[NAGDU] alternative lists and social media: was researching about getting a guide dog

sunshine halogirl817 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 28 21:55:32 UTC 2019 

I am on 5 guide dog lists! I concur with Michael!

Sunshine


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> On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I disagree with Cindy Lou. There are many such lists, guide dog related and otherwise. Social media while extremely popular are not used as widely as email and there is, in fact, a growing resistance to depending mostly on them. 
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> Best Regards,
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> 
> Michael Hingson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:10 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: cindyray at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
> 
> Well, I think that most of the lists are now on FaceBook. There may well be some others. I do think this kind of forum is sort of a thing of the past, though this one is still doing very well. There is also a NAGDU FaceBook presence.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of andrew edgcumbe via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:51 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: andrew edgcumbe <rollercoasterman86 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
> 
> i have not seen any guide dog email groups online guide dog email groups or email groups are  becoming thing a past outside of this it seems.
> 
>> On 12/28/19, sunshine via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I don't allow anyone to pet my Velvet when she is in harness! She's a 
>> social butterfly and I know that such attention would carry into her work.
>> 
>> For Christmas, I was at Charley's side of the family. Velvet would go 
>> to her crate if she didn't want to be bothered. I let her stay there 
>> because I knew she felt secure. She did enjoy the attention she 
>> received and liked playing with the babies and two dogs. I think she was glad to come home as well.
>> 
>> When I was with my stepdaughter riding a four-wheeler, Velvet was so 
>> secure that she didn't worry about where she was! It was our first 
>> time at the house and normally, I would have kept her on leash because 
>> of the new surrounding. However, because she took care of matters on 
>> her own, I was ok with people giving her attention and the petting didn't make a difference.
>> 
>> Each dog is different and limitations will vary with each dog. My 
>> little Lexie was a trooper. she was given attention but still worked like a charm.
>> She wasn't a social butterfly.
>> 
>> Velvet will be 4 in February and she has definitely matured. She does 
>> well no matter where she is! I think she would be concerned if I left 
>> her somewhere too long. Smile! Our journey has been a wonderful one 
>> and I surely enjoy her morning hugs!A
>> 
>> Sunshine
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone XR
>> 
>>>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 10:59 PM, d m gina via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My niece couldn't understand why I wouldn't let the dog be petted 
>>> all of the time in harness.
>>> I finally said, lets put a pillow case over your head and see how you 
>>> get around, then have to depend on someone else a cane or a dog.
>>> She got the hint.
>>> I also know if my dog stayed with them they would have her ruined in 
>>> five minutes.
>>> Feeding the dog people food all of the time.
>>> I finally shared, did you ever think, when we take the dogs to 
>>> restaurants if you feed the dog at home they would try to get into a 
>>> persons plate at the restaurant?
>>> Then they didn't think about that.
>>> Now this dog, going up to steps I have to go really slow so I don't fall.
>>> My feet hurt allot walking on gravel, so walking to the stairs, she 
>>> was quite slow.
>>> Way to slow for the family.
>>> We don't go to the home that often, so I didn't worry about it.
>>> I told them about the sore feet, and they had to just accept that.
>>> Had to laugh when you said you felt you were getting to old.
>>> Stay special and grow old together.
>>> Original message:
>>>> Well, I got a dog because it was beginning to hurt my right hand to 
>>>> use a cane. At first I wasn't comfortable with the dog, for people 
>>>> decided the dog made me more independent. These people had no idea 
>>>> what I had been doing.
>>>> I
>>>> got rather sick of people wanting to pet, wanting to talk to the 
>>>> dog, alking about the dog being my eyes, and acting as if the dog's 
>>>> ability to see made it my superior. Gradually, I came to enjoy using 
>>>> my dogs until the last one.
>>>> I had some problems with it wanting to hassle other dogs. Then I got 
>>>> refused a ride in an Uber. The driver was too cowardly to face me; 
>>>> he just saw the dog and drove off. I decided that I would just as 
>>>> soon kiss the whole hassle goodbye and going back to using a cane.
>>>> I went back to using a cane. Then people started rushing to tell me 
>>>> I was going to run into something when my cane would touch it and on 
>>>> and on. I came to realize through all this that using the dog and 
>>>> using the cane each had its own set of issues. Then I cane to 
>>>> realize I was missing using a dog.
>>>> The main two reasons are that I just love dogs and I walk straighter 
>>>> with a dog. I had thought I wouldn't get another dog because I'm 
>>>> getting old and was having trouble walking; now I am still getting 
>>>> old and having less trouble walking, so I am considering getting 
>>>> another. I haven't applied just yet because my last dog, when I 
>>>> retired it, I decided to keep. I had given the others away. I have 
>>>> now decided that I will most likely apply for another dog, but I 
>>>> will wait until this dog has died. He is 13.5 years old and still 
>>>> going strong, though there are subtle changes in him that are likely 
>>>> increasing.
>>>> If I were going to apply to a school, I would learn much about what 
>>>> the dog training school has to offer you with regard to dogs first.
>>>> Then I would talk to the ones I favored most concerning whether they 
>>>> have a mobility program. Also, while I was researching, I might find 
>>>> another way to get some O&M Skills.
>>>> I hope this makes sense.
>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>> 
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of andrew edgcumbe 
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:52 PM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe <rollercoasterman86 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
>>> 
>>>> Hi  I am just researching about the idea of getting a guide dog. I 
>>>> know it may or  may not be for everybody in a sence because of work 
>>>> involved. I like to hear about people's experiences and ask 
>>>> questions. I  know it is not for everybody but how do you really 
>>>> know for sure weather it is for you or not for you you might think 
>>>> as a non guide dog user that it may be an option but in a sence  may 
>>>> not fully realize what is involved.  I have been suggested by it i 
>>>> has been suggested by other people i should consider it and stuff 
>>>> like that in the past and think it would be good idea for me.
>>>> but
>>>> in last week or so I decided to start looking into it all on my own. 
>>>> I know you do need good o and m skills. i can walk at least 2 or 3 
>>>> roots myself.
>>>> What is your experience been like with a guide dog would you 
>>>> reckommend thatdog to those who feel like it would be an option to 
>>>> them?  Would you feel a guide dog has made you even more independent
>>>> over time did you find you were less independent without one?   like
>>>> could you compair if it made a difference or not in your life as a 
>>>> blind person.  and if you have a guide dog why did you even consider 
>>>> getting one?
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