[NAGDU] Broth/water

Peter Wolf pwolf1 at wolfskills.com
Fri Jan 18 23:49:58 UTC 2019


Hi all, 

I forgot one thing to mention if you make a surefire drinking broth.  When we do that, we add the powered freeze dried treat into the drinking container itself if using a gulpy, not in the storage bottle part.  That prevents contamination of the water source.  If not a gulpy, then a bike bottle or any bottled water bottle is fine for mixing the tasty broth.  We give the girls this immediately on landing at airports, and they gobble it right down.  In heat circumstances, I’d rather over hydrate than under hydrate, and this gives electrolytes in the process.  They might pee more, but it is worth it.  

Best,
Peter
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>   4. Re: Dogs in heat and cold (Melissa Allman)
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> That is so smart to do!  My friend has a Shepard and they took a trip to
> Florida a few weeks ago and he just gave his dog the hotel water.  After the
> third day they came back from dinner and Rubin had major, major, major
> diarrhea all over the hotel room!  Rubin was used to the well water at home
> and the big city water made him really sick!  Needless to say, they cleaned
> it up best they could and gave the cleaning lady a huge tip!
> 
> For sure a lesson learned the hard way!
> 
> -Janell
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
> 
> Mix your dog's water with bottled water. Changes in water can upset a dog's
> tummy both ways. I forget where we were but the water smelled like sulfur. I
> used the bottled water 50/50, and all was fine all week.
> Becky 
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
> 
> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling
> vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates or
> who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the Swamp
> Cooler from Ruffwear.
> 
> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie 
> 
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>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> What Julie says is great.
>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head 
>> and ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think 
>> it helps them cool down a bit.
>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right 
>> after a walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got 
>> inside before giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this
> problem, though.
>> 
>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie 
>> Johnson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads boots to keep off 
>> salt or ice melt products boots for added warmth, but I don't think 
>> these are needed until you get to truly artic weather  as in less than 
>> zero sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will 
>> stick to the pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and 
>> just the right temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping 
>> down causes a return to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots 
>> are an absolute necessity when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred 
>> dogs, a Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The 
>> Doberman wears a light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat 
>> with
> temps less than 20.
>> 
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips 
>> below freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes 
>> a bit of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull 
>> everything into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the 
>> opportunity to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a 
>> very dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I 
>> give my dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth 
>> or in circles around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will 
>> walk back and forth with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, 
>> increases circulation and increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the 
>> pavement
>> 
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in 
>> favor of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat"
> 
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep 
>> themselves cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This 
>> will be similar to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the 
>> paws oddly.  You can also put your hand on the pavement and hold it 
>> there for a slow count of ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will 
>> be
> okay for your dog to walk on.
>> 
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk 
>> pavement or
>> 
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, 
>> find a shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is 
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to 
>> have a good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this
> weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
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>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National 
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures 
>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 
>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and 
>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide 
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle 
>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate 
>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in 
>> extreme
> temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. 
>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good 
>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 10:28:10 -0800
> From: Peter Wolf <pwolf1 at wolfskills.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NAGDU] Dogs in heat and cold
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> Hi folks, a few helpful comments:
> 
> The water bottle with an attached drink tray that Lauren mentioned goes by the name of ?gulpy?, and there are also competitor brands.  We?ve tried the competitors and found that the gulpy is better.  Others might leak.    
> 
> We have found that our dogs don?t always want to drink when we think they should - and in fact we do believe they should because a little bit of ?water loading? is a good thing for extreme heat, flying, or other circumstances like that where we want to avoid dehydration.   
> 
> This may be a breed thing, because we have witnessed some extreme enthusiasm in other breeds like blacks or goldens by comparison.  I?ve mentioned this before, and think it is worth bringing back.  We have great success for getting some instant drinking by crushing up just a little bit of freeze dried food into the water to make a broth.  Anything would work, because it?s just for a little bit of meaty flavor.  But we use organic and otherwise high quality clean and well sourced food.  The two best brands we have found are these:  
> 
> ?  Primal Nuggets 
> ?  Open Farm
> 
> Just a little to flavor is fine.  But in the crush, little bits, that will be half or less the size of a pea are unavoidable, and that?s where the fun is.  They will go for them, having to drink all that water to get to it.  Fun and done! 
> 
> This heat thing was worth making a call to our vet team.  These folks are a step beyond as vets go in terms of specializations and full hospital,, ,and unfortunately but well worth diverting a mortgage payment when we?ve needed them.  
> 
> ?   We all know that the primary heat exchange is through paw pads.  If heat is getting overwhelming it?s best to get out of sun and dip paws in cool water.  There are lots of boots out there.  We prefer not to use rubber bottomed boots because they can get too hot.  And then, that means giving a little mosture to the feet in dry heat.  
> 
> ?  Moistening the head:  We have done this, and the vet confirms that it is ok.  But, if the heat is bad enough that it is affecting the dog, don?t just moisten the head?also fan it to cause cooling evaporation.  I carry a small hand fan, I mean the old fashioned kind that is a folding hand fan.  You can get them for a couple of bucks on amazon.  A little cloth, kerchief, or little piece of sponge is great for moistening, and the girls love it actually.   Between baths we clean their heads this way periodically.  
> 
> ?  The last thing is this.  I asked if it is ever extreme and the dog is distressed in heat, what about full body petting with an pocket sized instant ice pack, stroking down the body like a brush.  They said that would be fine for emergency cooling, but, only for about one minute.  
> 
> Cheers!
> Peter  
> 
> 
> 
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>>  3. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Danielle Sykora)
>>  4. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations
>>     (heather.l.bird at gmail.com)
>>  5. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Lauren Bishop)
>>  6. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Lyn Gwizdak)
>>  7. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations
>>     (Becky Frankeberger)
>>  8. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Julie Johnson)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:30:32 -0600
>> From: "Julie Johnson" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
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>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get to 
>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to the 
>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right 
>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a return 
>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity 
>> when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a 
>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a 
>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than 20. 
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below 
>> freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a bit 
>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull everything 
>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the opportunity 
>> to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very 
>> dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my 
>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles 
>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth 
>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and 
>> increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the pavement 
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor 
>> of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat" 
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves 
>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be similar 
>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can 
>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of 
>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk on. 
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement or 
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a 
>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is 
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a 
>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This means
>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in a
>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We want
>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> Vice President, NAGDU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>> 
>> "Speaking with Vision"
>> 
>> Michael Hingson, President
>> 
>> (415) 827-4084
>> 
>> info at michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>> 
>> www.michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>> 
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>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:47:55 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
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>> 
>> What Julie says is great.
>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head and
>> ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think it helps
>> them cool down a bit.
>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right after a
>> walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got inside before
>> giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this problem, though.
>> 
>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get to 
>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to the 
>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right 
>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a return 
>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity 
>> when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a 
>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a 
>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than 20.
>> 
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below 
>> freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a bit 
>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull everything 
>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the opportunity 
>> to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very 
>> dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my 
>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles 
>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth 
>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and 
>> increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the pavement
>> 
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor 
>> of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat" 
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves 
>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be similar 
>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can 
>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of 
>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk on.
>> 
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement or
>> 
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a 
>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is 
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a 
>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>> 16046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This means
>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in a
>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We want
>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> Vice President, NAGDU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>> 
>> "Speaking with Vision"
>> 
>> Michael Hingson, President
>> 
>> (415) 827-4084
>> 
>> info at michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>> 
>> www.michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:23:57 -0500
>> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates or who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the Swamp Cooler from Ruffwear.
>> 
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What Julie says is great.
>>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head and
>>> ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think it helps
>>> them cool down a bit.
>>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right after a
>>> walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got inside before
>>> giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this problem, though.
>>> 
>>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> For cold weather:
>>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get to 
>>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to the 
>>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right 
>>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a return 
>>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity 
>>> when it does.
>>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a 
>>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a 
>>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than 20.
>>> 
>>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below 
>>> freezing.
>>> 
>>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a bit 
>>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull everything 
>>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the opportunity 
>>> to get indoors.
>>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>>> 
>>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very 
>>> dangerous combination.
>>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my 
>>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles 
>>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth 
>>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and 
>>> increases warmth.
>>> For hot weather:
>>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the pavement
>>> 
>>> has heated up.
>>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor 
>>> of cool water.
>>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat" 
>>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves 
>>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be similar 
>>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can 
>>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of 
>>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk on.
>>> 
>>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement or
>>> 
>>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a 
>>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is 
>>> immediately coming to mind.
