[NAGDU] Retired dog alone or not alone...

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi Peter. I agree with yrmessage. Zeb will be retiring this summer and he will live with one of my coworkers who has 3 kidsand the husband stays home working each day so I don't think Zeb will; alone much. I will; returning to GDB for my successor guide in October or sometime before.   

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilniski at gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On May 21, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Tara Briggs via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Peter I thought that was so well said! My recently retired guide is with a family who has a black lab that she absolutely loves spending time with. The dog is an older dog like her she is and they really enjoy each other!


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> On May 21, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Peter Wolf via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dogs regardless of situation or work are pack animals.  They need people, or each other.  It wasn’t until my late 50’s after a life of having dogs (but Metukah is my first working dog), to understand how important company is to dogs.  We have two as many of you have read.  Now experiencing having dogs who are members of family (the two), where if the occasion is right that I’d go out just by cane, we believe it is actually cruel to leave a dog alone for anything but a brief period.  And in the case of a working dog, what we have done is actually to create the opposite situation of where a normal dog owner (as a non-working dog, a pet) would spend significant time training their dog not to have separation anxiety.  Our bond through teaming with our dogs is the opposite of that.  So I suggest that if retiring a dog, no matter what the timing or situation, please make sure that he or she will be in good company - whether human or canine.  Company in any form is essential.  It’s been their whole life.  
> 
> My best,
> Peter
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>> 1. Help support the Texas Association of guide dog users through
>>    Schwan?s (Raul Gallegos)
>> 2. retiring guides (Nancy VanderBrink)
>> 3. Re: retiring guides (deafblindhope at gmail.com)
>> 4. Re: retiring guides (Tracy Carcione)
>> 5. Re: retiring guides (Nancy VanderBrink)
>> 6. Re: retiring guides (Tracy Carcione)
>> 7. Re: retiring guides (Sandra Johnson)
>> 8. Re: retiring guides (Sandra Johnson)
>> 9. Re: retiring guides (Cindy Ray)
>> 10. Re: retiring guides (Sandra Johnson)
>> 11. Re: Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>>    animals (Ann Edie)
>> 12. Re: Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>>    animals (Cindy Ray)
>> 13. Re: retiring guides (Charlene Ota)
>> 14. Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane scuffle in
>>    Orlando (Ginger Kutsch)
>> 15. Re: Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>>    animals (Tracy Carcione)
>> 16. Re: Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane
>>    scuffle in Orlando (Cindy Ray)
>> 17. Re: [Blindtlk] DOT Releases Interim Enforcement Priorities
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>> 22. Re: Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
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>> 23. Re: Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane
>>    scuffle in Orlando (NAGDU President)
>> 24. Re: Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane
>>    scuffle in Orlando (Jessica Dail)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 07:28:49 -0500
>> From: Raul Gallegos <raul at raulgallegos.com>
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>> Subject: [NAGDU] Help support the Texas Association of guide dog users
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>> Good morning everyone, I would like to share the following Facebook link which gives some information about the campaign through Schwan?s to help support the Texas Association of guide dog users. Just in case not everyone has Facebook, basically, if you order from Schwan?s and use the campaign number 37423, A portion of your order amount will be donated to the Texas Association of guide dog users. Stacie and I have a new favorite. It is catalogue number 50 which is the peanut butter ice cream bites. The link to the NAGDU Facebook post is below.
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>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/124908860968667/permalink/1536021083190764/
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 14:41:57 +0000
>> From: Nancy VanderBrink <vandyvanderbrink at outlook.com>
>> To: "nagdu at nfbnet.org" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] retiring guides
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>> Hi folks,
>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going in November. 
>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my current guide, Doc.
>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>> How did they handle the transition?
>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked? 
>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all? 
>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited. 
>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because have had medical issues.
>> Many thanks,
>> nancy 
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation
>> Nancy Irwin
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 10:56:31 -0400
>> From: deafblindhope at gmail.com
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
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>> I kept Joey, the one you knew, and it was fine. Yes, there was a transition, but he would have been heartbroken if I gave him away. We took him with us ?working? in a lot of places for a long time. People here knew and loved him, so they wanted him there. I made sure I loved on him and my new guide. Of course, my husband didn?t have a dog, so we only had the two. My husband is autistic, so he actually needs a dog, so Joey helped him a lot. Since Joey?s death, Nala has actually taken up specific tasks to calm my husband when he has problems. She still guides me fine, and alerts me to know that Scott needs help. We are a team. Anyway, I know and understand that some have no choice but to re-home their guides, but I don?t have that problem now. I know many have said giving their dogs up worked out fine, but all have said their guide suffered from some grief and depression. I want to limit that as long as I can by keeping my former guides in the pack. I just work hard to help them know they are still loved, wanted, and needed. 
>> 
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>> 
>> In The Shadow of Christ, Master Teacher,
>> Ren?e K. Walker
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>>> On May 18, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going in November. 
>>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my current guide, Doc.
>>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>>> How did they handle the transition?
>>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked? 
>>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all? 
>>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited. 
>>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because have had medical issues.
>>> Many thanks,
>>> nancy 
>>> 
>>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation
>>> Nancy Irwin
>>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:29:12 -0400
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
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>> 
>> Hi Nancy.
>> I have kept 2 retired guides in good health, and one with a terminal illness.
>> The 2 I kept long-term adjusted fine to retirement.  My husband and I often telecommute, so one or the other of us was almost always at home.  My husband took the retired dog for walks with his cane.  I think the dogs enjoyed taking a walk where they could sniff, and could greet anyone they wanted to.
>> I had the distinct impression my dog Ben would chuckle to himself on cold, rainy days when the new guy had to go off to work, while Ben settled down for a nice, cozy nap.
>> 
>> Someone once pointed out to me that guide dogs are used to being with people.  They've been with people pretty much since the day they were born, so they might not be happy left alone for hours on a regular basis.  But we've been able to arrange for the retired dog to have company most of the time, so it's been fine.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:42 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
>> Subject: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going in November. 
>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my current guide, Doc.
>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>> How did they handle the transition?
>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked? 
>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all? 
>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited. 
>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because have had medical issues.
>> Many thanks,
>> nancy 
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation
>> Nancy Irwin
>> 
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 15:33:49 +0000
>> From: Nancy VanderBrink <vandyvanderbrink at outlook.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
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>> So leaving both boys home together.  Will that help or should they be with people?
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation
>> Nancy Irwin
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Nancy.
>>> I have kept 2 retired guides in good health, and one with a terminal illness.
>>> The 2 I kept long-term adjusted fine to retirement.  My husband and I often telecommute, so one or the other of us was almost always at home.  My husband took the retired dog for walks with his cane.  I think the dogs enjoyed taking a walk where they could sniff, and could greet anyone they wanted to.
>>> I had the distinct impression my dog Ben would chuckle to himself on cold, rainy days when the new guy had to go off to work, while Ben settled down for a nice, cozy nap.
>>> 
>>> Someone once pointed out to me that guide dogs are used to being with people.  They've been with people pretty much since the day they were born, so they might not be happy left alone for hours on a regular basis.  But we've been able to arrange for the retired dog to have company most of the time, so it's been fine.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:42 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going in November. 
>>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my current guide, Doc.
