[NAGDU] Malls

Fri Feb 8 16:53:32 UTC 2019

You’ve gotten some good suggestions. I always make sure my dogs stick to the right side of the mall, so I can hear both the physical entrances of the stores but also be most likely to catch that signature  music or smell. Also the way I would travel through the mall depends a little on whether it is a one time excursion or whether I want to make it a point to learn the layout for future trips. If I don’t plan on going often, I typically wait to shop there until I am going with a friend or family member anyway as a social activity. In that situation, I will either follow the person, walk next to the person, or walk in front of the person while  they give me directions. 
If I want to get to know the mall, I take advantage of targeting. Both of my dogs really really enjoy not only structured targeting, but showing off by indicating places we have been to before weather in that specific mall or in other locations. It is actually really helpful when the dogs indicate familiar stores along the way because it acts as landmarks. Aira would probably be a great option to initially learn the mall. 
Danielle, Thai, and Jackie 

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> On Feb 8, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Melissa Allman via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I think Julie makes great points here. If you're working with your dog and not a cane and you're relying more on spatial and maybe a bit fewer tactile cues, hearing store openings, smelling the smells, and listening to the various types of music can be useful. Sometimes you can hear hangers moving around on clothing racks. My favorite was in class when I was sent to look for ... I forget what store ... and I ended up in the Verizon store. It had no music, not a lot of traffic, and a nondescript chemical smell so until the staff member told me where I was I wouldn't have had a clue. I'm not a mall fan and usually when I go it is an agreed-upon  social activity and specific shopping excursion so I tend to be with people anyway.
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> These ideas are from when I traveled with a cane and lived in a city with a mall.  No malls where I live now, but lots of country roads!
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> Anyway, I found it helpful to walk closer to the edges of the huge open areas.  I didn't need to be so close to shoreline the wall, but close enough to hear the echo.  Walking this close made it easier to hear when there was an opening indicating a store.  Also a lot of the stores play music unique to that store, different than what is played in the non store areas of the mall.  Some of the stores also have a identifying smell, the Victoria's Secret is the obvious one here, but some of the gift shops type places sell potpourri and other smelly things that can help and the food places are easy to locate.
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> When getting directions I found it the most helpful to ask at the customer service counter.  Malls have anchor stores, the really big department stores, usually located at the far ends of each hallway.  I had an idea of where these larger stores were so getting directions relative to these landmarks made it easier to get reasonably accurate directions.  Otherwise I'd only get directions based on visual landmarks that weren't helpful.
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> If you don't enjoy malls, have little interest in learning the layout and just want to get your stuff and get out, then I'd second AIRA.  Even if you'd like to relive your teenage years, AIRA could be really helpful in learning the layout to make future trips easier.
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> Happy shopping!
> Julie
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> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
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> You might explore Aira, www.aira.io.
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> Best Regards,
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> Michael Hingson
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> Subject: [NAGDU] Malls
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> I live in New Jersey, where we have some seriously big malls.  I want to get something at my nearest mall, but I really hate going there without a sighted friend.  It's a big, loud, echoing space, and I can't make much sense of it.  I recognize sometimes when we're going back from where we just came, but mostly we just trot along passing mysterious things, following my friend.  I did go once by myself, but it was hard to get anyone to give me coherent directions.  I eventually found what I wanted, but it was not easy.
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> I also want to go to a couple places at an outdoor mall-one of those places where the stores are in a big circle around a parking lot.  That's less confusing than an inside mall, but can I use GPS to find what store I'm close to, or isn't it specific enough for that?
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> Anyway, I'm wondering if people have strategies for dealing with finding things in really big, loud malls.
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> Tracy
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