[NAGDU] alternative lists and social media: was researching about getting a guide dog

sunshine halogirl817 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 28 23:24:51 UTC 2019 

Some are for handlers of specific schools. Others are not.

Sunshine


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> On Dec 28, 2019, at 4:17 PM, andrew edgcumbe via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I couldn't find guide dog groups when I did a search at all.  but some
> might just only be for handlers or very restrictive though.
> 
>> On 12/28/19, Madison Martin via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I'm on 4 guide dog lists, and I'd much rather use email then social media.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sunshine via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: December-28-19 3:56 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: sunshine <halogirl817 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] alternative lists and social media: was researching
>> about getting a guide dog
>> 
>> I am on 5 guide dog lists! I concur with Michael!
>> 
>> Sunshine
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone XR
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I disagree with Cindy Lou. There are many such lists, guide dog related
>>> and otherwise. Social media while extremely popular are not used as widely
>>> as email and there is, in fact, a growing resistance to depending mostly
>>> on them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 11:10 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: cindyray at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
>>> 
>>> Well, I think that most of the lists are now on FaceBook. There may well
>>> be some others. I do think this kind of forum is sort of a thing of the
>>> past, though this one is still doing very well. There is also a NAGDU
>>> FaceBook presence.
>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of andrew edgcumbe
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:51 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe <rollercoasterman86 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
>>> 
>>> i have not seen any guide dog email groups online guide dog email groups
>>> or email groups are  becoming thing a past outside of this it seems.
>>> 
>>>> On 12/28/19, sunshine via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I don't allow anyone to pet my Velvet when she is in harness! She's a
>>>> social butterfly and I know that such attention would carry into her
>>>> work.
>>>> 
>>>> For Christmas, I was at Charley's side of the family. Velvet would go
>>>> to her crate if she didn't want to be bothered. I let her stay there
>>>> because I knew she felt secure. She did enjoy the attention she
>>>> received and liked playing with the babies and two dogs. I think she was
>>>> glad to come home as well.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was with my stepdaughter riding a four-wheeler, Velvet was so
>>>> secure that she didn't worry about where she was! It was our first
>>>> time at the house and normally, I would have kept her on leash
>>>> because of the new surrounding. However, because she took care of
>>>> matters on her own, I was ok with people giving her attention and the
>>>> petting didn't make a difference.
>>>> 
>>>> Each dog is different and limitations will vary with each dog. My
>>>> little Lexie was a trooper. she was given attention but still worked like
>>>> a charm.
>>>> She wasn't a social butterfly.
>>>> 
>>>> Velvet will be 4 in February and she has definitely matured. She does
>>>> well no matter where she is! I think she would be concerned if I left
>>>> her somewhere too long. Smile! Our journey has been a wonderful one
>>>> and I surely enjoy her morning hugs!A
>>>> 
>>>> Sunshine
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone XR
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 10:59 PM, d m gina via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My niece couldn't understand why I wouldn't let the dog be petted
>>>>> all of the time in harness.
>>>>> I finally said, lets put a pillow case over your head and see how
>>>>> you get around, then have to depend on someone else a cane or a dog.
>>>>> She got the hint.
>>>>> I also know if my dog stayed with them they would have her ruined in
>>>>> five minutes.
>>>>> Feeding the dog people food all of the time.
>>>>> I finally shared, did you ever think, when we take the dogs to
>>>>> restaurants if you feed the dog at home they would try to get into a
>>>>> persons plate at the restaurant?
>>>>> Then they didn't think about that.
>>>>> Now this dog, going up to steps I have to go really slow so I don't
>>>>> fall.
>>>>> My feet hurt allot walking on gravel, so walking to the stairs, she
>>>>> was quite slow.
>>>>> Way to slow for the family.
>>>>> We don't go to the home that often, so I didn't worry about it.
>>>>> I told them about the sore feet, and they had to just accept that.
>>>>> Had to laugh when you said you felt you were getting to old.
>>>>> Stay special and grow old together.
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Well, I got a dog because it was beginning to hurt my right hand to
>>>>>> use a cane. At first I wasn't comfortable with the dog, for people
>>>>>> decided the dog made me more independent. These people had no idea
>>>>>> what I had been doing.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> got rather sick of people wanting to pet, wanting to talk to the
>>>>>> dog, alking about the dog being my eyes, and acting as if the dog's
>>>>>> ability to see made it my superior. Gradually, I came to enjoy
>>>>>> using my dogs until the last one.
>>>>>> I had some problems with it wanting to hassle other dogs. Then I
>>>>>> got refused a ride in an Uber. The driver was too cowardly to face
>>>>>> me; he just saw the dog and drove off. I decided that I would just
>>>>>> as soon kiss the whole hassle goodbye and going back to using a cane.
>>>>>> I went back to using a cane. Then people started rushing to tell me
>>>>>> I was going to run into something when my cane would touch it and
>>>>>> on and on. I came to realize through all this that using the dog
>>>>>> and using the cane each had its own set of issues. Then I cane to
>>>>>> realize I was missing using a dog.
>>>>>> The main two reasons are that I just love dogs and I walk
>>>>>> straighter with a dog. I had thought I wouldn't get another dog
>>>>>> because I'm getting old and was having trouble walking; now I am
>>>>>> still getting old and having less trouble walking, so I am
>>>>>> considering getting another. I haven't applied just yet because my
>>>>>> last dog, when I retired it, I decided to keep. I had given the
>>>>>> others away. I have now decided that I will most likely apply for
>>>>>> another dog, but I will wait until this dog has died. He is 13.5
>>>>>> years old and still going strong, though there are subtle changes
>>>>>> in him that are likely increasing.
>>>>>> If I were going to apply to a school, I would learn much about what
>>>>>> the dog training school has to offer you with regard to dogs first.
>>>>>> Then I would talk to the ones I favored most concerning whether
>>>>>> they have a mobility program. Also, while I was researching, I
>>>>>> might find another way to get some O&M Skills.
>>>>>> I hope this makes sense.
>>>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of andrew edgcumbe
>>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:52 PM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe <rollercoasterman86 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] researching about getting a guide dog
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi  I am just researching about the idea of getting a guide dog. I
>>>>>> know it may or  may not be for everybody in a sence because of work
>>>>>> involved. I like to hear about people's experiences and ask
>>>>>> questions. I  know it is not for everybody but how do you really
>>>>>> know for sure weather it is for you or not for you you might think
>>>>>> as a non guide dog user that it may be an option but in a sence
>>>>>> may not fully realize what is involved.  I have been suggested by
>>>>>> it i has been suggested by other people i should consider it and
>>>>>> stuff like that in the past and think it would be good idea for me.
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> in last week or so I decided to start looking into it all on my own.
>>>>>> I know you do need good o and m skills. i can walk at least 2 or 3
>>>>>> roots myself.
>>>>>> What is your experience been like with a guide dog would you
>>>>>> reckommend thatdog to those who feel like it would be an option to
>>>>>> them?  Would you feel a guide dog has made you even more independent
>>>>>> over time did you find you were less independent without one?   like
>>>>>> could you compair if it made a difference or not in your life as a
>>>>>> blind person.  and if you have a guide dog why did you even
>>>>>> consider getting one?
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