>>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>>> How did they handle the transition?
>>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked? 
>>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all? 
>>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited. 
>>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because have had medical issues.
>>> Many thanks,
>>> nancy 
>>> 
>>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation
>>> Nancy Irwin
>>> 
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:37:19 -0400
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
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>> 
>> I don't know.  Do they enjoy hanging out together?
>> My 2 did not really care about dogs; they were people-oriented.
>> My current dog loves other dogs, and might be fine with another dog for company (though of course human is best).
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:34 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink; Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> So leaving both boys home together.  Will that help or should they be with people?
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation
>> Nancy Irwin
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Nancy.
>>> I have kept 2 retired guides in good health, and one with a terminal illness.
>>> The 2 I kept long-term adjusted fine to retirement.  My husband and I often telecommute, so one or the other of us was almost always at home.  My husband took the retired dog for walks with his cane.  I think the dogs enjoyed taking a walk where they could sniff, and could greet anyone they wanted to.
>>> I had the distinct impression my dog Ben would chuckle to himself on cold, rainy days when the new guy had to go off to work, while Ben settled down for a nice, cozy nap.
>>> 
>>> Someone once pointed out to me that guide dogs are used to being with people.  They've been with people pretty much since the day they were born, so they might not be happy left alone for hours on a regular basis.  But we've been able to arrange for the retired dog to have company most of the time, so it's been fine.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:42 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going in November. 
>>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my current guide, Doc.
>>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>>> How did they handle the transition?
>>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked? 
>>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all? 
>>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited. 
>>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because have had medical issues.
>>> Many thanks,
>>> nancy 
>>> 
>>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation
>>> Nancy Irwin
>>> 
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:37:05 -0400
>> From: "Sandra Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> Message-ID: <55E14308C3E243AAA9EFA754CEB52DD1 at JOHNSON>
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>> Nancy:
>> 
>> I have retired several dogs in the past 43 years.  Some went back to the 
>> school because I could not find them a home.  Three of my guides retired to 
>> a very dear friend who took such good care of them that they lived until age 
>> 15.  Four years ago I retired my golden Tara who was 8 years old because she 
>> had advanced hip dysplasia and cataracts.  I kept Tara when I got Eva a 14 
>> month old golden.  Tara seemed overwhelmed by the very energetic pup 
>> especially when Eva would try to run and jump in the attempt to get Tara to 
>> play.  I noticed that Tara got very depressed when I paid attention to Eva. 
>> She became anxious when   I had to leave her home alone.  I could not take 
>> Tara for short walks because of her diminished vision.  I taught her to heel 
>> on my right side as Eva did the guiding.  Tara seemed to enjoy those walks 
>> and Eva was very willing to go at Tara's much slower pace.  The problem came 
>> as Tara got more and more depressed.  She stopped playing and at times would 
>> not eat As we all know this is not usually a problem for a golden retriever. 
>> Tara had always been very eager to eat.  Finally in consultation with my vet 
>> I made the very difficult decision to find Tara a new home where she was the 
>> only dog.  Fortunately a wonderful elderly lady from my parents church had 
>> just lost her dog and was longing to find another older dog to adopt.  Lucy 
>> had met Tara several times when I attended church with my parents.  She 
>> immediately said she would gladly adopt Tara.  The two of them fell in love 
>> the minute they met.  My other concern during this time was my ability to 
>> afford Tara's very expensive daily anti-inflammatory meds and joint 
>> supplements as well as her monthly injections and laser treatments for her 
>> hips.  I was no longer able to work so had to consider if I could 
>> financially pay for the care Tara needed.  I had already maxed out my credit 
>> card paying for her vet bills.  Fortunately Lucy was financially able to 
>> take on this responsibility.  Tara will celebrate her 12th birthday in a few 
>> weeks.  She is doing well and she can still see good enough to get along in 
>> the house.  It broke my heart to send all my retired guides to their new 
>> homes but it was what had to be done.  I have always rented and most 
>> landlords will not permit more than one dog.
>> 
>> So, after telling you my story I give you a few things to think about.  Can 
>> you afford to take care of more than the two guide dogs considering food and 
>> vet bills?  Do you have the ability to have someone available to take them 
>> out if you have to leave them for a long time?  Do you think the retired 
>> dogs will tolerate the younger more energetic playful dogs?  If you live in 
>> rental housing will they allow you to have four dogs?  Whatever choice you 
>> make retirement is always difficult.  Good luck as you and your husband 
>> train with your new dogs.
>> 
>> Sandra Johnson
>> SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:41 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
>> Subject: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going 
>> in November.
>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my 
>> current guide, Doc.
>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone 
>> but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>> How did they handle the transition?
>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked?
>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all?
>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited.
>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my 
>> guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because 
>> have had medical issues.
>> Many thanks,
>> nancy
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using 
>> voice dictation
>> Nancy Irwin
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:54:32 -0400
>> From: "Sandra Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> Message-ID: <48DC1DCB647F491A8586E289F040FDF6 at JOHNSON>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
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>> 
>> Tracy:
>> 
>> I know that Tara got very depressed when left alone.  I am glad you had your 
>> husband and other people to help you.  If I had folks to help I would 
>> probably have been able to keep Tara with me.  So, it is important to think 
>> of what family and friends you will have when it is needed.
>> 
>> Sandra
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:29 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Hi Nancy.
>> I have kept 2 retired guides in good health, and one with a terminal 
>> illness.
>> The 2 I kept long-term adjusted fine to retirement.  My husband and I often 
>> telecommute, so one or the other of us was almost always at home.  My 
>> husband took the retired dog for walks with his cane.  I think the dogs 
>> enjoyed taking a walk where they could sniff, and could greet anyone they 
>> wanted to.
>> I had the distinct impression my dog Ben would chuckle to himself on cold, 
>> rainy days when the new guy had to go off to work, while Ben settled down 
>> for a nice, cozy nap.
>> 
>> Someone once pointed out to me that guide dogs are used to being with 
>> people.  They've been with people pretty much since the day they were born, 
>> so they might not be happy left alone for hours on a regular basis.  But 
>> we've been able to arrange for the retired dog to have company most of the 
>> time, so it's been fine.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink 
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:42 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
>> Subject: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going 
>> in November.
>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my 
>> current guide, Doc.
>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone 
>> but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>> How did they handle the transition?
>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked?
>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all?
>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited.
>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my 
>> guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because 
>> have had medical issues.
>> Many thanks,
>> nancy
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using 
>> voice dictation
>> Nancy Irwin
>> 
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>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:05:01 -0500
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> Message-ID: <87710B94-455F-4333-A420-889D69EAD5B8 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>> 
>> I have never kept a guide. I tried it once and it seemed too hard on her. She still wanted to work but couldn?t. My husband had kept his though. The second one I did not keep, but Fisher I have. I haven?t applied for a dog yet and am not yet sure what I will do. I think it all depends on your circumstances at the time.
>> Cindyray at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> Cindy Lou
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going in November. 
>>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my current guide, Doc.
>>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>>> How did they handle the transition?
>>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked? 
>>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all? 
>>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited. 
>>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because have had medical issues.
