[NAGDU] FHA question

Danielle Ledet singingmywayin at gmail.com
Thu Sep 20 18:31:15 UTC 2018


She knows that. I did address that with her.

On 9/20/18, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Well, you roommate isn't even subtle. You know plenty about if she should
> or
> shouldn't. Tell her that you know the dog is not an ESA and that the dog is
> hostile to you.
> Cindy Lou
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:23 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
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> Cc: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FHA question
>
> My roomate brought  a dong in here, and she wants to get out of paying the
> pet deposit and monthly fee by declaring her a ESA dog. She pissed  me off
> when she said this. The dog barks and growls at me for no reason. It is
> either a hound or pit bull mix.
>
> On 9/20/18, Julie Johnson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> ESA's under the FHA are for in her home only. The fact that she
>> doesn't have
>>
>> it with her when she is out and about is what should be happening.
>>
>> I would think the barking should be handled like any other noise issue,
>> stereos up too loud, loud parties etc.   However you would address those
>> issues with tenants is how the barking should be handled.
>>
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?stor
>> eid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Janell via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:18 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: nellie at culodge.com
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FHA question
>>
>> We do have a Tennent that claims she needs an ESA dog and she provided
>> us with some ridiculous certificate she printed on-line.  She says she
>> is in dire need of this dog yet she never has it with her and we have
>> had complaints about the dog barking all day and night when she is
>> gone.  Now she told us she is also going to have an ESA cat.  I looked
>> up the laws in Wisconsin and sure enough she can have more than one
>> ESA animal and we can't
>>
>> say anything about it.  It is just her way of getting to have a pet.
>> I fully understand that there are folks who really do benefit from ESA
>> animals
>>
>> but in this particular situation it is not legit and we can't  do
>> anything about it.
>>
>> Just food for thought...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dan Weiner via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 11:00 PM
>> To: Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FHA question
>>
>> I know this isn't a helpful comment, but I wonder if all the folks
>> with illigit so- called service animals, folks who have pets and they
>> buy a certificate on line, or get their doc to write a note, have
>> indeed caused this problem to come in to being. I know a guy in my
>> area who literally got
>>
>> his doctor to write a note saying his cat is a service animal and then
>> he showed it to his apartment office as it's a no pets apartment or
>> something...so it does seem to be a more widespread problem then I
>> would have thought.  I was actually surprised he didn't at least have
>> the brains to keep that under raps but he seems to be telling everyone,
>> oh
> well, ..
>>
>>
>> The point is, if people with what would I call it, fake service
>> animals act
>>
>> all  official about it and show certification or supposed
>> certification to get away with stuff, then can you hardly blame the
>> uneducated public for asking about this stuff. I do suspect, though
>> it's total ignorance and probably the first thing that comes in to
>> their mind, the public that is, rather than anything based on misleading
> precedent.
>>
>> .I wish you good luck, Jordan, if it's not one thing it seems to be
>> another,
>>
>> right?--smile
>>
>>
>> Dan the man and Parker the nut
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/2018 11:30 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU wrote:
>>> Thanks for the responses. That is exactly what I thought. I am going
>>> to wait for them to ask again and decide how to handle it.
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 10:23 PM, Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Jordan,
>>>>
>>>> I own numerous properties in Wisconsin and it is 100% not okay that
>>>> your landlord is asking about Belto.  They can not only not ask
>>>> about him, they cannot ask for a separate pet deposit nor can they
>>>> ask for an additional monthly fee for a service animal.  They can
>>>> however get/ask/require any damages (if any) from any animal
>>>> (service dog or not) if there are any damages to the property.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps, Janell
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melissa Allman
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:21 PM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Melissa Allman <MAllman at seeingeye.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FHA question
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jordan. I've attached some guidance published by HUD in 2013
>>>> concerning assistance animals. It applies to both private and public
>>>> housing. Below
>>>>
>>>> is
>>>> some pertinent language from the memo I think you will find helpful.
>>>> Basically, no the landlord cannot ask for certification to prove
>>>> that Belto is a service animal. See below and attached:
>>>>
>>>> "However, a housing provider may not ask a tenant or applicant to
>>>> provide documentation showing the disability or disability-related
>>>> need for an assistance animal if the disability or
>>>> disability-related need is readily apparent or already known to the
>>>> provider. For example, persons who are blind or have low vision may
>>>> not be asked to provide documentation of their disability or their
>>>> disability-related need for a guide dog."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Melissa R. Allman
>>>> Senior Specialist, Advocacy and Government Relations The Seeing Eye,
>>>> Inc.
>>>> P.O. Box 375, Morristown, NJ 07963-0375 (mail)
>>>> 10 Washington Valley Road, Morristown, NJ 07960-3412 (deliveries)
>>>> 973-539-4425 ext. 1724,     Fax:  973-525-1081 mallman at SeeingEye.org
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan
>>>> Gallacher via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:52 PM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Jordan Gallacher
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] FHA question
>>>>
>>>> I have a question. Is it legal under the FHA for my landlord to be
>>>> asking for certification that Belto is a service animal?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jordan
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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