[NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 159, Issue 2
Peter Wolf
pwolf1 at wolfskills.com
Sun Jun 3 17:33:11 UTC 2018
If it’s a safety dehydration issue, like landing from a flight and drinking isn’t voluntary, I’ll crush up a half or whole cube of freeze dried food like Primal Nuggets, into water and stir it. That’s a gobbler for sure, as much volume of fluid as you wish. Meat soup, yum! Cold water isn’t so easy to mix it, although shaking it up in a ziplock bag first works. There’s almost always a starbucks or other coffee place, where you can ask for a little hot water in the bottom of a cup. Use it to mix the food in, then fill with cold water to volume. This, we do immediately on landing, or in cases where we are in a hot or hot/humid climate where a dog might not drink but really needs to.
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> 2. Re: Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport (Tracy Carcione)
> 3. Re: Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport (Cindy Ray)
> 4. Re: Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport (Mary Metzger)
> 5. Re: Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport (nellie at culodge.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 08:17:21 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] You can lead a dog to water ...
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> Thanks for all the responses.
> Ann, I did try bringing some water from home, but he didn't want it. I
> could put in an ice cube, but he thinks of those as treats, snaps them out,
> then drops them on the floor for better nibbling. In short, he tends to
> make a bit of a mess. Though there are paper towels, so I could clean it
> up.
> Maybe it's the atmosphere of the new building, being drier or damper. Maybe
> it's the different route, though it's not very different.
> But he doesn't actually seem to be thirsty; he's just not interested. I
> guess I'll just take a deep breath, offer him water, and not worry if he
> doesn't want it. Or try the ice cube. Silly beast.
> Tracy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ann Edie via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 12:11 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Ann Edie
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] You can lead a dog to water ...
>
> Hi, Tracy,
>
> Have you tried bringing a bottle of water from home and seeing if Krokus
> will drink that? If so, then he might be telling you that he doesn't like
> the taste of the water in your new office building. If he won't drink the
> water brought from home, then perhaps some other condition at the new place
> or the trip to work has made him less thirsty than the previous routine.
>
> If you're worried about him becoming dehydrated, you could try making the
> water at the new building more interesting, such as by adding an ice cube to
> it or by adding a little broth.
>
> Hope you solve the puzzle.
>
> Ann
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 7:42 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: [NAGDU] You can lead a dog to water ...
>
> I can still hear my instructor in my first class telling me "You can lead
> a dog to water, but you cannot make her drink." But still ...
> I recently moved to a new office building. In my old place, Krokus would
> get a big drink when we came in to work, then nothing for the rest of the
> day. In the new building, he doesn't want any water all day long, and I
> keep trying to figure out why. I've tried giving him water in the kitchen
> or the bathroom. I tried giving him the cold water from the water cooler.
> He didn't want any of it.
> The only difference I can think of is the water in the old place smelled
> more chloriny.
> I know, he's a free creature and he doesn't have to drink if he doesn't
> want to. But he used to want to, so I'm trying to figure out why not now.
> I keep imagining he's actually thirsty, but something just isn't right.
> Any ideas? Or shall I just take a chill pill and stop worrying about it?
> Tracy
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 09:12:03 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog
> Giving Birth at Airport
> Message-ID: <011701d3f9aa$220a1900$661e4b00$@access.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> To be fair, it did sound like it was a legit service dog having puppies.
> The article said the owner had mobility problems. To me, sounds like all
> she's guilty of is poor judgment, a crime I've committed myself.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherrill O'Brien
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 3:08 PM
> To: Nagdu; flagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Sherrill O'Brien
> Subject: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> A follow-up article to the story of the Tampa airport puppies!
>
>
>
> Sherrill
>
>
>
> Organization raises questions about service dog giving birth at TIA
>
> By:
>
> Chip Osowski
>
> cosowski at wfla
>
>
>
> Updated: May 30, 2018 09:20 AM EDT
>
>
>
> PALMETTO, Fla. (WFLA) - When Suzy Wilburn heard about the story of a
>
> service dog giving birth to a litter of puppies at Tampa International
> Airport
>
> on Friday, her first reaction wasn't, "Isn't that cute." The news made her
> upset and angry.