>>> Many thanks,
>>> nancy 
>>> 
>>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation
>>> Nancy Irwin
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 12:02:17 -0400
>> From: "Sandra Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> Message-ID: <217DF5A7EAB94089A82DF8E063843BC4 at JOHNSON>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
>>   reply-type=original
>> 
>> Tracy:
>> 
>> I know that Tara got very depressed when left alone.  She is not really all 
>> that interested in other dogs.  As a result of frequent attacks when I first 
>> got home with her she is somewhat afraid of interacting with other dogs. 
>> She craved the love and attention from people.  That is why I insisted on 
>> finding her a home where she was the only dog.  It is important to know your 
>> dogs personality and what they would find most comforting in their retired 
>> life.  I am glad you had your husband and other people to help you.  If I 
>> had folks to help I would
>> probably have been able to keep Tara with me.  So, it is important to think
>> of what family and friends you will have when it is needed.
>> 
>> Sandra
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:29 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Hi Nancy.
>> I have kept 2 retired guides in good health, and one with a terminal
>> illness.
>> The 2 I kept long-term adjusted fine to retirement.  My husband and I often
>> telecommute, so one or the other of us was almost always at home.  My
>> husband took the retired dog for walks with his cane.  I think the dogs
>> enjoyed taking a walk where they could sniff, and could greet anyone they
>> wanted to.
>> I had the distinct impression my dog Ben would chuckle to himself on cold,
>> rainy days when the new guy had to go off to work, while Ben settled down
>> for a nice, cozy nap.
>> 
>> Someone once pointed out to me that guide dogs are used to being with
>> people.  They've been with people pretty much since the day they were born,
>> so they might not be happy left alone for hours on a regular basis.  But
>> we've been able to arrange for the retired dog to have company most of the
>> time, so it's been fine.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:42 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
>> Subject: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going
>> in November.
>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my
>> current guide, Doc.
>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone
>> but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>> How did they handle the transition?
>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked?
>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all?
>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited.
>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my
>> guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because
>> have had medical issues.
>> Many thanks,
>> nancy
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using
>> voice dictation
>> Nancy Irwin
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:28:42 -0500
>> From: "Ann Edie" <Annedie at nycap.rr.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional
>>   support animals
>> Message-ID: <000c01d3eec5$57427ee0$05c77ca0$@nycap.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Did anyone else notice the critical error in the below quote from Marion?
>> "...animals that are trained..." instead of "...animals that are not
>> trained...."
>> 
>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>> Marion.
>> 
>> I'm not blaming you, Marion, for this error, just reporter sloppiness or a
>> lapse in hearing, or something.
>> 
>> Having had many experiences with the press myself, I know how difficult it
>> is to get one's message across and to break through the barrier of what the
>> journalist thinks he/she is seeing or hearing, all the more reason to make
>> sure our message is carefully crafted and clearly explained to the press and
>> the public. Thank you Marion, for your strong and clear advocacy efforts on
>> behalf of blind people and service animal users.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ann
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 5:52 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>> animals
>> 
>> Pretty good article...except, guy dog?  Dictation is pretty awesome, but not
>> 
>> for writing published documents.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>> 16046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:29 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support 
>> animals
>> 
>> Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support animals
>> 
>> By:  Melanie Michael
>> 
>> Updated: May 16, 2018
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) - Passengers have plenty to deal with these days when it
>> comes to air travel.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> After all, odd things happen at 32,000 feet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Travelers are finding themselves more and more frustrated when it comes to
>> who's sitting alongside them in the cabin.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Those  "passengers" being the kind with feathers, scales or fur.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems the animals have taken center stage when flying the friendly skies.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lately, some planes look more like a petting zoo with the number of animals
>> on board.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We've seen it all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There's the case of the kangaroo, the peacock, the tortoise, the bunny, even
>> a parrot with its own ID badge, labeled "emotional support animal."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, the Department of Transportation announced continued
>> crackdowns on support animals allowed on flights.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Right now, federal law allows passengers to travel with an emotional support
>> animal for free.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, the rules are now being revised.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> By summer, passengers are looking at tighter restrictions that include a
>> 48-hour prior notification when traveling with an emotional support animal,
>> as well as providing proper paperwork to prove validity.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> One man is thrilled to see the feds taking action.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It's frustrating," said Marion Gwizdala, the president of the National
>> Association of Guide Dog Users. "They push the limit."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marion likes the new federal guidelines. He is plenty familiar with air
>> travel and has logged many a frequent flyer mile with his guy dog, Sarge.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> He says the problem with people who are abusing the system is the
>> possibility that an untrained animal will interfere with his legitimate
>> service dog.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>> Marion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just this week, American Airlines became the first air carrier to ban
>> animals such as hedgehogs and reptiles.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the new federal guidelines, the Department of Transportation is backing
>> the decision of air carriers in restricting certain creatures.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The new guidelines also protect the rights and freedom of blind passengers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "We want to be able to sit where we want to sit and be treated like an
>> adult," said Marion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Source:
>> 
>> http://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/changes-coming-for-those-who-fl
>> y-with-emotional-support-animals/1184009174
>> 
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>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:33:51 -0500
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional
>>   support animals
>> Message-ID: <B866E12B-A8EA-4570-A44C-61EF5617E7A3 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>> 
>> I did notice it and wondered if there was something wrong with how I was reading it. I had thought I would meditate on it a bit and then respond to it. I?m glad you did, Anne.
>> Cindyray at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> Cindy Lou
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Ann Edie via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did anyone else notice the critical error in the below quote from Marion?
>>> "...animals that are trained..." instead of "...animals that are not
>>> trained...."
>>> 
>>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>>> Marion.
>>> 
>>> I'm not blaming you, Marion, for this error, just reporter sloppiness or a
>>> lapse in hearing, or something.