>>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a 
>>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This means
>>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in a
>>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We want
>>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>>> 
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>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:51:39 -0500
>> From: <heather.l.bird at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> I think that it is important to consider temperature changes. One thing I
>> noticed in Florida was that the temperature difference between the
>> airconditioned hotel and the outdoor temperature was extreme. I not iced
>> some dogs experiencing heat reaction symptoms within 10 minutes of being
>> outside. I also noticed some dogs shivering and actually being too cold
>> after transitioning indoors. We can wear a hoody in the hotel and chuck it
>> once wee step outside, or switch from jeans into shorts just before going
>> outside,, but our dogs have the same fur and fat layers across environments
>> and can't adjust so easily. I would suggest that in addition to the usual
>> suggestions regarding hydration, that people also allow a short grace period
>> to cut down on poor reactions to the heat. For instance, if you are going to
>> go and walk around the strip, bring your dog out into the heat and have them
>> stand or lay calmly for about 10 minutes getting used to the temperatures
>> before working them and walking briskly around outside. The reverse, when
>> coming inside, keep your dogs moving, blood moving and keep them warm, then
>> let them cool down slowly if you can, rather than transitioning from
>> moderate exercise in great heat, to complete inactivity in a cool or even
>> cold environment. Having a small fleece blanket, thin, but warm that you can
>> put over your dog when you first come in, then remove after 15 or 20 minutes
>> could also help ease the transition. When we were in Orlando for a family
>> vacation, I took my dog all over Universal Studios, Cape Kennedy Space
>> Center, etc., and she did fine. I think that this is because the house we
>> stayed in was moderately, but not super well air conditioned, and I did a
>> lot of walking in the very warm, but not hot mornings 7and evenings. Also,
>> before power walking around the parks at mid-day (Ilsa only has one speed
>> and it is fast) she 7spent time sitting or lying down in the shade while we
>> stood in line to enter the park, so she could warm up gradually. The
>> negative reactions I noticed were actually when we would come into very cold
>> airconditioned stores or restaurants and she would flop onto tile floors
>> then get some pretty serious shivers, necessitating me to get her up and
>> moving, cover her with a coat or rub her vigorously. It is a myth that being
>> cold, causes colds. However,, it is the fact of going from very cold to very
>> warm environments and visa versa that can affect the immune system. When I
>> was a voice major we were urged to bundle up in the cold and take off layers
>> one at a time as we come indoors, rather than roughing it in a coat and
>> boots, then tossing off the coat right away when coming into a building at
>> 75 or 80 degrees. Rather we were advised to wear coat, hat, scarf, gloves,
>> etc., then after coming in, remove the gloves, a few minutes later the hat,
>> then the scarf, and the coat last, and get dressed a few minutes before
>> leaving the building. A pain in the butt? Absolutely, but it worked, and for
>> voice majors for whom any congestion or a cold can be a huge problem, we
>> keep track of such advice and its effectiveness. In Florida, Ilsa often got
>> chilled after spending time outside then being asked to lay, motionless,
>> sometimes on a tile or linoleum floor. I learned to bring her in and walk
>> briskly around before going into a meeting where we would have to sit still,
>> and a few times I did cover her with a sweat shirt as an intermediate step.
>> It might also be worth warning those living in hot areas already, such as
>> Florida, that extreme humid heat feels different to our dogs then extreme
>> dry heat. A dog who walks short to medium length routes at mid-day in
>> Orlando, might still struggle with the exact same temperature in Nevada, in
>> a drastically lower humidity. Also, I don't know what the laws are regarding
>> smoking, but if it is allowed inside in Nevada, and you are coming from a
>> state, like NY, where smoking is allowed virtually nowhere, and you suddenly
>> have your dog in restaurants, casinos, etc., where it is allowed, they may
>> experience respiratory issues, especially when coupled with the desert dry
>> heat outside and the potentially very dry, recycled indoor air. Whenever we
>> visit NC where smoking is allowed in restaurants and such, Ilsa and my
>> previous guide did a lot of sneezing and had more eye and nasal discharge
>> after spending significant time in these environments. I hope some of this
>> helps. I think that these dogs are heartier than we often give them credit
>> for, and I hold firmly to the belief that a properly acclimatized and
>> hydrated dog can be reasonably asked to work in even very hot weather.
>> However, this assertion is absolutely predicated on the notion of vigilance,
>> intelligent informed decision making, and a willingness to change things up
>> if something you try does not work well. I do not believe in babying our
>> dogs, because then they become more of a hindrance than a help, but not
>> babying them does not mean ignoring their needs and just expecting them to
>> suck it up and deal with no help or caring from us. Ilsa and I walk 1 to 2
>> mile routes in 95 degree weather at mid-day in the summer, but she gets
>> water before, water after, and a climate controlled transition from cold to
>> hot and back again. Ilsa walks routes in the 10 degree winter, wearing
>> mushers secret and her sweater from On The Go, and sometimes we walk a
>> little extra around the bus stop to keep moving and keep warm, but I still
>> expect her to work, and I do my part to make it as safe and comfortable for
>> her as possible. I see posts on various lists where someone won't go out on
>> Monday because it is over 90 degrees, won't go out on 80 degree Tuesday
>> because it is raining, and won't take their dog out on the weekend because
>> it has dropped below 60 degrees, and on Wednesday they left their dog home
>> from the concert, (not a rock concert) because of their delicate ears, left
>> them home from the bar on Thursday because the rowdy people might stress the
>> dog out, and then on Friday they go to a festival without their dog because
>> the dog might scavenge something and get sick. I just have no patients for
>> this. Faced with similar: Ilsa would be kept well hydrated and work on the
>> 95 degree day, would get soaked, right along with me on the rainy day and
>> get vigorously towel dried after the walk, would sit far from the band at
>> the concert, would be placed in a safe out of the way spot under my chair in
>> the bar, would wear her gentle leader and be corrected to avoid scavenging
>> at the festival, and would be just fine in 55 degree weather on the weekend.
>> I just wanted to add this perspective, because on the back of lots of great
>> advice on keeping our dogs comfortable, healthy and safe, I think it needs
>> to be remembered that they are strong, healthy, well trained, adaptable
>> travel tools, in addition to being outstanding dogs, loving companions and
>> cute and furry cane alternatives.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 7:42 PM
>> To: Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi Michael thanks for your message. I do not have a guide dog, but I decided
>> to reply to this topic anyway. Keep your guide dog hydrated with lots of
>> water. Do not feed them salty foods. Be sure to park them regularly each
>> day.
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2019 7:36 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National 
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures 
>>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 
>>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and 
>>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide 
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle 
>>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate 
>>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. 
>>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good 
>>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC. 
>>> 
>>> "Speaking with Vision" 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check 
>>> on Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please
>> visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's 
>>> foremost animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit 
>>> http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:03:41 -0500
>> From: Lauren Bishop <laurenbishop96 at icloud.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> Good Morning All,
>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and access the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun is shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with her dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be much better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it is too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>> Sincerely,
>> Lauren 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:17:28 -0800
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak <gwizdaklyn at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Hi all. One thing not mentioned are the outings and tours offered to
>> convention goers. I have no idea of what may be planned. But I know these
>> would occur during the day. The convention planners, along with NAGDU,
>> might want to put reminder tips on this topic for the guide dog users. How
>> about getting volunteers to dogsit for those who dont want to bring their
>> dogs on the tours. There may be people from dog clubs, scout groups needing
>> to earn Community Service badges, church groups. Then you won't have dogs
>> being left alone in rooms.
>> 
>> Lyn and Aristotle
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:07 AM Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and access
>>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun is
>>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with her
>>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be much
>>> better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it is
>>> too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lauren
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:33:02 -0800
>> From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Mix your dog's water with bottled water. Changes in water can upset a dog's
>> tummy both ways. I forget where we were but the water smelled like sulfur. I
>> used the bottled water 50/50, and all was fine all week.
>> Becky 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 6:24 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling
>> vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates or
>> who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the Swamp
>> Cooler from Ruffwear.
>> 
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What Julie says is great.
>>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head 
>>> and ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think 
>>> it helps them cool down a bit.
>>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right 
>>> after a walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got 
>>> inside before giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this
>> problem, though.
>>> 
>>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie 
>>> Johnson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> For cold weather:
>>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads boots to keep off 
>>> salt or ice melt products boots for added warmth, but I don't think 
>>> these are needed until you get to truly artic weather  as in less than 
>>> zero sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will 
>>> stick to the pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and 
>>> just the right temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping 
>>> down causes a return to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots 
>>> are an absolute necessity when it does.
>>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred 
>>> dogs, a Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The 
>>> Doberman wears a light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with
>> temps less than 20.
>>> 
>>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips 
>>> below freezing.
>>> 
>>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes 
>>> a bit of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull 
>>> everything into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the 
>>> opportunity to get indoors.
>>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>>> 
>>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a 
>>> very dangerous combination.
>>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I 
>>> give my dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth 
>>> or in circles around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will 
>>> walk back and forth with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, 
>>> increases circulation and increases warmth.
>>> For hot weather:
>>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the 
>>> pavement
>>> 
>>> has heated up.
>>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in 
>>> favor of cool water.
