[NAGDU] video about guide dog user in Thailand

Tue Aug 13 14:46:53 UTC 2019

What happened before the White Cane laws? No idea about Canada, but it was not uncommon for blind people to be found at fault, regardless of any other circumstances, simply for daring to be out in the world and getting hit by a careless motorist. Because, you know, blind…out…it’s common sense that blind people shouldn’t be out alone, so obviously the blind person is at fault. So we needed some legal protections just to be out in the world. 

I forget exactly, but I believe the white cane, actually specified by color, was first recognized in Illinois. For some reason the early 1930’s come to mind, and I can’t remember where I saw the reference.

Another fun fact: in the UK, a white cane denotes blind, while a white cane with red tip denotes deaf-blind. 

Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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> On Aug 13, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 		T		hank you. 
> What happened before the white cane laws? And, how does the lack of them
> affect people in Canada? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike at michaelhingson.com <mike at michaelhingson.com> 
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 2:57 PM
> To: 'Star Gazer' <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the
> National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: RE: [NAGDU] video about guide dog user in Thailand
> 
> The "white cane laws" here in the U.S. refer to the laws passed by each
> state that affirm our rights to move about and in general have the same
> rights to live in society as do others. One of the main parts of these laws
> involve our right to use guide dogs in society.
> 
> In the late 1950s Jacobus tenBroek, founder of the National Federation of
> the Blind, worked on passing a national "white cane law". This did not
> occur,. I suppose, in one sense, one could say the current ADA serves as
> such a national law.
> 
> The lessons of history are important. I urge everyone to read the book
> "Walking Alone, Marching Together". In the U.S. it is available through BARD
> and it can be obtained from the National center in Baltimore. The advantage
> of getting the book from our center is that it includes live copies of many
> speeches and other events. The BARD version only has the reader reading the
> speeches. 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> Michael Hingson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> W	h			at is a white cane law? I really don't know.
> Are they not strong in Canada and if so, why not? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Mike Hingson via NAGDU
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] video about guide dog user in Thailand
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> Why should religion or anything else be the issue in Thailand except for
> what really is going on? It is no different than what we have experienced
> for years and still experience from time to time.
> 
> Simply put it is about the lack of education about blindness and the low
> expectations people in Thailand have about blind people. Since pets are not
> allowed in most places why should guide dogs be different? The average
> person even here in the U.S. still often call guide dogs pets. I encounter
> it often at hotels, restaurants and other places.
> 
> While some religious beliefs from some people may get in the way, the fact
> is that it is still about a lack of education. Is it religion in Canada that
> prevents the real strong white cane and guide laws we all think should exist
> there? While in Japan there are some guide dog schools is it religion that
> prevents strong legislation and policy from being enacted, or is it still
> low expectations about blindness that won't even permit any blind person to
> have the right to sign a legal contract because the belief is that blind
> people could be cheated?
> 
> Don't make the problem something that it is not. People worldwide have poor
> attitudes about what it means to be blind. It is and will always be a matter
> of education across all population lines to change this. 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> Michael Hingson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] video about guide dog user in Thailand
> 
> Thanks, Dan,
> I thought it was a neat video, and wasn't she delightful? I would really
> love to meet her. What is the prominent religion in Thailand? That is likely
> her biggest problem.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dan Weiner via NAGDU
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> Subject: [NAGDU] video about guide dog user in Thailand
> 
> 
> 
> and here is a video of Sai Techawongtham (sure I mispelled it) the guide dog
> user in Thailand mentioned in the article speaking for herself.  a
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T6zOqvxiFQ
> 
> 
> Enjoy.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
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