>>> 
>>> Having had many experiences with the press myself, I know how difficult it
>>> is to get one's message across and to break through the barrier of what the
>>> journalist thinks he/she is seeing or hearing, all the more reason to make
>>> sure our message is carefully crafted and clearly explained to the press and
>>> the public. Thank you Marion, for your strong and clear advocacy efforts on
>>> behalf of blind people and service animal users.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 5:52 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>>> animals
>>> 
>>> Pretty good article...except, guy dog?  Dictation is pretty awesome, but not
>>> 
>>> for writing published documents.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:29 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support 
>>> animals
>>> 
>>> Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support animals
>>> 
>>> By:  Melanie Michael
>>> 
>>> Updated: May 16, 2018
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) - Passengers have plenty to deal with these days when it
>>> comes to air travel.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After all, odd things happen at 32,000 feet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Travelers are finding themselves more and more frustrated when it comes to
>>> who's sitting alongside them in the cabin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Those  "passengers" being the kind with feathers, scales or fur.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It seems the animals have taken center stage when flying the friendly skies.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lately, some planes look more like a petting zoo with the number of animals
>>> on board.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We've seen it all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's the case of the kangaroo, the peacock, the tortoise, the bunny, even
>>> a parrot with its own ID badge, labeled "emotional support animal."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, the Department of Transportation announced continued
>>> crackdowns on support animals allowed on flights.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Right now, federal law allows passengers to travel with an emotional support
>>> animal for free.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, the rules are now being revised.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> By summer, passengers are looking at tighter restrictions that include a
>>> 48-hour prior notification when traveling with an emotional support animal,
>>> as well as providing proper paperwork to prove validity.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One man is thrilled to see the feds taking action.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It's frustrating," said Marion Gwizdala, the president of the National
>>> Association of Guide Dog Users. "They push the limit."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marion likes the new federal guidelines. He is plenty familiar with air
>>> travel and has logged many a frequent flyer mile with his guy dog, Sarge.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He says the problem with people who are abusing the system is the
>>> possibility that an untrained animal will interfere with his legitimate
>>> service dog.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>>> Marion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just this week, American Airlines became the first air carrier to ban
>>> animals such as hedgehogs and reptiles.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With the new federal guidelines, the Department of Transportation is backing
>>> the decision of air carriers in restricting certain creatures.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The new guidelines also protect the rights and freedom of blind passengers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "We want to be able to sit where we want to sit and be treated like an
>>> adult," said Marion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Source:
>>> 
>>> http://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/changes-coming-for-those-who-fl
>>> y-with-emotional-support-animals/1184009174
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 11:37:24 -0500
>> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota4 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> Message-ID: <00f001d3eec6$80d5b1e0$828115a0$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Irish is doing better being left alone for an hour or two now. He used to hate being left. I think it's something you have to gradually get them used to but if I have to be gone longer and my husband isn't home, I have to get someone to come by and check on him and give him a trip outside. There's a period of adjustment when a dog is retiring and you just have to play it by ear and try to figure out what is going to work best. I haven't gotten a new dog, I've got some things to work out before I do that like getting a knew knee replacement or two before I can get a new dog. So I don't have that issue to work into the equation.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sandra Johnson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:55 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Johnson <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Tracy:
>> 
>> I know that Tara got very depressed when left alone.  I am glad you had your husband and other people to help you.  If I had folks to help I would probably have been able to keep Tara with me.  So, it is important to think of what family and friends you will have when it is needed.
>> 
>> Sandra
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:29 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Hi Nancy.
>> I have kept 2 retired guides in good health, and one with a terminal illness.
>> The 2 I kept long-term adjusted fine to retirement.  My husband and I often telecommute, so one or the other of us was almost always at home.  My husband took the retired dog for walks with his cane.  I think the dogs enjoyed taking a walk where they could sniff, and could greet anyone they wanted to.
>> I had the distinct impression my dog Ben would chuckle to himself on cold, rainy days when the new guy had to go off to work, while Ben settled down for a nice, cozy nap.
>> 
>> Someone once pointed out to me that guide dogs are used to being with people.  They've been with people pretty much since the day they were born, so they might not be happy left alone for hours on a regular basis.  But we've been able to arrange for the retired dog to have company most of the time, so it's been fine.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:42 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
>> Subject: [NAGDU] retiring guides
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> My husband and I have been accepted to guide dog school and we'll be going in November.
>> The more I think about it, the more concerned I feel about keeping my current guide, Doc.
>> We've thought about keeping my husband's guide also so they won't be alone but I'd like to hear from folks who kept their retired guides.
>> How did they handle the transition?
>> Did you still take them on walks? I guess I mean where they worked?
>> Did you try to keep them then decide not to after-all?
>> I'm feeling conflicted and sad, when I thought I'd be excited.
>> Thanks for any guidance you can give. This is my first time retiring my guide due to old age. My first guide?s retirement was in college because have had medical issues.
>> Many thanks,
>> nancy
>> 
>> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using voice dictation Nancy Irwin
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NAGDU mailing list
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>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 14:20:08 -0400
>> From: "Ginger Kutsch" <Ginger at ky2d.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane
>>   scuffle in Orlando
>> Message-ID: <017b01d3eed4$dbffd3d0$93ff7b70$@ky2d.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane scuffle in Orlando 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Orlando Sentinel)
>> 
>> By Bianca Padr? Ocasio?Contact Reporter
>> 
>> Orlando Sentinel May 18, 2018, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A 59-year-old man punched a deaf pregnant woman and her service dog inside a
>> Frontier flight upon landing in Orlando on Friday, Orlando Police said.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> According to a police report, Timothy Manley was travelling from Colorado
>> Springs in Colorado, along with his wife Petrini Manley, 56, and Joshua
>> Manley, 27, all from Gainesville.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Petrini Manley complained of being allergic to dogs as the plane descended
>> and was being taxied to the gate at the Orlando International Airport. The
>> service animal, a Great Dane, woke up and Timothy Manley told police the dog
>> ?took up more space than [he] felt it deserved.?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Timothy Manley punched the service dog, Zariel, and caused it to yelp.
>> Zariel shook her head and hid under a seat, according to the police report.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The 21-year-old woman and her 30-year-old partner, who is also deaf, tried
>> to yell at Timothy Manley as best as they could, the report indicates.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Police said Timothy Manley then got into the man?s face and punched the
>> woman, who is about 20 weeks pregnant.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Two officers arrived at the scene of the scuffle as Timothy Manley passed by
>> them, saying ?It took you all long enough to get here,? according to the
>> report.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The 30-year-old man said he tackled Timothy Manley until police arrived. All
>> the people involved declined medical treatment, but the woman said she wants
>> to prosecute and is willing to testify in court.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Orlando Police Department spokeswoman Michelle Guido said the incident
>> report has been handed over to the FBI, which is handling the investigation
>> since the altercation happened on the plane.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-punch-airplane-dog-preg
>> nant-woman-20180518-story.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 14:46:06 -0400
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional
>>   support animals
>> Message-ID: <00c301d3eed8$7adf7d90$709e78b0$@access.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> I noticed that, too.  I think proofreading is a lost art, quite possibly
>> along with editing.  Grrrr. Spellchecking is not the end of proofreading!
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ann Edie via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 12:29 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Ann Edie
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>> animals
>> 
>> Did anyone else notice the critical error in the below quote from Marion?
>> "...animals that are trained..." instead of "...animals that are not
>> trained...."
>> 
>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>> Marion.
>> 
>> I'm not blaming you, Marion, for this error, just reporter sloppiness or a
>> lapse in hearing, or something.