>>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat"
>> 
>>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep 
>>> themselves cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This 
>>> will be similar to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the 
>>> paws oddly.  You can also put your hand on the pavement and hold it 
>>> there for a slow count of ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be
>> okay for your dog to walk on.
>>> 
>>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk 
>>> pavement or
>>> 
>>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, 
>>> find a shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is 
>>> immediately coming to mind.
>>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to 
>>> have a good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this
>> weekend.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com 
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?stor
>>> eid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National 
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures 
>>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 
>>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and 
>>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide 
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle 
>>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate 
>>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. 
>>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good 
>>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check 
>>> on Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please
>> visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> foremost animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit 
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>> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:29:34 -0600
>> From: "Julie Johnson" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> There are no longer tours offered during convention.  I haven't seen any for 
>> several years anyway.  Certainly people do go and do tours, but they are not 
>> organized by NFB.   I have seen some offerings through the travel and 
>> tourism division, or maybe it was someone who was associated with the 
>> division?, At any rate I have seen announcements for things before or after 
>> convention, but not as a part of convention as they used to be.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:17 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Lyn Gwizdak
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all. One thing not mentioned are the outings and tours offered to
>> convention goers. I have no idea of what may be planned. But I know these
>> would occur during the day. The convention planners, along with NAGDU,
>> might want to put reminder tips on this topic for the guide dog users. How
>> about getting volunteers to dogsit for those who dont want to bring their
>> dogs on the tours. There may be people from dog clubs, scout groups needing
>> to earn Community Service badges, church groups. Then you won't have dogs
>> being left alone in rooms.
>> 
>> Lyn and Aristotle
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:07 AM Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and access
>>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun is
>>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with her
>>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be 
>>> much
>>> better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it is
>>> too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lauren
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:10:04 -0500
> From: "Sandra Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dogs in heat and cold
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> Hi,
> 
> Peter, these are all good ideas.  When one of my golden retrievers had heat 
> stroke, my vet gave me another good suggestion.  He told me to take a 
> bandanna and get it wet.  Squeeze most of the water out, leaving it damp. 
> Then tie it around the dogs neck  .  He said that the blood  vessels are 
> very close to the skin on the dogs neck and the cool damp cloth will help 
> cool the blood lowering the dogs temperature.  You can also take the damp 
> bandanna and wipe the dog with cool water.  it will help to keep their body 
> cooler.  I always carry a bottle of water so I can wet down the bandanna and 
> dog when necessary.  Believe me, after the scare of Taffy having heat stroke 
> I will do anything to avoid my dog becoming overheated.  I also will often 
> stop and get a cold drink for myself and ask for a cup of chipped ice for my 
> dog.  That helps keep both of us cool and hopefully avoid being overcome by 
> the heat.
> 
> Just a funny thought as I write this.  It is the middle of winter and 
> freezing cold.  In the Midwest we are preparing for a bad winter storm 
> tomorrow and,  I know it will also hit many of you.  In the midst of winter 
> storm warnings,  here we are on the list, talking about too much heat this 
> summer.  Now I will get all bundled up and take Eva outside.  Unlike many 
> golden retrievers, Eva is not happy with the cold damp weather.  Oh and she 
> is not thrilled with heat and humidity either.  Be sure to keep you and your 
> dogs warm or cool wherever you are, Happy safe travels.
> 
> Sandra and Eva
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Peter Wolf via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 1:28 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Peter Wolf
> Subject: [NAGDU] Dogs in heat and cold
> 
> Hi folks, a few helpful comments:
> 
> The water bottle with an attached drink tray that Lauren mentioned goes by 
> the name of ?gulpy?, and there are also competitor brands.  We?ve tried the 
> competitors and found that the gulpy is better.  Others might leak.
> 
> We have found that our dogs don?t always want to drink when we think they 
> should - and in fact we do believe they should because a little bit of 
> ?water loading? is a good thing for extreme heat, flying, or other 
> circumstances like that where we want to avoid dehydration.
> 
> This may be a breed thing, because we have witnessed some extreme enthusiasm 
> in other breeds like blacks or goldens by comparison.  I?ve mentioned this 
> before, and think it is worth bringing back.  We have great success for 
> getting some instant drinking by crushing up just a little bit of freeze 
> dried food into the water to make a broth.  Anything would work, because it?s 
> just for a little bit of meaty flavor.  But we use organic and otherwise 
> high quality clean and well sourced food.  The two best brands we have found 
> are these:
> 
> ?  Primal Nuggets
> ?  Open Farm
> 
> Just a little to flavor is fine.  But in the crush, little bits, that will 
> be half or less the size of a pea are unavoidable, and that?s where the fun 
> is.  They will go for them, having to drink all that water to get to it. 
> Fun and done!
> 
> This heat thing was worth making a call to our vet team.  These folks are a 
> step beyond as vets go in terms of specializations and full hospital,, ,and 
> unfortunately but well worth diverting a mortgage payment when we?ve needed 
> them.
> 
> ?   We all know that the primary heat exchange is through paw pads.  If heat 
> is getting overwhelming it?s best to get out of sun and dip paws in cool 
> water.  There are lots of boots out there.  We prefer not to use rubber 
> bottomed boots because they can get too hot.  And then, that means giving a 
> little mosture to the feet in dry heat.
> 
> ?  Moistening the head:  We have done this, and the vet confirms that it is 
> ok.  But, if the heat is bad enough that it is affecting the dog, don?t just 
> moisten the head?also fan it to cause cooling evaporation.  I carry a small 
> hand fan, I mean the old fashioned kind that is a folding hand fan.  You can 
> get them for a couple of bucks on amazon.  A little cloth, kerchief, or 
> little piece of sponge is great for moistening, and the girls love it 
> actually.   Between baths we clean their heads this way periodically.
> 
> ?  The last thing is this.  I asked if it is ever extreme and the dog is 
> distressed in heat, what about full body petting with an pocket sized 
> instant ice pack, stroking down the body like a brush.  They said that would 
> be fine for emergency cooling, but, only for about one minute.
> 
> Cheers!
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>>  1. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Julie Johnson)
>>  2. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Tracy Carcione)
>>  3. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Danielle Sykora)
>>  4. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations
>>     (heather.l.bird at gmail.com)
>>  5. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Lauren Bishop)
>>  6. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Lyn Gwizdak)
>>  7. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations
>>     (Becky Frankeberger)
>>  8. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Julie Johnson)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:30:32 -0600
>> From: "Julie Johnson" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID: <2C8B4D7114C9461FBAA5426F57980E82 at JuliePC>
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>> 
>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get 
>> to
>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to 
>> the
>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a 
>> return
>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity
>> when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a
>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than 
>> 20.
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>> freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a 
>> bit
>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull 
>> everything
>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the 
>> opportunity
>> to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>> dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my
>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles
>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>> increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the 
>> pavement
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor
>> of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat"
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves
>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be 
>> similar
>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk 
>> on.
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement 
>> or
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a
>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This 
>> means
>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in 
>> a
>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme 
>> temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We 
>> want
>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> Vice President, NAGDU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>> 
>> "Speaking with Vision"
>> 
>> Michael Hingson, President
>> 
>> (415) 827-4084
>> 
>> info at michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>> 
>> www.michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>> 
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>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:47:55 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> What Julie says is great.
>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head and
>> ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think it helps
>> them cool down a bit.
>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right after a
>> walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got inside 
>> before
>> giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this problem, though.
>> 
>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson 
>> via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get 
>> to
>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to 
>> the
>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a 
>> return
>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity
>> when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a
>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than 
>> 20.
>> 
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>> freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a 
>> bit
>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull 
>> everything
>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the 
>> opportunity
>> to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>> dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my
>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles
>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>> increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the 
>> pavement
>> 
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor
>> of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat"
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves
>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be 
>> similar
>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk 
>> on.
>> 
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement 
>> or
>> 
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a
>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>> 16046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This 
>> means
>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in 
>> a
>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme 
>> temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We 
>> want
>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> Vice President, NAGDU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>> 
>> "Speaking with Vision"
>> 
>> Michael Hingson, President
>> 
>> (415) 827-4084
>> 
>> info at michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>> 
>> www.michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:23:57 -0500
>> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling 
>> vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates 
>> or who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the 
>> Swamp Cooler from Ruffwear.
>> 
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What Julie says is great.
>>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head and
>>> ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think it 
>>> helps
>>> them cool down a bit.
>>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right after 
>>> a
>>> walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got inside 
>>> before
>>> giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this problem, though.
>>> 
>>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson 
>>> via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> For cold weather:
>>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get 
>>> to
>>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to 
>>> the
>>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a 
>>> return
>>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute 
>>> necessity
>>> when it does.
>>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, 
>>> a
>>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than 
>>> 20.
>>> 
>>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>>> freezing.
>>> 
>>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a 
>>> bit
>>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull 
>>> everything
>>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the 
>>> opportunity
>>> to get indoors.