>
>
>
> "I was a tad bit angry because in the state of Florida it's a second-degree
> misdemeanor to represent your pet as a service dog," said Wilburn. "And they
>
> did that twice - with the male dog and the female dog. It's a crime."
>
>
>
> Wilburn works with Southeastern Guide Dogs in Manatee County, an
> organization that has been breeding and training dogs for the sole purpose
> of being service
>
> animals for 35 years. It's a passion they don't take lightly.
>
>
>
> The facility can be described as a campus. There is a hospital where the
> puppies are born. They live for a period of time with their mother and then
> it's
>
> off to school. They begin at the puppy academy, move on to boarding school
> and then it's on to the university.
>
>
>
> Once they finish there, they pursue a major. Those curriculums include guide
> dog major, service dog major, facility therapy dog major and genetics and
>
> reproduction major.
>
>
>
> Wilburn says the environment is highly controlled and all dogs are spayed or
> neutered before they are given to their new life companions. She says one
>
> of their dogs would never be put in a position to give birth in an
> environment such as an airport.
>
>
>
> "The fire department was called in. You took emergency services away for
> something they should've never had to deal with," said Wilburn. "And yes
> puppies
>
> are cute, but had something gone horribly wrong, those puppies lives were in
> danger and so was mom's. "
>
>
>
> Wilburn grew up playing sports and was a very active individual until she
> received news from a physician that would change her life: She was losing
> her
>
> eyesight. A short time later, she lost her mother, who was her best friend.
> She thought her life was over.
>
>
>
> But things were about to look up. Soon after the loss of her mom, she met
> her husband-to-be and then linked up with Southeastern Guide Dogs.
>
>
>
> That's where she was finally united with Carson. She's been with him for
> seven years now and credits him, at least in part, with getting her back on
> track.
>
>
>
> "I am just a different person. I love to talk about my vision loss because I
> hid it for so long," said Wilburn. "I didn't want anyone to know something
>
> was wrong with me."
>
>
>
> She, and others at Southeastern Guide Dogs, are concerned with the story at
> Tampa International.
>
>
>
> On Friday, news broke that Diane Van Atter was at the airport with her
> service dog Ellie when the dog went into labor. Ellie delivered healthy
> puppies
>
> and, on the surface, it seemed like a shiny happy story.
>
>
>
> But Wilburn wonders who would take a service dog that pregnant and board a
> flight.
>
>
>
> News Channel 8 attempted to reach Van Atter for her take on this story, but
> have yet to receive a response.
>
>
>
> For more information on Southeastern Guide Dogs, you can
>
> visit their website.
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 11:15:47 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog
> Giving Birth at Airport
> Message-ID: <00a901d3f9c3$cd955050$68bff0f0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I agree with you on the airport birthing event of dogs, but it just takes
> the dog problems to a whole new level. I had a friend who did not realize
> her cat was going to have kittens when it had them. She knew it was, but
> they were off about five or six days. I just wonder if you are in this
> situation how long a dog should be able to work during the pregnancy. People
> now work up to the day. I am mostly concerned about public image in general.
> It is a little disturbing to me to have this angle on service animals. If
> they just told the story about these dogs having pups in the airport and
> left all the service animal stuff out, it wouldn't have been so bad, but
> they made a bit of a deal about that. This does always happen regarding
> service animals anyway. I think it is quite the story without the service
> animal angle.
> Cindy Lou
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 8:12 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> To be fair, it did sound like it was a legit service dog having puppies.
> The article said the owner had mobility problems. To me, sounds like all
> she's guilty of is poor judgment, a crime I've committed myself.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherrill O'Brien
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 3:08 PM
> To: Nagdu; flagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Sherrill O'Brien
> Subject: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> A follow-up article to the story of the Tampa airport puppies!
>
>
>
> Sherrill
>
>
>
> Organization raises questions about service dog giving birth at TIA
>
> By:
>
> Chip Osowski
>
> cosowski at wfla
>
>
>
> Updated: May 30, 2018 09:20 AM EDT
>
>
>
> PALMETTO, Fla. (WFLA) - When Suzy Wilburn heard about the story of a
>
> service dog giving birth to a litter of puppies at Tampa International
> Airport
>
> on Friday, her first reaction wasn't, "Isn't that cute." The news made her
> upset and angry.
