[NAGDU] Owner training

Fri Apr 12 19:19:23 UTC 2019

Good afternoon colleagues,

The below message is what I was talking about yesterday. We don’t need to further fuel fires by adding to them. I understand how we all feel about how Julie was treated, but there is nowhere on this list to continue fueling that kind of thread. The discussion here has been quite useful I think, but this message can only serve to create more anger. Please refrain. 

Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
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Cindy Lou Ray
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> On Apr 12, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Tami Jarvis via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jordan,
> 
> I'm an owner-trainer, but I hesitated to answer your original message because of attitudes I've seen from you before.
> 
> Since this message of yours is representative of the way you treat people who do go to the effort to answer your questions and provide information, you won't be getting anything from me.
> 
> If you decide to grow up and find some manners, that will be different.
> 
> Tami
> 
> On 4/10/19 3:58 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU wrote:> Then you are an idiot Julie and have not paid attention to the fact I ahd to
> > completely retrain Belto and the dog I had before him.  Lame idiot you are
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via NAGDU
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:39 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Julie Johnson <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Owner training
> >
> > I do, but you already knew that.  Owner training is...not for everyone, but
> > that sounds rather lame.   I think you have to have some very strong reasons
> >
> > for wanting to owner train and they really need to be intrinsic. Anger or
> > revenge or proving something to others  isn't enough mental fuel to carry
> > you through the owner training process.
> >
> > If you'd like to talk feel free to give me a call.  I think you have my
> > number, but if not send me a private email and I'll send it to you.  The
> > phone invitation goes out to anyone interested in owner training.
> >
> > I also host a free conference call every other Saturday and I am hosting a
> > second meet up in Kansas City over Memorial Day weekend.  It's also free,
> > scholarships are available, to anyone interested in owner training.  You
> > don't need to be an owner trainer to attend either the phone conference or
> > meet up.   You do need to be an owner trainer in some stage of the process
> > to qualify for the scholarship though.  Email me for more info,
> > julielj at neb.rr.com
> >
> > Julie
> > On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
> > http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
> > also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
> > <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
> > 16046>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 1:42 PM
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Jordan Gallacher
> > Subject: [NAGDU] Owner training
> >
> > Who on here owner trains? Looking into this option since schools se to think
> > my dogs having issues are my fault.
> > Jordan
> >
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