[NAGDU] Head Collars WAS Re: active shooter training

Thu Jul 12 12:57:14 UTC 2018

Interesting, thanks for sharing.  Take care  lol

Have a great day, 73

Bob Hicks, KC8CR

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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:47 PM
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Cc: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Head Collars WAS Re: active shooter training

Bob,

/lol/ Well, for me, it's the male that is super friendly, whereas his
ladylike predecesor was more reserved. She did like to flirt from a
distance, though. Loki was born believing that every human in the world is a
good, dear friend he just hasn't seen for awhile. Convincing him he doesn't
actually have to greet every single person in range took some doing. The
shock to his system when he realized not every person wanted to be greeted
by him was really sad. He just stared off into space for about 5 minutes,
letting the grief and loss of innocence wash over him. 
Then he shrugged and went on with training, but from then on, he only
greeted people who wanted to be greeted. Which is still almost everyone. 
Once he grew up some more and with lots more repetitions of "leave it!" 
from me, he started passing people without greeting them. So I wondered why
I was suddenly living in a ghost town, since there didn't seem to be
anypeople any more. /lol/ Now that I think about it, he's pretty good these
days, now that he is all of 4. I suspect we'll be greeting people more often
than I prefer for the duration, though, but at least it will be people who
want to be greeted.

When I knew I would be getting a male this time, I did look up some stuff
about gender differences in poodles. Some of the generalizations seem true
for my two. Definitely, the female is a lot bossier, which was a good thing
in a way, since she was my first guide. Loki is more easy going and subtle
in his signals and doesn't make a big deal out of saying "I told you so"
every time I screw up. /lol/

Tami

On 07/11/2018 11:07 AM, Bob Hicks via NAGDU wrote:
> I am not really so sexist!  I have been married to the same gal for 48
years
> and with the same lady for 53 years.  Plus, she doesn't read my Nagdu
email!
> Sri Tami for the Tammy.Ha ha
> 
> Have a great day, 73
> 
> Bob Hicks, KC8CR
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:13 PM
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> Cc: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Head Collars WAS Re: active shooter training
> 
> Bob,
> 
> A head collar is a collar that has a loop to go over the dog's nose,
rather
> like a halter on a horse. There are various types, including the Gentle
> Leader and the Halti.
> 
> Word of warning. With a head collar, you can seriously injure your dog if
> you misuse it. You cannot correct with it, in the sense of jerking on the
> leash, without risking neck injury to the dog. You also want to have your
> dog good with loose leash, since the dog's repeated pulling on the head
> collar can result in repetitive stress injury to the neck. And so on.
> 
> There's a process to go through to teach the dog to accept the head
collar,
> though some never accept it at all. Others are fine with it and tend to
> settle down when wearing it. It does give you greater control of the dog's
> head, and the rest of the dog follows the head, so there you go.
> 
> I use a Gentle Leader to communicate with my dog's nose when his curiosity
> is getting the better of him in stores and such. He's a poodle, so his
nose
> is way out there on the end of his long, snaky neck, so who knows what
it's
> doing out there otherwise? /lol/ I hold it so that a light twitch of my
> little finger will get his attention, usually.
> If he's not listening, though, I take hold of his regular collar or just
use
> my mean mom voice to get him back in line. I did this mostly during
> training, though I still pull it out to show him or to put on him when he
> thinks his job title is Product Inspector/Greeter. I used it more with my
> last dog, since the communication with the nose was really great feedback
> for me. This one doesn't like the swing of the leash snap when we're
> walking, though, so I only use it at need with him.
> 
> hth
> 
> Tami
> 
> On 07/11/2018 09:33 AM, Bob Hicks via NAGDU wrote:
>> What is a "head collar"?  Any idea where they can be purchased?
>> Thanks for the information.
>>
>> Have a great day, 73
>>
>> Bob Hicks, KC8CR
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle
>> Sykora via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 11:06 AM
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>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] active shooter training
>>
>> I think the best advice I can give, is to keep your dog with you, and
>> keep her quiet. No matter what anyone else says, I can almost
>> guarantee that, in any active shooter situation, you will want your
>> dog to be able to guide you should you need to escape.
>>
>> In situations where you need to hide, simply put your dog in a down
>> stay next to you and keep a hand on her so she can't move around.
>>
>> The only issue I can think of coming up is the noise made from the
>> jingling of tags. One option is to use a tag silencer. Another is to
>> put her tags on a ring you can easily take off if necessary, or on a
>> collar you can take off if you needed to escape (hopefully just in
>> practice situations). I personally keep my dog's tags on a flat collar
> that he wears all the time.
>> Because he also wears a headcollar and/or correction collar when
>> working as well, I could simply remove the flat collar with tags if
> necessary.
>>
>> Danielle and Thai
>>
>> On 7/11/18, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> My desk is big enough for both Krokus and I to get under, and it's
>>> his beloved cave.  If I had to, I'd crawl under there with him, and
>>> put my hand on him to keep him quiet so he wouldn't scamper out to say
> Hi.
>>> What a country, where we have to practice hiding from madmen with guns.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Campbell via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:25 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] active shooter training
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> As many of you know, I work for a newspaper, and we received a memo
>>> yesterday letting us know that we will be required to attend training
>>> on what to do in  an active shooter situation. This is in light of
>>> the tragedy at the Capital Gazette in Maryland.
>>> Has anyone gone through this training in a work or school situation,
>>> and how did you handle things with your dog? My cubicle is large
>>> enough so that my guide dog, Barbara has a bed with a tie down next
>>> to my
>> desk.
>>> Thanks for any information.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Liz
>>>
>>> P.S. I'm sorry that I wasn't able to come to Orlando this year, but I
>>> definitely plan on coming to Las Vegas.
>>> --
>>> Elizabeth Campbell
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