>> 
>> Having had many experiences with the press myself, I know how difficult it
>> is to get one's message across and to break through the barrier of what the
>> journalist thinks he/she is seeing or hearing, all the more reason to make
>> sure our message is carefully crafted and clearly explained to the press and
>> the public. Thank you Marion, for your strong and clear advocacy efforts on
>> behalf of blind people and service animal users.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ann
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 5:52 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>> animals
>> 
>> Pretty good article...except, guy dog?  Dictation is pretty awesome, but not
>> 
>> for writing published documents.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>> 16046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:29 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support 
>> animals
>> 
>> Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support animals
>> 
>> By:  Melanie Michael
>> 
>> Updated: May 16, 2018
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) - Passengers have plenty to deal with these days when it
>> comes to air travel.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> After all, odd things happen at 32,000 feet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Travelers are finding themselves more and more frustrated when it comes to
>> who's sitting alongside them in the cabin.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Those  "passengers" being the kind with feathers, scales or fur.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems the animals have taken center stage when flying the friendly skies.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lately, some planes look more like a petting zoo with the number of animals
>> on board.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We've seen it all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There's the case of the kangaroo, the peacock, the tortoise, the bunny, even
>> a parrot with its own ID badge, labeled "emotional support animal."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, the Department of Transportation announced continued
>> crackdowns on support animals allowed on flights.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Right now, federal law allows passengers to travel with an emotional support
>> animal for free.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, the rules are now being revised.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> By summer, passengers are looking at tighter restrictions that include a
>> 48-hour prior notification when traveling with an emotional support animal,
>> as well as providing proper paperwork to prove validity.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> One man is thrilled to see the feds taking action.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It's frustrating," said Marion Gwizdala, the president of the National
>> Association of Guide Dog Users. "They push the limit."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marion likes the new federal guidelines. He is plenty familiar with air
>> travel and has logged many a frequent flyer mile with his guy dog, Sarge.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> He says the problem with people who are abusing the system is the
>> possibility that an untrained animal will interfere with his legitimate
>> service dog.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>> Marion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just this week, American Airlines became the first air carrier to ban
>> animals such as hedgehogs and reptiles.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the new federal guidelines, the Department of Transportation is backing
>> the decision of air carriers in restricting certain creatures.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The new guidelines also protect the rights and freedom of blind passengers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "We want to be able to sit where we want to sit and be treated like an
>> adult," said Marion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Source:
>> 
>> http://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/changes-coming-for-those-who-fl
>> y-with-emotional-support-animals/1184009174
>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 13:49:35 -0500
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Pregnant woman and service dog punched in
>>   airplane scuffle in Orlando
>> Message-ID: <000d01d3eed8$f8006b40$e80141c0$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> Oh, this is just awful! I just don't know where all of the violence and
>> anger in this country ends. I have to be honest. It makes me almost feel
>> that I don't want to get another dog; yet this really won't solve anything
>> or guarantee I am safe from such things. I just don't remember ever hearing
>> about things like this back when I was young. Maybe I'm just an old wwoman
>> who doesn't remember. 
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 1:20 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch <Ginger at ky2d.com>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane scuffle
>> in Orlando
>> 
>> Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane scuffle in Orlando 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Orlando Sentinel)
>> 
>> By Bianca Padr? Ocasio?Contact Reporter
>> 
>> Orlando Sentinel May 18, 2018, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A 59-year-old man punched a deaf pregnant woman and her service dog inside a
>> Frontier flight upon landing in Orlando on Friday, Orlando Police said.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> According to a police report, Timothy Manley was travelling from Colorado
>> Springs in Colorado, along with his wife Petrini Manley, 56, and Joshua
>> Manley, 27, all from Gainesville.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Petrini Manley complained of being allergic to dogs as the plane descended
>> and was being taxied to the gate at the Orlando International Airport. The
>> service animal, a Great Dane, woke up and Timothy Manley told police the dog
>> ?took up more space than [he] felt it deserved.?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Timothy Manley punched the service dog, Zariel, and caused it to yelp.
>> Zariel shook her head and hid under a seat, according to the police report.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The 21-year-old woman and her 30-year-old partner, who is also deaf, tried
>> to yell at Timothy Manley as best as they could, the report indicates.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Police said Timothy Manley then got into the man?s face and punched the
>> woman, who is about 20 weeks pregnant.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Two officers arrived at the scene of the scuffle as Timothy Manley passed by
>> them, saying ?It took you all long enough to get here,? according to the
>> report.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The 30-year-old man said he tackled Timothy Manley until police arrived. All
>> the people involved declined medical treatment, but the woman said she wants
>> to prosecute and is willing to testify in court.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Orlando Police Department spokeswoman Michelle Guido said the incident
>> report has been handed over to the FBI, which is handling the investigation
>> since the altercation happened on the plane.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-punch-airplane-dog-preg
>> nant-woman-20180518-story.html
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 13:04:58 -0700
>> From: Peter Wolf <pwolf1 at wolfskills.com>
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,    Colorado Association of Guide Dog Users List
>>   <coagdu at nfbnet.org>,    flagdu at nfbnet.org,    Michigan Guide Dog Users
>>   Committee List <micgdu at nfbnet.org>,    New Jersey Association of Guide
>>   Dog Users <njagdu at nfbnet.org>,    nyagdu at nfbnet.org, oagdu at nfbnet.org,
>>   txagdu at nfbtx.org,    vagdu at nfbnet.org, NAGDU President
>>   <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] [Blindtlk] DOT Releases Interim Enforcement
>>   Priorities concerning Service Animals and ESAs
>> Message-ID: <AADCFA48-9191-48EF-910C-EA6935A17D59 at wolfskills.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>> 
>> Marion,
>> 
>> My reactions to the interim plan are:
>> 
>> 1.  Yes, restrictions are needed regarding behavior of untrained (working) PSA and ESA.   This is good.
>> 2.  The same, obviously, for fake PSA and ESA.
>> 
>> -In both cases, I agree that a vet cannot be the informed certifier, because they only know the animal in a very limited context.  And we all know that vet offices can have any number of effects (including extreme) on animal behavior, such it may be far from any context of actual familiarity.  
>> 
>> Proof of training absolutely should be required.  But there?s the tangle.  Many of us know about problems with one agency that appears to have co-opted what defines an ?acceptable training program? identity in other countries, even to the point that it may prohibit travel unless you have a dog through that agency of one of it?s affiliates.  It has prohibited us before.  That, for all of it?s good intention, is a definition of discrimination.  So what in the end of this process, defines ?trained??   Clear and simple, it one thing:  real time behavior.
>> 
>> My other concern about proof of training, is, what prevents just one more layer of marketing, the sale and purchase of a bogus internet ?I am trained? certificate?
>> 
>> 3. This brings me to the essential requirement:  Agencies and staff, from TSA to airline counter and boarding employees and air crews, need to have training, to immediately discern in real time, case by case, that an animal?s behavior is that of a working, trained animal.  There is no way around this.  Imagine how things might change if, when a boarding agent observes an untrained animal in the act six bodies back in line barking or snarling at someone in line, they can judge the situation and handle it?  This means however, the three things that organizations don?t want:  education, inconvenience in the present moment, and the expense to make it possible.  But it is the only real thing that will actually work in the way that policies and certifications cannot.  
>> 
>> 4.  The proposal needs teeth, in the form of boundaries and consequences.   The boundaries, as mentioned, reside in being observed acting trained or untrained.  Consequences must include the owner personally certifying responsibility for their trained animal?s behavior.  Having to submit to giving one's signature below a warning of consequences or penalties does remarkable things for effect.   Unless sociopathic, one who must certify personal responsibility for behavior or damage will consider twice whether to fudge a rule, or outright lie about their dog.  Imagine this in a rubber hits the road way:  What wold you do if security came and said ?Either your working dog behaves like one, or it goes in freight, or you are free to board this aircraft today but without the animal??   
>> 
>> An additional point on imposing consequences:  We are a body of people who use working dogs, and have been inputting on this process over time.  Some of us have been at the effect of untrained or fake dog abuses.  Therefore the federal law outlining consequences for interrupting a service dog?s work, or harming a service dog should be part of the text of certifying personal responsibility for PSA or ESA.  If that?s a discrimination issue, I personally would have no issue in signing responsibility for my own working guide.  After all, we already have to adhere to this same standard anyway; so what would be an issue as individuals or a discrimination to us to state what already is our obvious behavior and responsibility as teams?