>>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>>> 
>>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>>> dangerous combination.
>>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give 
>>> my
>>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in 
>>> circles
>>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>>> increases warmth.
>>> For hot weather:
>>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the 
>>> pavement
>>> 
>>> has heated up.
>>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in 
>>> favor
>>> of cool water.
>>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs 
>>> "sweat"
>>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep 
>>> themselves
>>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be 
>>> similar
>>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk 
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement 
>>> or
>>> 
>>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find 
>>> a
>>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>>> immediately coming to mind.
>>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures 
>>> during
>>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This 
>>> means
>>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here 
>>> in a
>>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme 
>>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We 
>>> want
>>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good 
>>> information
>>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:51:39 -0500
>> From: <heather.l.bird at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> I think that it is important to consider temperature changes. One thing I
>> noticed in Florida was that the temperature difference between the
>> airconditioned hotel and the outdoor temperature was extreme. I not iced
>> some dogs experiencing heat reaction symptoms within 10 minutes of being
>> outside. I also noticed some dogs shivering and actually being too cold
>> after transitioning indoors. We can wear a hoody in the hotel and chuck it
>> once wee step outside, or switch from jeans into shorts just before going
>> outside,, but our dogs have the same fur and fat layers across 
>> environments
>> and can't adjust so easily. I would suggest that in addition to the usual
>> suggestions regarding hydration, that people also allow a short grace 
>> period
>> to cut down on poor reactions to the heat. For instance, if you are going 
>> to
>> go and walk around the strip, bring your dog out into the heat and have 
>> them
>> stand or lay calmly for about 10 minutes getting used to the temperatures
>> before working them and walking briskly around outside. The reverse, when
>> coming inside, keep your dogs moving, blood moving and keep them warm, 
>> then
>> let them cool down slowly if you can, rather than transitioning from
>> moderate exercise in great heat, to complete inactivity in a cool or even
>> cold environment. Having a small fleece blanket, thin, but warm that you 
>> can
>> put over your dog when you first come in, then remove after 15 or 20 
>> minutes
>> could also help ease the transition. When we were in Orlando for a family
>> vacation, I took my dog all over Universal Studios, Cape Kennedy Space
>> Center, etc., and she did fine. I think that this is because the house we
>> stayed in was moderately, but not super well air conditioned, and I did a
>> lot of walking in the very warm, but not hot mornings 7and evenings. Also,
>> before power walking around the parks at mid-day (Ilsa only has one speed
>> and it is fast) she 7spent time sitting or lying down in the shade while 
>> we
>> stood in line to enter the park, so she could warm up gradually. The
>> negative reactions I noticed were actually when we would come into very 
>> cold
>> airconditioned stores or restaurants and she would flop onto tile floors
>> then get some pretty serious shivers, necessitating me to get her up and
>> moving, cover her with a coat or rub her vigorously. It is a myth that 
>> being
>> cold, causes colds. However,, it is the fact of going from very cold to 
>> very
>> warm environments and visa versa that can affect the immune system. When I
>> was a voice major we were urged to bundle up in the cold and take off 
>> layers
>> one at a time as we come indoors, rather than roughing it in a coat and
>> boots, then tossing off the coat right away when coming into a building at
>> 75 or 80 degrees. Rather we were advised to wear coat, hat, scarf, gloves,
>> etc., then after coming in, remove the gloves, a few minutes later the 
>> hat,
>> then the scarf, and the coat last, and get dressed a few minutes before
>> leaving the building. A pain in the butt? Absolutely, but it worked, and 
>> for
>> voice majors for whom any congestion or a cold can be a huge problem, we
>> keep track of such advice and its effectiveness. In Florida, Ilsa often 
>> got
>> chilled after spending time outside then being asked to lay, motionless,
>> sometimes on a tile or linoleum floor. I learned to bring her in and walk
>> briskly around before going into a meeting where we would have to sit 
>> still,
>> and a few times I did cover her with a sweat shirt as an intermediate 
>> step.
>> It might also be worth warning those living in hot areas already, such as
>> Florida, that extreme humid heat feels different to our dogs then extreme
>> dry heat. A dog who walks short to medium length routes at mid-day in
>> Orlando, might still struggle with the exact same temperature in Nevada, 
>> in
>> a drastically lower humidity. Also, I don't know what the laws are 
>> regarding
>> smoking, but if it is allowed inside in Nevada, and you are coming from a
>> state, like NY, where smoking is allowed virtually nowhere, and you 
>> suddenly
>> have your dog in restaurants, casinos, etc., where it is allowed, they may
>> experience respiratory issues, especially when coupled with the desert dry
>> heat outside and the potentially very dry, recycled indoor air. Whenever 
>> we
>> visit NC where smoking is allowed in restaurants and such, Ilsa and my
>> previous guide did a lot of sneezing and had more eye and nasal discharge
>> after spending significant time in these environments. I hope some of this
>> helps. I think that these dogs are heartier than we often give them credit
>> for, and I hold firmly to the belief that a properly acclimatized and
>> hydrated dog can be reasonably asked to work in even very hot weather.
>> However, this assertion is absolutely predicated on the notion of 
>> vigilance,
>> intelligent informed decision making, and a willingness to change things 
>> up
>> if something you try does not work well. I do not believe in babying our
>> dogs, because then they become more of a hindrance than a help, but not
>> babying them does not mean ignoring their needs and just expecting them to
>> suck it up and deal with no help or caring from us. Ilsa and I walk 1 to 2
>> mile routes in 95 degree weather at mid-day in the summer, but she gets
>> water before, water after, and a climate controlled transition from cold 
>> to
>> hot and back again. Ilsa walks routes in the 10 degree winter, wearing
>> mushers secret and her sweater from On The Go, and sometimes we walk a
>> little extra around the bus stop to keep moving and keep warm, but I still
>> expect her to work, and I do my part to make it as safe and comfortable 
>> for
>> her as possible. I see posts on various lists where someone won't go out 
>> on
>> Monday because it is over 90 degrees, won't go out on 80 degree Tuesday
>> because it is raining, and won't take their dog out on the weekend because
>> it has dropped below 60 degrees, and on Wednesday they left their dog home
>> from the concert, (not a rock concert) because of their delicate ears, 
>> left
>> them home from the bar on Thursday because the rowdy people might stress 
>> the
>> dog out, and then on Friday they go to a festival without their dog 
>> because
>> the dog might scavenge something and get sick. I just have no patients for
>> this. Faced with similar: Ilsa would be kept well hydrated and work on the
>> 95 degree day, would get soaked, right along with me on the rainy day and
>> get vigorously towel dried after the walk, would sit far from the band at
>> the concert, would be placed in a safe out of the way spot under my chair 
>> in
>> the bar, would wear her gentle leader and be corrected to avoid scavenging
>> at the festival, and would be just fine in 55 degree weather on the 
>> weekend.
>> I just wanted to add this perspective, because on the back of lots of 
>> great
>> advice on keeping our dogs comfortable, healthy and safe, I think it needs
>> to be remembered that they are strong, healthy, well trained, adaptable
>> travel tools, in addition to being outstanding dogs, loving companions and
>> cute and furry cane alternatives.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via 
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 7:42 PM
>> To: Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi Michael thanks for your message. I do not have a guide dog, but I 
>> decided
>> to reply to this topic anyway. Keep your guide dog hydrated with lots of
>> water. Do not feed them salty foods. Be sure to park them regularly each
>> day.
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2019 7:36 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures
>>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100
>>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and
>>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle
>>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate
>>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea.
>>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good
>>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check
>>> on Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please
>> visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's
>>> foremost animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit
>>> http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:03:41 -0500
>> From: Lauren Bishop <laurenbishop96 at icloud.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> Good Morning All,
>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The 
>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be 
>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and access 
>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save 
>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun is 
>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical 
>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you 
>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with her 
>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering 
>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is 
>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be 
>> much better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if 
>> it is too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>> Sincerely,
>> Lauren
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:17:28 -0800
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak <gwizdaklyn at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Hi all. One thing not mentioned are the outings and tours offered to
>> convention goers. I have no idea of what may be planned. But I know these
>> would occur during the day. The convention planners, along with NAGDU,
>> might want to put reminder tips on this topic for the guide dog users. How
>> about getting volunteers to dogsit for those who dont want to bring their
>> dogs on the tours. There may be people from dog clubs, scout groups 
>> needing
>> to earn Community Service badges, church groups. Then you won't have dogs
>> being left alone in rooms.
>> 
>> Lyn and Aristotle
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:07 AM Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and 
>>> access
>>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun 
>>> is
>>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with 
>>> her
>>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be 
>>> much
>>> better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it 
>>> is
>>> too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lauren
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:33:02 -0800
>> From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> Mix your dog's water with bottled water. Changes in water can upset a 
>> dog's
>> tummy both ways. I forget where we were but the water smelled like sulfur. 
>> I
>> used the bottled water 50/50, and all was fine all week.