>
>
>
> "I was a tad bit angry because in the state of Florida it's a second-degree
> misdemeanor to represent your pet as a service dog," said Wilburn. "And they
>
> did that twice - with the male dog and the female dog. It's a crime."
>
>
>
> Wilburn works with Southeastern Guide Dogs in Manatee County, an
> organization that has been breeding and training dogs for the sole purpose
> of being service
>
> animals for 35 years. It's a passion they don't take lightly.
>
>
>
> The facility can be described as a campus. There is a hospital where the
> puppies are born. They live for a period of time with their mother and then
> it's
>
> off to school. They begin at the puppy academy, move on to boarding school
> and then it's on to the university.
>
>
>
> Once they finish there, they pursue a major. Those curriculums include guide
> dog major, service dog major, facility therapy dog major and genetics and
>
> reproduction major.
>
>
>
> Wilburn says the environment is highly controlled and all dogs are spayed or
> neutered before they are given to their new life companions. She says one
>
> of their dogs would never be put in a position to give birth in an
> environment such as an airport.
>
>
>
> "The fire department was called in. You took emergency services away for
> something they should've never had to deal with," said Wilburn. "And yes
> puppies
>
> are cute, but had something gone horribly wrong, those puppies lives were in
> danger and so was mom's. "
>
>
>
> Wilburn grew up playing sports and was a very active individual until she
> received news from a physician that would change her life: She was losing
> her
>
> eyesight. A short time later, she lost her mother, who was her best friend.
> She thought her life was over.
>
>
>
> But things were about to look up. Soon after the loss of her mom, she met
> her husband-to-be and then linked up with Southeastern Guide Dogs.
>
>
>
> That's where she was finally united with Carson. She's been with him for
> seven years now and credits him, at least in part, with getting her back on
> track.
>
>
>
> "I am just a different person. I love to talk about my vision loss because I
> hid it for so long," said Wilburn. "I didn't want anyone to know something
>
> was wrong with me."
>
>
>
> She, and others at Southeastern Guide Dogs, are concerned with the story at
> Tampa International.
>
>
>
> On Friday, news broke that Diane Van Atter was at the airport with her
> service dog Ellie when the dog went into labor. Ellie delivered healthy
> puppies
>
> and, on the surface, it seemed like a shiny happy story.
>
>
>
> But Wilburn wonders who would take a service dog that pregnant and board a
> flight.
>
>
>
> News Channel 8 attempted to reach Van Atter for her take on this story, but
> have yet to receive a response.
>
>
>
> For more information on Southeastern Guide Dogs, you can
>
> visit their website.
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 12:31:45 -0400
> From: "Mary Metzger" <mmetzger1 at nycap.rr.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog
> Giving Birth at Airport
> Message-ID: <000301d3f9c6$0b1a4c30$214ee490$@nycap.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I am not convinced that these dogs are legitimate service animals. The
> owner did not mention a specific disability, describe what tasks the dogs
> perform or indicate that the animals had been trained. Unless I missed a
> post, the owner also did not respond to the questions raised by the
> Southeastern staff member.
>
> Mary Beth Metzger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 12:16 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> I agree with you on the airport birthing event of dogs, but it just takes
> the dog problems to a whole new level. I had a friend who did not realize
> her cat was going to have kittens when it had them. She knew it was, but
> they were off about five or six days. I just wonder if you are in this
> situation how long a dog should be able to work during the pregnancy. People
> now work up to the day. I am mostly concerned about public image in general.
> It is a little disturbing to me to have this angle on service animals. If
> they just told the story about these dogs having pups in the airport and
> left all the service animal stuff out, it wouldn't have been so bad, but
> they made a bit of a deal about that. This does always happen regarding
> service animals anyway. I think it is quite the story without the service
> animal angle.
> Cindy Lou
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 8:12 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> To be fair, it did sound like it was a legit service dog having puppies.
> The article said the owner had mobility problems. To me, sounds like all
> she's guilty of is poor judgment, a crime I've committed myself.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherrill O'Brien
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 3:08 PM
> To: Nagdu; flagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Sherrill O'Brien
> Subject: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> A follow-up article to the story of the Tampa airport puppies!
