[NAGDU] FHA question

Thu Sep 20 15:18:11 UTC 2018

We do have a Tennent that claims she needs an ESA dog and she provided us with some ridiculous certificate she printed on-line.  She says she is in dire need of this dog yet she never has it with her and we have had complaints about the dog barking all day and night when she is gone.  Now she told us she is also going to have an ESA cat.  I looked up the laws in Wisconsin and sure enough she can have more than one ESA animal and we can't say anything about it.  It is just her way of getting to have a pet.  I fully understand that there are folks who really do benefit from ESA animals but in this particular situation it is not legit and we can't  do anything about it.

Just food for thought...

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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dan Weiner via NAGDU
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 11:00 PM
To: Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FHA question

I know this isn't a helpful comment, but I wonder if all the folks with illigit so- called service animals, folks who have pets and they buy a certificate on line, or get their doc to write a note, have indeed caused this problem to come in to being. I know a guy in my area who literally got his doctor to write a note saying his cat is a service animal and then he showed it to his apartment office as it's a no pets apartment or something...so it does seem to be a more widespread problem then I would have thought.  I was actually surprised he didn't at least have the brains to keep that under raps but he seems to be telling everyone, oh well, ..

The point is, if people with what would I call it, fake service animals act all  official about it and show certification or supposed certification to get away with stuff, then can you hardly blame the uneducated public for asking about this stuff. I do suspect, though it's total ignorance and probably the first thing that comes in to their mind, the public that is, rather than anything based on misleading precedent.

.I wish you good luck, Jordan, if it's not one thing it seems to be another, right?--smile

Dan the man and Parker the nut

On 9/19/2018 11:30 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU wrote:
> Thanks for the responses. That is exactly what I thought. I am going to wait for them to ask again and decide how to handle it.
> Jordan
>
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>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 10:23 PM, Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Jordan,
>>
>> I own numerous properties in Wisconsin and it is 100% not okay that your
>> landlord is asking about Belto.  They can not only not ask about him, they
>> cannot ask for a separate pet deposit nor can they ask for an additional
>> monthly fee for a service animal.  They can however get/ask/require any
>> damages (if any) from any animal (service dog or not) if there are any
>> damages to the property.
>>
>> Hope this helps, Janell
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melissa Allman via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:21 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
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>> Cc: Melissa Allman <MAllman at seeingeye.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FHA question
>>
>> Hi Jordan. I've attached some guidance published by HUD in 2013 concerning
>> assistance animals. It applies to both private and public housing. Below is
>> some pertinent language from the memo I think you will find helpful.
>> Basically, no the landlord cannot ask for certification to prove that Belto
>> is a service animal. See below and attached:
>>
>> "However, a housing provider may not ask a tenant or applicant to provide
>> documentation showing the disability or disability-related need for an
>> assistance animal if the disability or disability-related need is readily
>> apparent or already known to the provider. For example, persons who are
>> blind or have low vision may not be asked to provide documentation of their
>> disability or their disability-related need for a guide dog."
>>
>>
>> Melissa R. Allman
>> Senior Specialist, Advocacy and Government Relations The Seeing Eye, Inc.
>> P.O. Box 375, Morristown, NJ 07963-0375 (mail)
>> 10 Washington Valley Road, Morristown, NJ 07960-3412 (deliveries)
>> 973-539-4425 ext. 1724,     Fax:  973-525-1081 mallman at SeeingEye.org
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Gallacher
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:52 PM
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>> Cc: Jordan Gallacher
>> Subject: [NAGDU] FHA question
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>> I have a question. Is it legal under the FHA for my landlord to be asking
>> for certification that Belto is a service animal?
>> Thanks,
>> Jordan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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