>> Becky
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 6:24 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling
>> vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates 
>> or
>> who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the Swamp
>> Cooler from Ruffwear.
>> 
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What Julie says is great.
>>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head
>>> and ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think
>>> it helps them cool down a bit.
>>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right
>>> after a walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got
>>> inside before giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this
>> problem, though.
>>> 
>>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie
>>> Johnson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> For cold weather:
>>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads boots to keep off
>>> salt or ice melt products boots for added warmth, but I don't think
>>> these are needed until you get to truly artic weather  as in less than
>>> zero sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will
>>> stick to the pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and
>>> just the right temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping
>>> down causes a return to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots
>>> are an absolute necessity when it does.
>>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred
>>> dogs, a Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The
>>> Doberman wears a light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with
>> temps less than 20.
>>> 
>>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips
>>> below freezing.
>>> 
>>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes
>>> a bit of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>>> everything into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>>> opportunity to get indoors.
>>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>>> 
>>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a
>>> very dangerous combination.
>>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I
>>> give my dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth
>>> or in circles around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will
>>> walk back and forth with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping,
>>> increases circulation and increases warmth.
>>> For hot weather:
>>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>>> pavement
>>> 
>>> has heated up.
>>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in
>>> favor of cool water.
>>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs 
>>> "sweat"
>> 
>>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep
>>> themselves cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This
>>> will be similar to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the
>>> paws oddly.  You can also put your hand on the pavement and hold it
>>> there for a slow count of ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be
>> okay for your dog to walk on.
>>> 
>>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk
>>> pavement or
>>> 
>>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation,
>>> find a shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>>> immediately coming to mind.
>>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to
>>> have a good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this
>> weekend.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures
>>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100
>>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and
>>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle
>>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate
>>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea.
>>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good
>>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:29:34 -0600
>> From: "Julie Johnson" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> There are no longer tours offered during convention.  I haven't seen any 
>> for
>> several years anyway.  Certainly people do go and do tours, but they are 
>> not
>> organized by NFB.   I have seen some offerings through the travel and
>> tourism division, or maybe it was someone who was associated with the
>> division?, At any rate I have seen announcements for things before or 
>> after
>> convention, but not as a part of convention as they used to be.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:17 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Lyn Gwizdak
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all. One thing not mentioned are the outings and tours offered to
>> convention goers. I have no idea of what may be planned. But I know these
>> would occur during the day. The convention planners, along with NAGDU,
>> might want to put reminder tips on this topic for the guide dog users. How
>> about getting volunteers to dogsit for those who dont want to bring their
>> dogs on the tours. There may be people from dog clubs, scout groups 
>> needing
>> to earn Community Service badges, church groups. Then you won't have dogs
>> being left alone in rooms.
>> 
>> Lyn and Aristotle
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:07 AM Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and 
>>> access
>>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun 
>>> is
>>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with 
>>> her
>>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be
>>> much
>>> better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it 
>>> is
>>> too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lauren
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> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:15:39 -0500
> From: Melissa Allman <MAllman at seeingeye.org>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'"	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dogs in heat and cold
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> The irony of this gave me a much-needed chuckle as I prepare myself for winter storms this weekend and hope for cleared sidewalks and crosswalks.
> 
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> Senior Specialist, Advocacy and Government Relations
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Johnson via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:10 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Sandra Johnson
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dogs in heat and cold
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Peter, these are all good ideas.  When one of my golden retrievers had heat
> stroke, my vet gave me another good suggestion.  He told me to take a
> bandanna and get it wet.  Squeeze most of the water out, leaving it damp.
> Then tie it around the dogs neck  .  He said that the blood  vessels are
> very close to the skin on the dogs neck and the cool damp cloth will help
> cool the blood lowering the dogs temperature.  You can also take the damp
> bandanna and wipe the dog with cool water.  it will help to keep their body
> cooler.  I always carry a bottle of water so I can wet down the bandanna and
> dog when necessary.  Believe me, after the scare of Taffy having heat stroke
> I will do anything to avoid my dog becoming overheated.  I also will often
> stop and get a cold drink for myself and ask for a cup of chipped ice for my
> dog.  That helps keep both of us cool and hopefully avoid being overcome by
> the heat.
> 
> Just a funny thought as I write this.  It is the middle of winter and
> freezing cold.  In the Midwest we are preparing for a bad winter storm
> tomorrow and,  I know it will also hit many of you.  In the midst of winter
> storm warnings,  here we are on the list, talking about too much heat this
> summer.  Now I will get all bundled up and take Eva outside.  Unlike many
> golden retrievers, Eva is not happy with the cold damp weather.  Oh and she
> is not thrilled with heat and humidity either.  Be sure to keep you and your
> dogs warm or cool wherever you are, Happy safe travels.
> 
> Sandra and Eva
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Wolf via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 1:28 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Peter Wolf
> Subject: [NAGDU] Dogs in heat and cold
> 
> Hi folks, a few helpful comments:
> 
> The water bottle with an attached drink tray that Lauren mentioned goes by
> the name of ?gulpy?, and there are also competitor brands.  We?ve tried the
> competitors and found that the gulpy is better.  Others might leak.
> 
> We have found that our dogs don?t always want to drink when we think they
> should - and in fact we do believe they should because a little bit of
> ?water loading? is a good thing for extreme heat, flying, or other
> circumstances like that where we want to avoid dehydration.
> 
> This may be a breed thing, because we have witnessed some extreme enthusiasm
> in other breeds like blacks or goldens by comparison.  I?ve mentioned this
> before, and think it is worth bringing back.  We have great success for
> getting some instant drinking by crushing up just a little bit of freeze
> dried food into the water to make a broth.  Anything would work, because it?s
> just for a little bit of meaty flavor.  But we use organic and otherwise
> high quality clean and well sourced food.  The two best brands we have found
> are these:
> 
> ?  Primal Nuggets
> ?  Open Farm
> 
> Just a little to flavor is fine.  But in the crush, little bits, that will
> be half or less the size of a pea are unavoidable, and that?s where the fun
> is.  They will go for them, having to drink all that water to get to it.
> Fun and done!
> 
> This heat thing was worth making a call to our vet team.  These folks are a
> step beyond as vets go in terms of specializations and full hospital,, ,and
> unfortunately but well worth diverting a mortgage payment when we?ve needed
> them.
> 
> ?   We all know that the primary heat exchange is through paw pads.  If heat
> is getting overwhelming it?s best to get out of sun and dip paws in cool
> water.  There are lots of boots out there.  We prefer not to use rubber
> bottomed boots because they can get too hot.  And then, that means giving a
> little mosture to the feet in dry heat.
> 
> ?  Moistening the head:  We have done this, and the vet confirms that it is
> ok.  But, if the heat is bad enough that it is affecting the dog, don?t just
> moisten the head?also fan it to cause cooling evaporation.  I carry a small
> hand fan, I mean the old fashioned kind that is a folding hand fan.  You can
> get them for a couple of bucks on amazon.  A little cloth, kerchief, or
> little piece of sponge is great for moistening, and the girls love it
> actually.   Between baths we clean their heads this way periodically.
> 
> ?  The last thing is this.  I asked if it is ever extreme and the dog is
> distressed in heat, what about full body petting with an pocket sized
> instant ice pack, stroking down the body like a brush.  They said that would
> be fine for emergency cooling, but, only for about one minute.
> 
> Cheers!
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
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>>  1. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Julie Johnson)
>>  2. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Tracy Carcione)
>>  3. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Danielle Sykora)
>>  4. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations
>>     (heather.l.bird at gmail.com)
>>  5. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Lauren Bishop)
>>  6. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Lyn Gwizdak)
>>  7. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations
>>     (Becky Frankeberger)
>>  8. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Julie Johnson)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:30:32 -0600
>> From: "Julie Johnson" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get
>> to
>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to
>> the
>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a
>> return
>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity
>> when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a
>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than
>> 20.
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>> freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a
>> bit
>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>> everything
>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>> opportunity
>> to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>> dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my
>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles
>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>> increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>> pavement
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor
>> of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat"
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves
>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be
>> similar
>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk
>> on.
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement
>> or
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a
>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This
>> means
>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in
>> a
>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We
>> want
>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> Vice President, NAGDU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>> 
>> "Speaking with Vision"
>> 
>> Michael Hingson, President
>> 
>> (415) 827-4084
>> 
>> info at michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>> 
>> www.michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:47:55 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID: <002b01d4ae6b$402cf990$c086ecb0$@access.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> What Julie says is great.
>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head and
>> ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think it helps
>> them cool down a bit.
>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right after a
>> walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got inside
>> before
>> giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this problem, though.
>> 
>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson
>> via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get
>> to
>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to
>> the
>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a
>> return
>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity
>> when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a
>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than
>> 20.
