[NAGDU] Head Collars WAS Re: active shooter training

Thu Jul 12 03:38:49 UTC 2018

I also have a pilot dog, I put the gentle leader on her to her dismay. 

There was a time when she didn’t want to wear it, I put it down, put dog in crate, then went on my day leaving her at home. 

If she didn’t wear this I wouldn’t be able to control her head at all. 

I was at an event where a lady thought it was ok for her dog to sniff mine. I had to make my dog get in control making her sit, I was told my dog was fine, I did the correction anyway  

Wishing you the best, write me off list if you wish, would like to visit on behalf of our dogs. 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 

> On Jul 11, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Bob Hicks via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tammy.  My current Pilot Dog is very curious and does not focus.  My
> previous Pilot Dog was nearly perfect when it came to heads up and focused.
> I wondered if it was because she is a lady whereas my previous guides were
> guys!  I really get tired of saying head up and pay attention.  We tried the
> Gentle Leader and Susie refused to even allow me to put it over her head.  I
> knew it was not for corrections, but I wish she was not so curious and
> friendly to everyone.  And, I mean everyone!  tia
> 
> Have a great day, 73
> 
> Bob Hicks, KC8CR
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:13 PM
> To: Bob Hicks via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Head Collars WAS Re: active shooter training
> 
> Bob,
> 
> A head collar is a collar that has a loop to go over the dog's nose, rather
> like a halter on a horse. There are various types, including the Gentle
> Leader and the Halti.
> 
> Word of warning. With a head collar, you can seriously injure your dog if
> you misuse it. You cannot correct with it, in the sense of jerking on the
> leash, without risking neck injury to the dog. You also want to have your
> dog good with loose leash, since the dog's repeated pulling on the head
> collar can result in repetitive stress injury to the neck. And so on.
> 
> There's a process to go through to teach the dog to accept the head collar,
> though some never accept it at all. Others are fine with it and tend to
> settle down when wearing it. It does give you greater control of the dog's
> head, and the rest of the dog follows the head, so there you go.
> 
> I use a Gentle Leader to communicate with my dog's nose when his curiosity
> is getting the better of him in stores and such. He's a poodle, so his nose
> is way out there on the end of his long, snaky neck, so who knows what it's
> doing out there otherwise? /lol/ I hold it so that a light twitch of my
> little finger will get his attention, usually. 
> If he's not listening, though, I take hold of his regular collar or just use
> my mean mom voice to get him back in line. I did this mostly during
> training, though I still pull it out to show him or to put on him when he
> thinks his job title is Product Inspector/Greeter. I used it more with my
> last dog, since the communication with the nose was really great feedback
> for me. This one doesn't like the swing of the leash snap when we're
> walking, though, so I only use it at need with him.
> 
> hth
> 
> Tami
> 
>> On 07/11/2018 09:33 AM, Bob Hicks via NAGDU wrote:
>> What is a "head collar"?  Any idea where they can be purchased?  
>> Thanks for the information.
>> 
>> Have a great day, 73
>> 
>> Bob Hicks, KC8CR
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle 
>> Sykora via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 11:06 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] active shooter training
>> 
>> I think the best advice I can give, is to keep your dog with you, and 
>> keep her quiet. No matter what anyone else says, I can almost 
>> guarantee that, in any active shooter situation, you will want your 
>> dog to be able to guide you should you need to escape.
>> 
>> In situations where you need to hide, simply put your dog in a down 
>> stay next to you and keep a hand on her so she can't move around.
>> 
>> The only issue I can think of coming up is the noise made from the 
>> jingling of tags. One option is to use a tag silencer. Another is to 
>> put her tags on a ring you can easily take off if necessary, or on a 
>> collar you can take off if you needed to escape (hopefully just in 
>> practice situations). I personally keep my dog's tags on a flat collar
> that he wears all the time.
>> Because he also wears a headcollar and/or correction collar when 
>> working as well, I could simply remove the flat collar with tags if
> necessary.
>> 
>> Danielle and Thai
>> 
>>> On 7/11/18, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> My desk is big enough for both Krokus and I to get under, and it's 
>>> his beloved cave.  If I had to, I'd crawl under there with him, and 
>>> put my hand on him to keep him quiet so he wouldn't scamper out to say
> Hi.
>>> What a country, where we have to practice hiding from madmen with guns.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
>>> Campbell via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:25 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] active shooter training
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> As many of you know, I work for a newspaper, and we received a memo 
>>> yesterday letting us know that we will be required to attend training 
>>> on what to do in  an active shooter situation. This is in light of 
>>> the tragedy at the Capital Gazette in Maryland.
>>> Has anyone gone through this training in a work or school situation, 
>>> and how did you handle things with your dog? My cubicle is large 
>>> enough so that my guide dog, Barbara has a bed with a tie down next 
>>> to my
>> desk.
>>> Thanks for any information.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Liz
>>> 
>>> P.S. I'm sorry that I wasn't able to come to Orlando this year, but I 
>>> definitely plan on coming to Las Vegas.
>>> --
>>> Elizabeth Campbell
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