>
>
>
> Sherrill
>
>
>
> Organization raises questions about service dog giving birth at TIA
>
> By:
>
> Chip Osowski
>
> cosowski at wfla
>
>
>
> Updated: May 30, 2018 09:20 AM EDT
>
>
>
> PALMETTO, Fla. (WFLA) - When Suzy Wilburn heard about the story of a
>
> service dog giving birth to a litter of puppies at Tampa International
> Airport
>
> on Friday, her first reaction wasn't, "Isn't that cute." The news made her
> upset and angry.
>
>
>
> "I was a tad bit angry because in the state of Florida it's a second-degree
> misdemeanor to represent your pet as a service dog," said Wilburn. "And they
>
> did that twice - with the male dog and the female dog. It's a crime."
>
>
>
> Wilburn works with Southeastern Guide Dogs in Manatee County, an
> organization that has been breeding and training dogs for the sole purpose
> of being service
>
> animals for 35 years. It's a passion they don't take lightly.
>
>
>
> The facility can be described as a campus. There is a hospital where the
> puppies are born. They live for a period of time with their mother and then
> it's
>
> off to school. They begin at the puppy academy, move on to boarding school
> and then it's on to the university.
>
>
>
> Once they finish there, they pursue a major. Those curriculums include guide
> dog major, service dog major, facility therapy dog major and genetics and
>
> reproduction major.
>
>
>
> Wilburn says the environment is highly controlled and all dogs are spayed or
> neutered before they are given to their new life companions. She says one
>
> of their dogs would never be put in a position to give birth in an
> environment such as an airport.
>
>
>
> "The fire department was called in. You took emergency services away for
> something they should've never had to deal with," said Wilburn. "And yes
> puppies
>
> are cute, but had something gone horribly wrong, those puppies lives were in
> danger and so was mom's. "
>
>
>
> Wilburn grew up playing sports and was a very active individual until she
> received news from a physician that would change her life: She was losing
> her
>
> eyesight. A short time later, she lost her mother, who was her best friend.
> She thought her life was over.
>
>
>
> But things were about to look up. Soon after the loss of her mom, she met
> her husband-to-be and then linked up with Southeastern Guide Dogs.
>
>
>
> That's where she was finally united with Carson. She's been with him for
> seven years now and credits him, at least in part, with getting her back on
> track.
>
>
>
> "I am just a different person. I love to talk about my vision loss because I
> hid it for so long," said Wilburn. "I didn't want anyone to know something
>
> was wrong with me."
>
>
>
> She, and others at Southeastern Guide Dogs, are concerned with the story at
> Tampa International.
>
>
>
> On Friday, news broke that Diane Van Atter was at the airport with her
> service dog Ellie when the dog went into labor. Ellie delivered healthy
> puppies
>
> and, on the surface, it seemed like a shiny happy story.
>
>
>
> But Wilburn wonders who would take a service dog that pregnant and board a
> flight.
>
>
>
> News Channel 8 attempted to reach Van Atter for her take on this story, but
> have yet to receive a response.
>
>
>
> For more information on Southeastern Guide Dogs, you can
>
> visit their website.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 11:38:48 -0500
> From: <nellie at culodge.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog
> Giving Birth at Airport
> Message-ID: <000101d3f9c7$042c0c00$0c842400$@culodge.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I would agree with your point. Service dog or not, why on earth would
> anyone take a pregnant dog that far along on a plane flight? Pregnant women
> can't fly at that stage of their pregnancy so why would you put a dog
> through it?
>
> Also, in my opinion I don't think any working service dog should have a
> litter of puppies. There would be weeks of not working not to mention the
> possibility of something going wrong with mom. Just doesn't seem like
> something a responsible service dog owner would put their dog through.
>
> -Janell
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary Metzger via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 11:32 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mary Metzger <mmetzger1 at nycap.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> I am not convinced that these dogs are legitimate service animals. The
> owner did not mention a specific disability, describe what tasks the dogs
> perform or indicate that the animals had been trained. Unless I missed a
> post, the owner also did not respond to the questions raised by the
> Southeastern staff member.