>> 
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>> freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a
>> bit
>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>> everything
>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>> opportunity
>> to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>> dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my
>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles
>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>> increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>> pavement
>> 
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor
>> of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat"
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves
>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be
>> similar
>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk
>> on.
>> 
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement
>> or
>> 
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a
>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>> 16046>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This
>> means
>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in
>> a
>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We
>> want
>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> Vice President, NAGDU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>> 
>> "Speaking with Vision"
>> 
>> Michael Hingson, President
>> 
>> (415) 827-4084
>> 
>> info at michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>> 
>> www.michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:23:57 -0500
>> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID: <5FB091C9-55B1-4BF8-8F34-DFC710847795 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling
>> vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates
>> or who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the
>> Swamp Cooler from Ruffwear.
>> 
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What Julie says is great.
>>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head and
>>> ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think it
>>> helps
>>> them cool down a bit.
>>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right after
>>> a
>>> walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got inside
>>> before
>>> giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this problem, though.
>>> 
>>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson
>>> via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> For cold weather:
>>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get
>>> to
>>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to
>>> the
>>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a
>>> return
>>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute
>>> necessity
>>> when it does.
>>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs,
>>> a
>>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than
>>> 20.
>>> 
>>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>>> freezing.
>>> 
>>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a
>>> bit
>>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>>> everything
>>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>>> opportunity
>>> to get indoors.
>>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>>> 
>>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>>> dangerous combination.
>>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give
>>> my
>>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in
>>> circles
>>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>>> increases warmth.
>>> For hot weather:
>>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>>> pavement
>>> 
>>> has heated up.
>>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in
>>> favor
>>> of cool water.
>>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs
>>> "sweat"
>>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep
>>> themselves
>>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be
>>> similar
>>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement
>>> or
>>> 
>>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find
>>> a
>>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>>> immediately coming to mind.
>>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures
>>> during
>>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This
>>> means
>>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here
>>> in a
>>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We
>>> want
>>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good
>>> information
>>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:51:39 -0500
>> From: <heather.l.bird at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID: <00bb01d4ae7c$89148c70$9b3da550$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> I think that it is important to consider temperature changes. One thing I
>> noticed in Florida was that the temperature difference between the
>> airconditioned hotel and the outdoor temperature was extreme. I not iced
>> some dogs experiencing heat reaction symptoms within 10 minutes of being
>> outside. I also noticed some dogs shivering and actually being too cold
>> after transitioning indoors. We can wear a hoody in the hotel and chuck it
>> once wee step outside, or switch from jeans into shorts just before going
>> outside,, but our dogs have the same fur and fat layers across
>> environments
>> and can't adjust so easily. I would suggest that in addition to the usual
>> suggestions regarding hydration, that people also allow a short grace
>> period
>> to cut down on poor reactions to the heat. For instance, if you are going
>> to
>> go and walk around the strip, bring your dog out into the heat and have
>> them
>> stand or lay calmly for about 10 minutes getting used to the temperatures
>> before working them and walking briskly around outside. The reverse, when
>> coming inside, keep your dogs moving, blood moving and keep them warm,
>> then
>> let them cool down slowly if you can, rather than transitioning from
>> moderate exercise in great heat, to complete inactivity in a cool or even
>> cold environment. Having a small fleece blanket, thin, but warm that you
>> can
>> put over your dog when you first come in, then remove after 15 or 20
>> minutes
>> could also help ease the transition. When we were in Orlando for a family
>> vacation, I took my dog all over Universal Studios, Cape Kennedy Space
>> Center, etc., and she did fine. I think that this is because the house we
>> stayed in was moderately, but not super well air conditioned, and I did a
>> lot of walking in the very warm, but not hot mornings 7and evenings. Also,
>> before power walking around the parks at mid-day (Ilsa only has one speed
>> and it is fast) she 7spent time sitting or lying down in the shade while
>> we
>> stood in line to enter the park, so she could warm up gradually. The
>> negative reactions I noticed were actually when we would come into very
>> cold
>> airconditioned stores or restaurants and she would flop onto tile floors
>> then get some pretty serious shivers, necessitating me to get her up and
>> moving, cover her with a coat or rub her vigorously. It is a myth that
>> being
>> cold, causes colds. However,, it is the fact of going from very cold to
>> very
>> warm environments and visa versa that can affect the immune system. When I
>> was a voice major we were urged to bundle up in the cold and take off
>> layers
>> one at a time as we come indoors, rather than roughing it in a coat and
>> boots, then tossing off the coat right away when coming into a building at
>> 75 or 80 degrees. Rather we were advised to wear coat, hat, scarf, gloves,
>> etc., then after coming in, remove the gloves, a few minutes later the
>> hat,
>> then the scarf, and the coat last, and get dressed a few minutes before
>> leaving the building. A pain in the butt? Absolutely, but it worked, and
>> for
>> voice majors for whom any congestion or a cold can be a huge problem, we
>> keep track of such advice and its effectiveness. In Florida, Ilsa often
>> got
>> chilled after spending time outside then being asked to lay, motionless,
>> sometimes on a tile or linoleum floor. I learned to bring her in and walk
>> briskly around before going into a meeting where we would have to sit
>> still,
>> and a few times I did cover her with a sweat shirt as an intermediate
>> step.
>> It might also be worth warning those living in hot areas already, such as
>> Florida, that extreme humid heat feels different to our dogs then extreme
>> dry heat. A dog who walks short to medium length routes at mid-day in
>> Orlando, might still struggle with the exact same temperature in Nevada,
>> in
>> a drastically lower humidity. Also, I don't know what the laws are
>> regarding
>> smoking, but if it is allowed inside in Nevada, and you are coming from a
>> state, like NY, where smoking is allowed virtually nowhere, and you
>> suddenly
>> have your dog in restaurants, casinos, etc., where it is allowed, they may
>> experience respiratory issues, especially when coupled with the desert dry
>> heat outside and the potentially very dry, recycled indoor air. Whenever
>> we
>> visit NC where smoking is allowed in restaurants and such, Ilsa and my
>> previous guide did a lot of sneezing and had more eye and nasal discharge
>> after spending significant time in these environments. I hope some of this
>> helps. I think that these dogs are heartier than we often give them credit
>> for, and I hold firmly to the belief that a properly acclimatized and
>> hydrated dog can be reasonably asked to work in even very hot weather.
>> However, this assertion is absolutely predicated on the notion of
>> vigilance,
>> intelligent informed decision making, and a willingness to change things
>> up
>> if something you try does not work well. I do not believe in babying our
>> dogs, because then they become more of a hindrance than a help, but not
>> babying them does not mean ignoring their needs and just expecting them to
>> suck it up and deal with no help or caring from us. Ilsa and I walk 1 to 2
>> mile routes in 95 degree weather at mid-day in the summer, but she gets
>> water before, water after, and a climate controlled transition from cold
>> to
>> hot and back again. Ilsa walks routes in the 10 degree winter, wearing
>> mushers secret and her sweater from On The Go, and sometimes we walk a
>> little extra around the bus stop to keep moving and keep warm, but I still
>> expect her to work, and I do my part to make it as safe and comfortable
>> for
>> her as possible. I see posts on various lists where someone won't go out
>> on
>> Monday because it is over 90 degrees, won't go out on 80 degree Tuesday
>> because it is raining, and won't take their dog out on the weekend because
>> it has dropped below 60 degrees, and on Wednesday they left their dog home
>> from the concert, (not a rock concert) because of their delicate ears,
>> left
>> them home from the bar on Thursday because the rowdy people might stress
>> the
>> dog out, and then on Friday they go to a festival without their dog
>> because
>> the dog might scavenge something and get sick. I just have no patients for
>> this. Faced with similar: Ilsa would be kept well hydrated and work on the
>> 95 degree day, would get soaked, right along with me on the rainy day and
>> get vigorously towel dried after the walk, would sit far from the band at
>> the concert, would be placed in a safe out of the way spot under my chair
>> in
>> the bar, would wear her gentle leader and be corrected to avoid scavenging
>> at the festival, and would be just fine in 55 degree weather on the
>> weekend.
>> I just wanted to add this perspective, because on the back of lots of
>> great
>> advice on keeping our dogs comfortable, healthy and safe, I think it needs
>> to be remembered that they are strong, healthy, well trained, adaptable
>> travel tools, in addition to being outstanding dogs, loving companions and
>> cute and furry cane alternatives.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 7:42 PM
>> To: Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi Michael thanks for your message. I do not have a guide dog, but I
>> decided
>> to reply to this topic anyway. Keep your guide dog hydrated with lots of
>> water. Do not feed them salty foods. Be sure to park them regularly each
>> day.
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2019 7:36 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures
>>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100
>>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and
>>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle
>>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate
>>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea.