>> 
>> Thanks for the good work!  Marion I wasn?t clear.  There will be a group input process through you as I understand it.  But would it would be more effective still if we also wrote as individuals as well?  Please clarify.
>> 
>> My best,
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:40 PM, NAGDU President via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>             Earlier today, the United States Department of
>>> Transportation released interim enforcement priorities for the Air Carrier
>>> Access Act (ACAA) concerning the carriage of service animals and emotional
>>> support animals in the aircraft cabin. I sent a previous message with those
>>> priorities and promised to comment on them after I had the opportunity to
>>> review them. It is important to understand that, as the title of the
>>> attached document states, these are interim enforcement policies, meaning
>>> they are meant to communicate where the Department will temporarily focus
>>> its enforcement resources. The release of this document provides the public
>>> with 15 days to make comments, after which the Department will issue final
>>> enforcement priorities. In addition, this document also provides information
>>> about an advance notice of proposed rule making (ANPRM) which is intended to
>>> advise the public about the implementing regulations the Department intends
>>> to institute. The public has an opportunity to comment on the ANPRM. Once
>>> the comment period ends, the Department will then issue a notice of proposed
>>> rule making and afford another opportunity for public comment. Once this
>>> comment period closes, the Department will issue its implementing
>>> regulations. The instructions for filing comments are contained in the
>>> attached document and will be provided in each subsequent document. It is
>>> important to note the docket numbers for comments in order to be sure your
>>> input is considered. The National Federation of the Blind and its special
>>> interest division, the National Association of Guide Dog Users, will create
>>> a coordinated comment on each of these items.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>             So, what are the enforcement priorities of the Department of
>>> Transportation as they pertain to service animals? Here are some direct
>>> excerpts from this document:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1.       Requiring advance notice for service animals.violates the
>>> Department's regulation and may significantly harm passengers with
>>> disabilities as it prevents them from making last minute travel plans that
>>> may be necessary for work or family emergencies;
>>> 
>>> 2.       The Department's service animal regulation requires airlines to
>>> accept the following as proof of a service animal's status: identification
>>> cards, other written documentation, presence of harnesses, tags, or the
>>> credible verbal assurances of a qualified individual with a disability using
>>> the animal. 14 CFR 382.117(d); 
>>> 
>>> 3.       the Enforcement Office intends to act should an airline require
>>> that a passenger with a service animal check-in at the ticket counter,
>>> thereby denying those passengers the same benefits that are available to
>>> other passengers; 
>>> 
>>> 4.       carriers may refuse transportation to any service animal that
>>> displays behavior evidencing a lack of training in a public space;
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like to encourage everyone to read the attached document and invite
>>> a discussion of these enforcement priorities. As previously stated, the
>>> National Federation of the Blind and the National Asociation of Guide Dog
>>> Users will craft a coordinated comment on this enforcement priority and the
>>> advance notice of proposed rule making. We need to hear from you so that
>>> these comments reflect the wishes and interests of our members. A discussion
>>> on our lists is encouraged to help everyone process and understand these
>>> priorities; however, please send comments for consideration to me directly
>>> to
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> president at nagdu.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     Finally, in the very near future, I will CREATE A commentary
>>> specifically on the ANPRM AND INVITE discussion on it. I appreciate the
>>> incredible energy and advocacy of our membership and look forward to seeing
>>> many of you at our fabulous convention in July!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> 
>>> Marion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>>> 
>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
>>> 
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> 
>>> (813) 626-2789
>>> 
>>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>>> 
>>> Visit our website <http://nagdu.org/> 
>>> 
>>> Follow us on Twitter <http://twitter.com/nagdu> 
>>> 
>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
>>> expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people
>>> and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
>>> you back.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <DOT Interim Enforcement Priorities.pdf>_______________________________________________
>>> blindtlk mailing list
>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 16:11:36 -0500
>> From: <nellie at culodge.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional
>>   support animals
>> Message-ID: <010c01d3eeec$ce891820$6b9b4860$@culodge.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Yes, I did catch that right away but not sure what could be done about it
>> now?
>> 
>> Janell
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ann Edie via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:29 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ann Edie <Annedie at nycap.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>> animals
>> 
>> Did anyone else notice the critical error in the below quote from Marion?
>> "...animals that are trained..." instead of "...animals that are not
>> trained...."
>> 
>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>> Marion.
>> 
>> I'm not blaming you, Marion, for this error, just reporter sloppiness or a
>> lapse in hearing, or something.
>> 
>> Having had many experiences with the press myself, I know how difficult it
>> is to get one's message across and to break through the barrier of what the
>> journalist thinks he/she is seeing or hearing, all the more reason to make
>> sure our message is carefully crafted and clearly explained to the press and
>> the public. Thank you Marion, for your strong and clear advocacy efforts on
>> behalf of blind people and service animal users.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ann
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 5:52 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>> animals
>> 
>> Pretty good article...except, guy dog?  Dictation is pretty awesome, but not
>> 
>> for writing published documents.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>> 16046>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:29 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>> animals
>> 
>> Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support animals
>> 
>> By:  Melanie Michael
>> 
>> Updated: May 16, 2018
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) - Passengers have plenty to deal with these days when it
>> comes to air travel.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> After all, odd things happen at 32,000 feet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Travelers are finding themselves more and more frustrated when it comes to
>> who's sitting alongside them in the cabin.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Those  "passengers" being the kind with feathers, scales or fur.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems the animals have taken center stage when flying the friendly skies.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lately, some planes look more like a petting zoo with the number of animals
>> on board.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We've seen it all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There's the case of the kangaroo, the peacock, the tortoise, the bunny, even
>> a parrot with its own ID badge, labeled "emotional support animal."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, the Department of Transportation announced continued
>> crackdowns on support animals allowed on flights.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Right now, federal law allows passengers to travel with an emotional support
>> animal for free.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, the rules are now being revised.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> By summer, passengers are looking at tighter restrictions that include a
>> 48-hour prior notification when traveling with an emotional support animal,
>> as well as providing proper paperwork to prove validity.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> One man is thrilled to see the feds taking action.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "It's frustrating," said Marion Gwizdala, the president of the National
>> Association of Guide Dog Users. "They push the limit."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marion likes the new federal guidelines. He is plenty familiar with air
>> travel and has logged many a frequent flyer mile with his guy dog, Sarge.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> He says the problem with people who are abusing the system is the
>> possibility that an untrained animal will interfere with his legitimate
>> service dog.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>> Marion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just this week, American Airlines became the first air carrier to ban
>> animals such as hedgehogs and reptiles.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the new federal guidelines, the Department of Transportation is backing
>> the decision of air carriers in restricting certain creatures.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The new guidelines also protect the rights and freedom of blind passengers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "We want to be able to sit where we want to sit and be treated like an
>> adult," said Marion.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Source:
>> 
>> http://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/changes-coming-for-those-who-fl
>> y-with-emotional-support-animals/1184009174
>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 17:53:02 -0400
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [NAGDU] dog hair
>> Message-ID: <f78a54ed.71a1.4e8c.9525.809182effda6 at samobile.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>> 
>> I have a dog bed that I can put in the washer.
>> I am trying to take off the dog hair as much as I can so there isn't a 
>> problem with the washer.
>> I used a vacuum where I still feel the hair, took some off with my hand.
