[NAGDU] Someone really needs to go make it clear to Leader

Jordan Gallacher jordangandbelto at gmail.com
Sun Sep 16 22:49:27 UTC 2018


Update coming once I am home from NJ. 
Jordan 

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> On Sep 16, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Once again, I would say it is not ours to tell Jordan or anyone else what to do. It is up to him to cover all of his options. There may be good reasons why Jordan isn't doing what we are telling him to do, which is not our place anyway. We can suggest it and say all of the same things, but we cannot tell Jordan it is time. Only Jordan knows if the time has come or not. Let's be careful about telling people what to do please.
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> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gabriel Moloney via NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:16 AM
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> Cc: Gabriel Moloney <gmoloney6467 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Someone really needs to go make it clear to Leader
> 
> Hi Jordon
> First of all it is very interesting that nobody has replied to your post on this subject.  These are just my thoughts on this matter, this has been another post regards to you guide and how things are not working out for you as a partnership.  I do not want to come across as being rude, or blunt, but it is time to give your guide back to the school as your guide dog is putting your life in danger and possibility of putting the general public in danger as well, but more importantly your own safety.  I know very little about the school Leader that you are talking about, so I will pass no comments on their training etc.  You also stated that you had applied to another school for your next dog , but you were going to wait until somebody from Leader called to meet with you, my question is why wait, just apply to Freedom Dogs at least you will be on their waiting list.  I know that this is not perfect and waiting lists can be very long or in some cases very short, but you will not know, until you make that first step.
> If your current dog is not working as a professional then it is time to hand that dog back, think of your own safety, and yes I know, this is hard to do especially if the dog is at a yiyoung age, where it will be back to using the Kane in the meantime, people here have been supportive and have given you some good suggestions in the past, I feel it has gotten the point in applying to different schools for a working guide.  Again I don’t want to sound heartless or cruel in my reply to your post.
> regards
> gabriel
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> After the field rep told me to just stop in the middle of crossing a 
>> street when the dog goes bonkers when crossing, and also when he 
>> decides to drift into parallel traffic, I called Leader, and the 
>> person in client services is much more concerned about me being told 
>> to do that than others in that organization, including the client 
>> services manager who thinks the above is appropriate and is how to do 
>> things.  I ended up calling the CEO about this,and he also agrees that 
>> stopping in the middle of a street on in parallel traffic is 
>> dangerous.  An O&M instructor has also noticed problems here.  
>> Fortunately, the field rep who is coming out happens to be one whom I 
>> have worked with in class.  If she cannot figure out how to get this 
>> dog working correctly again, no one will be able to.  Pce is also 
>> becoming an issue and something I am watching closely.  I have 
>> requested an application from Freedom, and I will be ready to fill it out if and/or when the time comes later rather than sooner.
>> 
>> Jordan
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