>
> Mary Beth Metzger
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 12:16 PM
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> Cc: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> I agree with you on the airport birthing event of dogs, but it just takes
> the dog problems to a whole new level. I had a friend who did not realize
> her cat was going to have kittens when it had them. She knew it was, but
> they were off about five or six days. I just wonder if you are in this
> situation how long a dog should be able to work during the pregnancy. People
> now work up to the day. I am mostly concerned about public image in general.
> It is a little disturbing to me to have this angle on service animals. If
> they just told the story about these dogs having pups in the airport and
> left all the service animal stuff out, it wouldn't have been so bad, but
> they made a bit of a deal about that. This does always happen regarding
> service animals anyway. I think it is quite the story without the service
> animal angle.
> Cindy Lou
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2018 8:12 AM
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> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> To be fair, it did sound like it was a legit service dog having puppies.
> The article said the owner had mobility problems. To me, sounds like all
> she's guilty of is poor judgment, a crime I've committed myself.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherrill O'Brien
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 3:08 PM
> To: Nagdu; flagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Sherrill O'Brien
> Subject: [NAGDU] Organization Raises Questions about Service Dog Giving
> Birth at Airport
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> A follow-up article to the story of the Tampa airport puppies!
>
>
>
> Sherrill
>
>
>
> Organization raises questions about service dog giving birth at TIA
>
> By:
>
> Chip Osowski
>
> cosowski at wfla
>
>
>
> Updated: May 30, 2018 09:20 AM EDT
>
>
>
> PALMETTO, Fla. (WFLA) - When Suzy Wilburn heard about the story of a
>
> service dog giving birth to a litter of puppies at Tampa International
> Airport
>
> on Friday, her first reaction wasn't, "Isn't that cute." The news made her
> upset and angry.
>
>
>
> "I was a tad bit angry because in the state of Florida it's a second-degree
> misdemeanor to represent your pet as a service dog," said Wilburn. "And they
>
> did that twice - with the male dog and the female dog. It's a crime."
>
>
>
> Wilburn works with Southeastern Guide Dogs in Manatee County, an
> organization that has been breeding and training dogs for the sole purpose
> of being service
>
> animals for 35 years. It's a passion they don't take lightly.
>
>
>
> The facility can be described as a campus. There is a hospital where the
> puppies are born. They live for a period of time with their mother and then
> it's
>
> off to school. They begin at the puppy academy, move on to boarding school
> and then it's on to the university.
>
>
>
> Once they finish there, they pursue a major. Those curriculums include guide
> dog major, service dog major, facility therapy dog major and genetics and
>
> reproduction major.
>
>
>
> Wilburn says the environment is highly controlled and all dogs are spayed or
> neutered before they are given to their new life companions. She says one
>
> of their dogs would never be put in a position to give birth in an
> environment such as an airport.
>
>
>
> "The fire department was called in. You took emergency services away for
> something they should've never had to deal with," said Wilburn. "And yes
> puppies
>
> are cute, but had something gone horribly wrong, those puppies lives were in
> danger and so was mom's. "
>
>
>
> Wilburn grew up playing sports and was a very active individual until she
> received news from a physician that would change her life: She was losing
> her
>
> eyesight. A short time later, she lost her mother, who was her best friend.
> She thought her life was over.
>
>
>
> But things were about to look up. Soon after the loss of her mom, she met
> her husband-to-be and then linked up with Southeastern Guide Dogs.
>
>
>
> That's where she was finally united with Carson. She's been with him for
> seven years now and credits him, at least in part, with getting her back on
> track.
>
>
>
> "I am just a different person. I love to talk about my vision loss because I
> hid it for so long," said Wilburn. "I didn't want anyone to know something
>
> was wrong with me."
>
>
>
> She, and others at Southeastern Guide Dogs, are concerned with the story at
> Tampa International.
>
>
>
> On Friday, news broke that Diane Van Atter was at the airport with her
> service dog Ellie when the dog went into labor. Ellie delivered healthy
> puppies
>
> and, on the surface, it seemed like a shiny happy story.
>
>
>
> But Wilburn wonders who would take a service dog that pregnant and board a
> flight.
>
>
>
> News Channel 8 attempted to reach Van Atter for her take on this story, but
> have yet to receive a response.
>
>
>
> For more information on Southeastern Guide Dogs, you can
>
> visit their website.
>
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