>> I was worried about a dog brush, don't want to tare up the bed.
>> She has a second bed now, where I want to wash one let it dry while 
>> using the second one.
>> Thanks for any tips.
>> 
>> -- 
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 18:03:21 -0400
>> From: David <david at bakerinet.com>
>> To: Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional
>>   support animals
>> Message-ID: <c24d5c64-7f32-db32-e515-6d65065df381 at bakerinet.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> 
>> I caught that, too, but in some ways it doesn't matter, since if the 
>> animal is trained and still misbehaves, it doesn't matter whether is a 
>> service animal, an ESA, or a PSA
>> 
>> *David in Clearwater, FL*
>> *david at bakerinet.com
>> 
>> *
>>> On 5/18/2018 5:11 PM, Janell via NAGDU wrote:
>>> Yes, I did catch that right away but not sure what could be done about it
>>> now?
>>> 
>>> Janell
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ann Edie via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:29 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Ann Edie <Annedie at nycap.rr.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>>> animals
>>> 
>>> Did anyone else notice the critical error in the below quote from Marion?
>>> "...animals that are trained..." instead of "...animals that are not
>>> trained...."
>>> 
>>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>>> Marion.
>>> 
>>> I'm not blaming you, Marion, for this error, just reporter sloppiness or a
>>> lapse in hearing, or something.
>>> 
>>> Having had many experiences with the press myself, I know how difficult it
>>> is to get one's message across and to break through the barrier of what the
>>> journalist thinks he/she is seeing or hearing, all the more reason to make
>>> sure our message is carefully crafted and clearly explained to the press and
>>> the public. Thank you Marion, for your strong and clear advocacy efforts on
>>> behalf of blind people and service animal users.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 5:52 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>>> animals
>>> 
>>> Pretty good article...except, guy dog?  Dictation is pretty awesome, but not
>>> 
>>> for writing published documents.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:29 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>>> animals
>>> 
>>> Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support animals
>>> 
>>> By:  Melanie Michael
>>> 
>>> Updated: May 16, 2018
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) - Passengers have plenty to deal with these days when it
>>> comes to air travel.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After all, odd things happen at 32,000 feet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Travelers are finding themselves more and more frustrated when it comes to
>>> who's sitting alongside them in the cabin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Those  "passengers" being the kind with feathers, scales or fur.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It seems the animals have taken center stage when flying the friendly skies.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lately, some planes look more like a petting zoo with the number of animals
>>> on board.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We've seen it all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's the case of the kangaroo, the peacock, the tortoise, the bunny, even
>>> a parrot with its own ID badge, labeled "emotional support animal."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, the Department of Transportation announced continued
>>> crackdowns on support animals allowed on flights.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Right now, federal law allows passengers to travel with an emotional support
>>> animal for free.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, the rules are now being revised.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> By summer, passengers are looking at tighter restrictions that include a
>>> 48-hour prior notification when traveling with an emotional support animal,
>>> as well as providing proper paperwork to prove validity.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One man is thrilled to see the feds taking action.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It's frustrating," said Marion Gwizdala, the president of the National
>>> Association of Guide Dog Users. "They push the limit."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marion likes the new federal guidelines. He is plenty familiar with air
>>> travel and has logged many a frequent flyer mile with his guy dog, Sarge.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He says the problem with people who are abusing the system is the
>>> possibility that an untrained animal will interfere with his legitimate
>>> service dog.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy," said
>>> Marion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just this week, American Airlines became the first air carrier to ban
>>> animals such as hedgehogs and reptiles.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With the new federal guidelines, the Department of Transportation is backing
>>> the decision of air carriers in restricting certain creatures.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The new guidelines also protect the rights and freedom of blind passengers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "We want to be able to sit where we want to sit and be treated like an
>>> adult," said Marion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Source:
>>> 
>>> http://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/changes-coming-for-those-who-fl
>>> y-with-emotional-support-animals/1184009174
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 18:17:46 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Marilyn tucci <t21114 at optonline.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] dog hair
>> Message-ID: <393af2b8.58277.163755490e0.Webtop.37 at optonline.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no
>> 
>> Hi Dar,
>> Try using a lint brush on the dog bed before you wash it.??
>> Marilyn and the girls
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 05:53 PM, d m gina via NAGDU wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a dog bed that I can put in the washer.
>>> I am trying to take off the dog hair as much as I can so there isn't a 
>>> problem with the washer.
>>> I used a vacuum where I still feel the hair, took some off with my 
>>> hand.
>>> I was worried about a dog brush, don't want to tare up the bed.
>>> She has a second bed now, where I want to wash one let it dry while 
>>> using the second one.
>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --Dar
>>> skype: dmgina23
>>> FB: dmgina
>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>> 
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>>> NAGDU:
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 20:34:32 -0400
>> From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional
>>   support animals
>> Message-ID: <0beb01d3ef09$28702a60$79507f20$@verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>>   If you are referring to the transcript of the piece, it might have
>> been a typo. Is the actual audio/videoaccompanying this? I'll need to check
>> it out and see if I hiccupped or something! (smile)
>> 
>> Marion
>> 
>> 
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> (813) 626-2789
>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>> Visit our website
>> Follow us on Twitter
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
>> expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people
>> and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
>> you back.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 6:03 PM
>> To: Janell via NAGDU
>> Cc: David
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>> animals
>> 
>> I caught that, too, but in some ways it doesn't matter, since if the 
>> animal is trained and still misbehaves, it doesn't matter whether is a 
>> service animal, an ESA, or a PSA
>> 
>> *David in Clearwater, FL*
>> *david at bakerinet.com
>> 
>> *
>>> On 5/18/2018 5:11 PM, Janell via NAGDU wrote:
>>> Yes, I did catch that right away but not sure what could be done about it
>>> now?
>>> 
>>> Janell
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ann Edie via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:29 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Ann Edie <Annedie at nycap.rr.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional
>> support
>>> animals
>>> 
>>> Did anyone else notice the critical error in the below quote from Marion?
>>> "...animals that are trained..." instead of "...animals that are not
>>> trained...."
>>> 
>>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy,"
>> said
>>> Marion.
>>> 
>>> I'm not blaming you, Marion, for this error, just reporter sloppiness or a
>>> lapse in hearing, or something.
