson via NAGDU
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>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] bulkhead seating
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>>>> Last time I flew, I was offered bulkhead seating.  The flight attendant’s reasoning, and this is as close to a direct quote as I can recollect: “He’ll be more comfortable because there’s more space and he can stretch out.  Also if there’s rough air he’ll be safer because he can’t be tossed around”.
>>>> 
>>>> Hmmm...I’m still trying to sort out the logic here.  Which is it, lots of space to stretch out or safety because he’s in a small space.
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