[NAGDU] alternative lists and social media: was researching about getting a guide dog

Sat Dec 28 22:15:45 UTC 2019

I couldn't find guide dog groups when I did a search at all.  but some
might just only be for handlers or very restrictive though.

On 12/28/19, Madison Martin via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I'm on 4 guide dog lists, and I'd much rather use email then social media.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sunshine via
> NAGDU
> Sent: December-28-19 3:56 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sunshine <halogirl817 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] alternative lists and social media: was researching
> about getting a guide dog
>
> I am on 5 guide dog lists! I concur with Michael!
>
> Sunshine
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone XR
>
>> On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I disagree with Cindy Lou. There are many such lists, guide dog related
>> and otherwise. Social media while extremely popular are not used as widely
>> as email and there is, in fact, a growing resistance to depending mostly
>> on them.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:10 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: cindyray at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
>>
>> Well, I think that most of the lists are now on FaceBook. There may well
>> be some others. I do think this kind of forum is sort of a thing of the
>> past, though this one is still doing very well. There is also a NAGDU
>> FaceBook presence.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of andrew edgcumbe
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:51 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe <rollercoasterman86 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
>>
>> i have not seen any guide dog email groups online guide dog email groups
>> or email groups are  becoming thing a past outside of this it seems.
>>
>>> On 12/28/19, sunshine via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I don't allow anyone to pet my Velvet when she is in harness! She's a
>>> social butterfly and I know that such attention would carry into her
>>> work.
>>>
>>> For Christmas, I was at Charley's side of the family. Velvet would go
>>> to her crate if she didn't want to be bothered. I let her stay there
>>> because I knew she felt secure. She did enjoy the attention she
>>> received and liked playing with the babies and two dogs. I think she was
>>> glad to come home as well.
>>>
>>> When I was with my stepdaughter riding a four-wheeler, Velvet was so
>>> secure that she didn't worry about where she was! It was our first
>>> time at the house and normally, I would have kept her on leash
>>> because of the new surrounding. However, because she took care of
>>> matters on her own, I was ok with people giving her attention and the
>>> petting didn't make a difference.
>>>
>>> Each dog is different and limitations will vary with each dog. My
>>> little Lexie was a trooper. she was given attention but still worked like
>>> a charm.
>>> She wasn't a social butterfly.
>>>
>>> Velvet will be 4 in February and she has definitely matured. She does
>>> well no matter where she is! I think she would be concerned if I left
>>> her somewhere too long. Smile! Our journey has been a wonderful one
>>> and I surely enjoy her morning hugs!A
>>>
>>> Sunshine
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone XR
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 10:59 PM, d m gina via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My niece couldn't understand why I wouldn't let the dog be petted
>>>> all of the time in harness.
>>>> I finally said, lets put a pillow case over your head and see how
>>>> you get around, then have to depend on someone else a cane or a dog.
>>>> She got the hint.
>>>> I also know if my dog stayed with them they would have her ruined in
>>>> five minutes.
>>>> Feeding the dog people food all of the time.
>>>> I finally shared, did you ever think, when we take the dogs to
>>>> restaurants if you feed the dog at home they would try to get into a
>>>> persons plate at the restaurant?
>>>> Then they didn't think about that.
>>>> Now this dog, going up to steps I have to go really slow so I don't
>>>> fall.
>>>> My feet hurt allot walking on gravel, so walking to the stairs, she
>>>> was quite slow.
>>>> Way to slow for the family.
>>>> We don't go to the home that often, so I didn't worry about it.
>>>> I told them about the sore feet, and they had to just accept that.
>>>> Had to laugh when you said you felt you were getting to old.
>>>> Stay special and grow old together.
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Well, I got a dog because it was beginning to hurt my right hand to
>>>>> use a cane. At first I wasn't comfortable with the dog, for people
>>>>> decided the dog made me more independent. These people had no idea
>>>>> what I had been doing.
>>>>> I
>>>>> got rather sick of people wanting to pet, wanting to talk to the
>>>>> dog, alking about the dog being my eyes, and acting as if the dog's
>>>>> ability to see made it my superior. Gradually, I came to enjoy
>>>>> using my dogs until the last one.
>>>>> I had some problems with it wanting to hassle other dogs. Then I
>>>>> got refused a ride in an Uber. The driver was too cowardly to face
>>>>> me; he just saw the dog and drove off. I decided that I would just
>>>>> as soon kiss the whole hassle goodbye and going back to using a cane.
>>>>> I went back to using a cane. Then people started rushing to tell me
>>>>> I was going to run into something when my cane would touch it and
>>>>> on and on. I came to realize through all this that using the dog
>>>>> and using the cane each had its own set of issues. Then I cane to
>>>>> realize I was missing using a dog.
>>>>> The main two reasons are that I just love dogs and I walk
>>>>> straighter with a dog. I had thought I wouldn't get another dog
>>>>> because I'm getting old and was having trouble walking; now I am
>>>>> still getting old and having less trouble walking, so I am
>>>>> considering getting another. I haven't applied just yet because my
>>>>> last dog, when I retired it, I decided to keep. I had given the
>>>>> others away. I have now decided that I will most likely apply for
>>>>> another dog, but I will wait until this dog has died. He is 13.5
>>>>> years old and still going strong, though there are subtle changes
>>>>> in him that are likely increasing.
>>>>> If I were going to apply to a school, I would learn much about what
>>>>> the dog training school has to offer you with regard to dogs first.
>>>>> Then I would talk to the ones I favored most concerning whether
>>>>> they have a mobility program. Also, while I was researching, I
>>>>> might find another way to get some O&M Skills.
>>>>> I hope this makes sense.
>>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of andrew edgcumbe
>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:52 PM
>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe <rollercoasterman86 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
>>>>
>>>>> Hi  I am just researching about the idea of getting a guide dog. I
>>>>> know it may or  may not be for everybody in a sence because of work
>>>>> involved. I like to hear about people's experiences and ask
>>>>> questions. I  know it is not for everybody but how do you really
>>>>> know for sure weather it is for you or not for you you might think
>>>>> as a non guide dog user that it may be an option but in a sence
>>>>> may not fully realize what is involved.  I have been suggested by
>>>>> it i has been suggested by other people i should consider it and
>>>>> stuff like that in the past and think it would be good idea for me.
>>>>> but
>>>>> in last week or so I decided to start looking into it all on my own.
>>>>> I know you do need good o and m skills. i can walk at least 2 or 3
>>>>> roots myself.
>>>>> What is your experience been like with a guide dog would you
>>>>> reckommend thatdog to those who feel like it would be an option to
>>>>> them?  Would you feel a guide dog has made you even more independent
>>>>> over time did you find you were less independent without one?   like
>>>>> could you compair if it made a difference or not in your life as a
>>>>> blind person.  and if you have a guide dog why did you even
>>>>> consider getting one?
>>>>
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