>>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good
>>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check
>>> on Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please
>> visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's
>>> foremost animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit
>>> http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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>> NAGDU:
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>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:03:41 -0500
>> From: Lauren Bishop <laurenbishop96 at icloud.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> Good Morning All,
>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and access
>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun is
>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with her
>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be
>> much better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if
>> it is too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>> Sincerely,
>> Lauren
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:17:28 -0800
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak <gwizdaklyn at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> Hi all. One thing not mentioned are the outings and tours offered to
>> convention goers. I have no idea of what may be planned. But I know these
>> would occur during the day. The convention planners, along with NAGDU,
>> might want to put reminder tips on this topic for the guide dog users. How
>> about getting volunteers to dogsit for those who dont want to bring their
>> dogs on the tours. There may be people from dog clubs, scout groups
>> needing
>> to earn Community Service badges, church groups. Then you won't have dogs
>> being left alone in rooms.
>> 
>> Lyn and Aristotle
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:07 AM Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and
>>> access
>>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun
>>> is
>>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with
>>> her
>>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be
>>> much
>>> better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it
>>> is
>>> too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lauren
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:33:02 -0800
>> From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> Mix your dog's water with bottled water. Changes in water can upset a
>> dog's
>> tummy both ways. I forget where we were but the water smelled like sulfur.
>> I
>> used the bottled water 50/50, and all was fine all week.
>> Becky
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 6:24 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling
>> vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates
>> or
>> who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the Swamp
>> Cooler from Ruffwear.
>> 
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What Julie says is great.
>>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head
>>> and ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think
>>> it helps them cool down a bit.
>>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right
>>> after a walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got
>>> inside before giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this
>> problem, though.
>>> 
>>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie
>>> Johnson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> For cold weather:
>>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads boots to keep off
>>> salt or ice melt products boots for added warmth, but I don't think
>>> these are needed until you get to truly artic weather  as in less than
>>> zero sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will
>>> stick to the pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and
>>> just the right temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping
>>> down causes a return to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots
>>> are an absolute necessity when it does.
>>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred
>>> dogs, a Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The
>>> Doberman wears a light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with
>> temps less than 20.
>>> 
>>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips
>>> below freezing.
>>> 
>>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes
>>> a bit of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>>> everything into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>>> opportunity to get indoors.
>>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>>> 
>>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a
>>> very dangerous combination.
>>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I
>>> give my dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth
>>> or in circles around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will
>>> walk back and forth with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping,
>>> increases circulation and increases warmth.
>>> For hot weather:
>>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>>> pavement
>>> 
>>> has heated up.
>>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in
>>> favor of cool water.
>>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs
>>> "sweat"
>> 
>>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep
>>> themselves cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This
>>> will be similar to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the
>>> paws oddly.  You can also put your hand on the pavement and hold it
>>> there for a slow count of ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be
>> okay for your dog to walk on.
>>> 
>>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk
>>> pavement or
>>> 
>>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation,
>>> find a shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>>> immediately coming to mind.
>>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to
>>> have a good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this
>> weekend.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?stor
>>> eid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures
>>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100
>>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and
>>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle
>>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate
>>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea.
>>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good
>>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:29:34 -0600
>> From: "Julie Johnson" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> There are no longer tours offered during convention.  I haven't seen any
>> for
>> several years anyway.  Certainly people do go and do tours, but they are
>> not
>> organized by NFB.   I have seen some offerings through the travel and
>> tourism division, or maybe it was someone who was associated with the
>> division?, At any rate I have seen announcements for things before or
>> after
>> convention, but not as a part of convention as they used to be.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:17 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Lyn Gwizdak
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all. One thing not mentioned are the outings and tours offered to
>> convention goers. I have no idea of what may be planned. But I know these
>> would occur during the day. The convention planners, along with NAGDU,
>> might want to put reminder tips on this topic for the guide dog users. How
>> about getting volunteers to dogsit for those who dont want to bring their
>> dogs on the tours. There may be people from dog clubs, scout groups
>> needing
>> to earn Community Service badges, church groups. Then you won't have dogs
>> being left alone in rooms.
>> 
>> Lyn and Aristotle
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:07 AM Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and
>>> access
>>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun
>>> is
>>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with
>>> her
>>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be
>>> much
>>> better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it
>>> is
>>> too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lauren
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:14:09 -0500
> From: "Sandra Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dogs in heat and cold
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> Hi,
> 
> Peter, these are all good ideas.  I will have to get one of those water 
> bottles you mentioned.  When one of my golden retrievers had heat
> stroke, my vet gave me another good suggestion.  He told me to take a 
> bandanna and get it wet.  Squeeze most of the water out, leaving it damp. 
> Then tie it around the dogs neck  .  He said that the blood  vessels are
> very close to the skin on the dogs neck and the cool damp cloth will help
> cool the blood lowering the dogs temperature.  You can also take the damp
> bandanna and wipe the dog with cool water.  it will help to keep their body
> cooler.  I always carry a bottle of water so I can wet down the bandanna and
> dog when necessary.  Believe me, after the scare of Taffy having heat stroke
> I will do anything to avoid my dog becoming overheated.  I also will often
> stop and get a cold drink for myself and ask for a cup of chipped ice for my
> dog.  That helps keep both of us cool and hopefully avoid being overcome by
> the heat.
> 
> Just a funny thought as I write this.  It is the middle of winter and
> freezing cold.  In the Midwest we are preparing for a bad winter storm
> tomorrow and,  I know it will also hit many of you.  In the midst of winter
> storm warnings,  here we are on the list, talking about too much heat this
> summer.  Now I will get all bundled up and take Eva outside.  Unlike many
> golden retrievers, Eva is not happy with the cold damp weather.  Oh and she
> is not thrilled with heat and humidity either.  Be sure to keep you and your
> dogs warm or cool wherever you are, Happy safe travels.
> 
> Sandra and Eva
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Peter Wolf via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 1:28 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Peter Wolf
> Subject: [NAGDU] Dogs in heat and cold
> 
> Hi folks, a few helpful comments:
> 
> The water bottle with an attached drink tray that Lauren mentioned goes by
> the name of ?gulpy?, and there are also competitor brands.  We?ve tried the
> competitors and found that the gulpy is better.  Others might leak.
> 
> We have found that our dogs don?t always want to drink when we think they
> should - and in fact we do believe they should because a little bit of
> ?water loading? is a good thing for extreme heat, flying, or other
> circumstances like that where we want to avoid dehydration.
> 
> This may be a breed thing, because we have witnessed some extreme enthusiasm
> in other breeds like blacks or goldens by comparison.  I?ve mentioned this
> before, and think it is worth bringing back.  We have great success for
> getting some instant drinking by crushing up just a little bit of freeze
> dried food into the water to make a broth.  Anything would work, because it?s
> just for a little bit of meaty flavor.  But we use organic and otherwise
> high quality clean and well sourced food.  The two best brands we have found
> are these:
> 
> ?  Primal Nuggets
> ?  Open Farm
> 
> Just a little to flavor is fine.  But in the crush, little bits, that will
> be half or less the size of a pea are unavoidable, and that?s where the fun
> is.  They will go for them, having to drink all that water to get to it.
> Fun and done!
> 
> This heat thing was worth making a call to our vet team.  These folks are a
> step beyond as vets go in terms of specializations and full hospital,, ,and
> unfortunately but well worth diverting a mortgage payment when we?ve needed
> them.
> 
> ?   We all know that the primary heat exchange is through paw pads.  If heat
> is getting overwhelming it?s best to get out of sun and dip paws in cool
> water.  There are lots of boots out there.  We prefer not to use rubber
> bottomed boots because they can get too hot.  And then, that means giving a
> little mosture to the feet in dry heat.
> 
> ?  Moistening the head:  We have done this, and the vet confirms that it is
> ok.  But, if the heat is bad enough that it is affecting the dog, don?t just
> moisten the head?also fan it to cause cooling evaporation.  I carry a small
> hand fan, I mean the old fashioned kind that is a folding hand fan.  You can
> get them for a couple of bucks on amazon.  A little cloth, kerchief, or
> little piece of sponge is great for moistening, and the girls love it
> actually.   Between baths we clean their heads this way periodically.
> 
> ?  The last thing is this.  I asked if it is ever extreme and the dog is
> distressed in heat, what about full body petting with an pocket sized
> instant ice pack, stroking down the body like a brush.  They said that would
> be fine for emergency cooling, but, only for about one minute.
> 
> Cheers!
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
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>>  1. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Julie Johnson)
>>  2. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Tracy Carcione)
>>  3. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Danielle Sykora)
>>  4. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations
>>     (heather.l.bird at gmail.com)
>>  5. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Lauren Bishop)
>>  6. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Lyn Gwizdak)
>>  7. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations
>>     (Becky Frankeberger)
>>  8. Re: it's never too early to begin preparations (Julie Johnson)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:30:32 -0600
>> From: "Julie Johnson" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get
>> to
>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to
>> the
>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a
>> return
>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity
>> when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a
>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than
>> 20.
