[NAGDU] Horrible Left Tendency

cindyray at gmail.com cindyray at gmail.com
Wed Aug 28 18:17:35 UTC 2019


Julie, I can see why you want to get to the bottom of it. Why is Billy Bob
acting like that? It is worse than originally, yes? It is kind of strange.

Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Horrible Left Tendency

Hi all,

This is such a great discussion!

To answer your question, no, I don't want my dog on the right because of
anyone's comments or criticisms.  That would likely make me not want my dog
on the right.  Lol  Just kidding, sort of...

I have begun traveling more in Washington DC, and the sidewalks there are
much wider than what I'm used to in Baltimore.  When we are in DC, Bill
pulls me so far over to the left that I lose people.  It's not a safety
issue to lose my friends, but it is not convenient at all.
Also, he nearly refuses to find doors and such that are on the right side,
choosing instead to keep me on the left side.  He does this in my office as
well, and he does play games with people, expecting them to get out of his
way so he can remain on the left side.  It's rude and not a behavior I would
like to encourage.

I like what Julie said about social norms.  I don't always need my dog to
stick to the right side exactly, but hugging the left walls makes me feel
off.

I think I will try teaching over right.  I anticipate it taking a little bit
for it to stick, but Billy Bob is an intelligent dog and will do it once he
is sown the value in what I'm teaching him.  Thank you.

Julie


On 8/28/19, Madison Martin via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi David,
> Can you please email me privately? I'm interested in applying to GDF 
> and I have some questions for you. My email is:
> maddymartin at mymts.net
> Thanks
> Madison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David via 
> NAGDU
> Sent: August-28-19 11:03 AM
> To: Sarah Calhoun via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David <david at bakerinet.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Horrible Left Tendency
>
> I know this has been talked to death, but I have a couple of new 
> observations.
>
> I understood that left-guiding is based upon the need to face traffic 
> when walking on roads where drivers drive on the right side of the 
> road, so that you are always facing traffic when walking on the road
without a side walk.
> GDF trains guides to walk on the left, but they also train the 
> commands, OVER RIGHT and OVER LEFT. I find it easier to just let 
> Claire Rose guide me from the left of the path, except in NYC.
>
> In NYC, I get body slammed when walking on the left at least twice, 
> often more, each block I walk. What I have found is that fast-paced 
> New Yorkers are very self-absorbed. When they sense, but don't look 
> at, someone coming toward them, they will move slightly to their left. 
> They apparently think that the person coming toward them will also 
> move a little to their left as well. When you don't, a collision occurs.
>
> When traveling in different countries, I have found that each culture 
> has its own rules regarding personal space. Who gives way to whom 
> depends upon where you are. Speed, angle of approach, and placement on 
> the walkway are all important aspects of this. Sometimes the rules 
> change on subways and stairways, in airports, performance venues, and 
> stores. Italy's rules are vastly different from Germany's. France's rules
are different from Spain's.
> I think a study would make a great Master's thesis, if it hasn't been 
> done already.
>
> *David in Clearwater, FL*
> *david at bakerinet.com*
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Julie A. McGinnity
MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
Performing Arts Division; First Vice President, National Federation of the
Blind of Missouri

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