>>> 
>>> Having had many experiences with the press myself, I know how difficult it
>>> is to get one's message across and to break through the barrier of what
>> the
>>> journalist thinks he/she is seeing or hearing, all the more reason to make
>>> sure our message is carefully crafted and clearly explained to the press
>> and
>>> the public. Thank you Marion, for your strong and clear advocacy efforts
>> on
>>> behalf of blind people and service animal users.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson
>> via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 5:52 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional
>> support
>>> animals
>>> 
>>> Pretty good article...except, guy dog?  Dictation is pretty awesome, but
>> not
>>> 
>>> for writing published documents.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 9:29 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support
>>> animals
>>> 
>>> Changes coming for those who fly with emotional support animals
>>> 
>>> By:  Melanie Michael
>>> 
>>> Updated: May 16, 2018
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) - Passengers have plenty to deal with these days when
>> it
>>> comes to air travel.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After all, odd things happen at 32,000 feet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Travelers are finding themselves more and more frustrated when it comes to
>>> who's sitting alongside them in the cabin.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Those  "passengers" being the kind with feathers, scales or fur.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It seems the animals have taken center stage when flying the friendly
>> skies.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lately, some planes look more like a petting zoo with the number of
>> animals
>>> on board.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We've seen it all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's the case of the kangaroo, the peacock, the tortoise, the bunny,
>> even
>>> a parrot with its own ID badge, labeled "emotional support animal."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, the Department of Transportation announced continued
>>> crackdowns on support animals allowed on flights.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Right now, federal law allows passengers to travel with an emotional
>> support
>>> animal for free.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, the rules are now being revised.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> By summer, passengers are looking at tighter restrictions that include a
>>> 48-hour prior notification when traveling with an emotional support
>> animal,
>>> as well as providing proper paperwork to prove validity.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One man is thrilled to see the feds taking action.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "It's frustrating," said Marion Gwizdala, the president of the National
>>> Association of Guide Dog Users. "They push the limit."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marion likes the new federal guidelines. He is plenty familiar with air
>>> travel and has logged many a frequent flyer mile with his guy dog, Sarge.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He says the problem with people who are abusing the system is the
>>> possibility that an untrained animal will interfere with his legitimate
>>> service dog.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "People should not be bringing animals that are trained and can't behave
>>> into public places. It puts my service dog and my safety in jeopardy,"
>> said
>>> Marion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just this week, American Airlines became the first air carrier to ban
>>> animals such as hedgehogs and reptiles.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With the new federal guidelines, the Department of Transportation is
>> backing
>>> the decision of air carriers in restricting certain creatures.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The new guidelines also protect the rights and freedom of blind
>> passengers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "We want to be able to sit where we want to sit and be treated like an
>>> adult," said Marion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Source:
>> http://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/changes-coming-for-those-who-fl
>>> y-with-emotional-support-animals/1184009174
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 20:40:23 -0400
>> From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog
>>   Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Pregnant woman and service dog punched in
>>   airplane scuffle in Orlando
>> Message-ID: <0bec01d3ef09$f95f8fd0$ec1eaf70$@verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> Since this happened in Florida, we also have misdemeanor penalties for
>> intentionally injuring a service dog. Perhaps we should get the FBI to turn
>> that part over to the Orange County State Attorney!
>> 
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>> 
>> 
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> (813) 626-2789
>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>> Visit our website
>> Follow us on Twitter
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
>> expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people
>> and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
>> you back.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 2:50 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane
>> scuffle in Orlando
>> 
>> Oh, this is just awful! I just don't know where all of the violence and
>> anger in this country ends. I have to be honest. It makes me almost feel
>> that I don't want to get another dog; yet this really won't solve anything
>> or guarantee I am safe from such things. I just don't remember ever hearing
>> about things like this back when I was young. Maybe I'm just an old wwoman
>> who doesn't remember. 
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 1:20 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch <Ginger at ky2d.com>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane scuffle
>> in Orlando
>> 
>> Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane scuffle in Orlando 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Orlando Sentinel)
>> 
>> By Bianca Padr? Ocasio?Contact Reporter
>> 
>> Orlando Sentinel May 18, 2018, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A 59-year-old man punched a deaf pregnant woman and her service dog inside a
>> Frontier flight upon landing in Orlando on Friday, Orlando Police said.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> According to a police report, Timothy Manley was travelling from Colorado
>> Springs in Colorado, along with his wife Petrini Manley, 56, and Joshua
>> Manley, 27, all from Gainesville.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Petrini Manley complained of being allergic to dogs as the plane descended
>> and was being taxied to the gate at the Orlando International Airport. The
>> service animal, a Great Dane, woke up and Timothy Manley told police the dog
>> ?took up more space than [he] felt it deserved.?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Timothy Manley punched the service dog, Zariel, and caused it to yelp.
>> Zariel shook her head and hid under a seat, according to the police report.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The 21-year-old woman and her 30-year-old partner, who is also deaf, tried
>> to yell at Timothy Manley as best as they could, the report indicates.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Police said Timothy Manley then got into the man?s face and punched the
>> woman, who is about 20 weeks pregnant.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Two officers arrived at the scene of the scuffle as Timothy Manley passed by
>> them, saying ?It took you all long enough to get here,? according to the
>> report.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The 30-year-old man said he tackled Timothy Manley until police arrived. All
>> the people involved declined medical treatment, but the woman said she wants
>> to prosecute and is willing to testify in court.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Orlando Police Department spokeswoman Michelle Guido said the incident
>> report has been handed over to the FBI, which is handling the investigation
>> since the altercation happened on the plane.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-punch-airplane-dog-preg
>> nant-woman-20180518-story.html
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>> Message: 24
>> Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 21:50:16 -0400
>> From: Jessica Dail <jldail13 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,    the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>   <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Pregnant woman and service dog punched in
>>   airplane scuffle in Orlando
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>> Hi,
>> It Devastates me to hear about all this, and I don?t even have a guide dog yet. It?s one of my main goals in life though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, this is just awful! I just don't know where all of the violence and
>>> anger in this country ends. I have to be honest. It makes me almost feel
>>> that I don't want to get another dog; yet this really won't solve anything
>>> or guarantee I am safe from such things. I just don't remember ever hearing
>>> about things like this back when I was young. Maybe I'm just an old wwoman
>>> who doesn't remember. 
>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ginger Kutsch via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 1:20 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Ginger Kutsch <Ginger at ky2d.com>
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane scuffle
>>> in Orlando
>>> 
>>> Pregnant woman and service dog punched in airplane scuffle in Orlando 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Orlando Sentinel)
>>> 
>>> By Bianca Padr? Ocasio?Contact Reporter
>>> 
>>> Orlando Sentinel May 18, 2018, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A 59-year-old man punched a deaf pregnant woman and her service dog inside a
>>> Frontier flight upon landing in Orlando on Friday, Orlando Police said.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> According to a police report, Timothy Manley was travelling from Colorado
>>> Springs in Colorado, along with his wife Petrini Manley, 56, and Joshua
>>> Manley, 27, all from Gainesville.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Petrini Manley complained of being allergic to dogs as the plane descended
>>> and was being taxied to the gate at the Orlando International Airport. The
>>> service animal, a Great Dane, woke up and Timothy Manley told police the dog
>>> ?took up more space than [he] felt it deserved.?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Timothy Manley punched the service dog, Zariel, and caused it to yelp.
>>> Zariel shook her head and hid under a seat, according to the police report.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The 21-year-old woman and her 30-year-old partner, who is also deaf, tried
>>> to yell at Timothy Manley as best as they could, the report indicates.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Police said Timothy Manley then got into the man?s face and punched the
>>> woman, who is about 20 weeks pregnant.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Two officers arrived at the scene of the scuffle as Timothy Manley passed by
>>> them, saying ?It took you all long enough to get here,? according to the
>>> report.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The 30-year-old man said he tackled Timothy Manley until police arrived. All
>>> the people involved declined medical treatment, but the woman said she wants
>>> to prosecute and is willing to testify in court.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Orlando Police Department spokeswoman Michelle Guido said the incident
>>> report has been handed over to the FBI, which is handling the investigation
>>> since the altercation happened on the plane.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-punch-airplane-dog-preg
>>> nant-woman-20180518-story.html
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