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>> freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a
>> bit
>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>> everything
>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>> opportunity
>> to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>> dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my
>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles
>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>> increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>> pavement
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor
>> of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat"
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves
>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be
>> similar
>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk
>> on.
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement
>> or
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a
>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This
>> means
>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in
>> a
>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We
>> want
>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> Vice President, NAGDU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>> 
>> "Speaking with Vision"
>> 
>> Michael Hingson, President
>> 
>> (415) 827-4084
>> 
>> info at michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>> 
>> www.michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 08:47:55 -0500
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID: <002b01d4ae6b$402cf990$c086ecb0$@access.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> What Julie says is great.
>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head and
>> ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think it helps
>> them cool down a bit.
>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right after a
>> walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got inside
>> before
>> giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this problem, though.
>> 
>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson
>> via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> For cold weather:
>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get
>> to
>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to
>> the
>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a
>> return
>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute necessity
>> when it does.
>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs, a
>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than
>> 20.
>> 
>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>> freezing.
>> 
>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a
>> bit
>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>> everything
>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>> opportunity
>> to get indoors.
>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>> 
>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>> dangerous combination.
>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give my
>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in circles
>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>> increases warmth.
>> For hot weather:
>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>> pavement
>> 
>> has heated up.
>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in favor
>> of cool water.
>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs "sweat"
>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep themselves
>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be
>> similar
>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk
>> on.
>> 
>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement
>> or
>> 
>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find a
>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>> 
>> 
>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>> immediately coming to mind.
>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>> 16046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures during
>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This
>> means
>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here in
>> a
>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We
>> want
>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good information
>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michael Hingson
>> 
>> Vice President, NAGDU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>> 
>> "Speaking with Vision"
>> 
>> Michael Hingson, President
>> 
>> (415) 827-4084
>> 
>> info at michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>> 
>> www.michaelhingson.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:23:57 -0500
>> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID: <5FB091C9-55B1-4BF8-8F34-DFC710847795 at gmail.com>
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>> 
>> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling
>> vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates
>> or who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the
>> Swamp Cooler from Ruffwear.
>> 
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What Julie says is great.
>>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head and
>>> ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think it
>>> helps
>>> them cool down a bit.
>>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right after
>>> a
>>> walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got inside
>>> before
>>> giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this problem, though.
>>> 
>>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson
>>> via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> For cold weather:
>>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads
>>> boots to keep off salt or ice melt products
>>> boots for added warmth, but I don't think these are needed until you get
>>> to
>>> truly artic weather  as in less than zero
>>> sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will stick to
>>> the
>>> pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and just the right
>>> temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping down causes a
>>> return
>>> to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots are an absolute
>>> necessity
>>> when it does.
>>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred dogs,
>>> a
>>> Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The Doberman wears a
>>> light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with temps less than
>>> 20.
>>> 
>>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips below
>>> freezing.
>>> 
>>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes a
>>> bit
>>> of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>>> everything
>>> into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>>> opportunity
>>> to get indoors.
>>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>>> 
>>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a very
>>> dangerous combination.
>>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I give
>>> my
>>> dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth or in
>>> circles
>>> around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will walk back and forth
>>> with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping, increases circulation and
>>> increases warmth.
>>> For hot weather:
>>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>>> pavement
>>> 
>>> has heated up.
>>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in
>>> favor
>>> of cool water.
>>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs
>>> "sweat"
>>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep
>>> themselves
>>> cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This will be
>>> similar
>>> to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the paws oddly.  You can
>>> also put your hand on the pavement and hold it there for a slow count of
>>> ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be okay for your dog to walk
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk pavement
>>> or
>>> 
>>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation, find
>>> a
>>> shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>>> immediately coming to mind.
>>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to have a
>>> good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this weekend.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures
>>> during
>>> the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100 degrees. This
>>> means
>>> we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and comfortable during the
>>> time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle the
>>> hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate here
>>> in a
>>> discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea. We
>>> want
>>> to get the most information that we can so we can provide good
>>> information
>>> for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check on
>>> Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's foremost
>>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:51:39 -0500
>> From: <heather.l.bird at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> I think that it is important to consider temperature changes. One thing I
>> noticed in Florida was that the temperature difference between the
>> airconditioned hotel and the outdoor temperature was extreme. I not iced
>> some dogs experiencing heat reaction symptoms within 10 minutes of being
>> outside. I also noticed some dogs shivering and actually being too cold
>> after transitioning indoors. We can wear a hoody in the hotel and chuck it
>> once wee step outside, or switch from jeans into shorts just before going
>> outside,, but our dogs have the same fur and fat layers across
>> environments
>> and can't adjust so easily. I would suggest that in addition to the usual
>> suggestions regarding hydration, that people also allow a short grace
>> period
>> to cut down on poor reactions to the heat. For instance, if you are going
>> to
>> go and walk around the strip, bring your dog out into the heat and have
>> them
>> stand or lay calmly for about 10 minutes getting used to the temperatures
>> before working them and walking briskly around outside. The reverse, when
>> coming inside, keep your dogs moving, blood moving and keep them warm,
>> then
>> let them cool down slowly if you can, rather than transitioning from
>> moderate exercise in great heat, to complete inactivity in a cool or even
>> cold environment. Having a small fleece blanket, thin, but warm that you
>> can
>> put over your dog when you first come in, then remove after 15 or 20
>> minutes
>> could also help ease the transition. When we were in Orlando for a family
>> vacation, I took my dog all over Universal Studios, Cape Kennedy Space
>> Center, etc., and she did fine. I think that this is because the house we
>> stayed in was moderately, but not super well air conditioned, and I did a
>> lot of walking in the very warm, but not hot mornings 7and evenings. Also,
>> before power walking around the parks at mid-day (Ilsa only has one speed
>> and it is fast) she 7spent time sitting or lying down in the shade while
>> we
>> stood in line to enter the park, so she could warm up gradually. The
>> negative reactions I noticed were actually when we would come into very
>> cold
>> airconditioned stores or restaurants and she would flop onto tile floors
>> then get some pretty serious shivers, necessitating me to get her up and
>> moving, cover her with a coat or rub her vigorously. It is a myth that
>> being
>> cold, causes colds. However,, it is the fact of going from very cold to
>> very
>> warm environments and visa versa that can affect the immune system. When I
>> was a voice major we were urged to bundle up in the cold and take off
>> layers
>> one at a time as we come indoors, rather than roughing it in a coat and
>> boots, then tossing off the coat right away when coming into a building at
>> 75 or 80 degrees. Rather we were advised to wear coat, hat, scarf, gloves,
>> etc., then after coming in, remove the gloves, a few minutes later the
>> hat,
>> then the scarf, and the coat last, and get dressed a few minutes before
>> leaving the building. A pain in the butt? Absolutely, but it worked, and
>> for
>> voice majors for whom any congestion or a cold can be a huge problem, we
>> keep track of such advice and its effectiveness. In Florida, Ilsa often
>> got
>> chilled after spending time outside then being asked to lay, motionless,
>> sometimes on a tile or linoleum floor. I learned to bring her in and walk
>> briskly around before going into a meeting where we would have to sit
>> still,
>> and a few times I did cover her with a sweat shirt as an intermediate
>> step.
>> It might also be worth warning those living in hot areas already, such as
>> Florida, that extreme humid heat feels different to our dogs then extreme
>> dry heat. A dog who walks short to medium length routes at mid-day in
>> Orlando, might still struggle with the exact same temperature in Nevada,
>> in
>> a drastically lower humidity. Also, I don't know what the laws are
>> regarding
>> smoking, but if it is allowed inside in Nevada, and you are coming from a
>> state, like NY, where smoking is allowed virtually nowhere, and you
>> suddenly
>> have your dog in restaurants, casinos, etc., where it is allowed, they may
>> experience respiratory issues, especially when coupled with the desert dry
>> heat outside and the potentially very dry, recycled indoor air. Whenever
>> we
>> visit NC where smoking is allowed in restaurants and such, Ilsa and my
>> previous guide did a lot of sneezing and had more eye and nasal discharge
>> after spending significant time in these environments. I hope some of this
>> helps. I think that these dogs are heartier than we often give them credit
>> for, and I hold firmly to the belief that a properly acclimatized and
>> hydrated dog can be reasonably asked to work in even very hot weather.
>> However, this assertion is absolutely predicated on the notion of
>> vigilance,
>> intelligent informed decision making, and a willingness to change things
>> up
>> if something you try does not work well. I do not believe in babying our
>> dogs, because then they become more of a hindrance than a help, but not
>> babying them does not mean ignoring their needs and just expecting them to
>> suck it up and deal with no help or caring from us. Ilsa and I walk 1 to 2
>> mile routes in 95 degree weather at mid-day in the summer, but she gets
>> water before, water after, and a climate controlled transition from cold
>> to
>> hot and back again. Ilsa walks routes in the 10 degree winter, wearing
>> mushers secret and her sweater from On The Go, and sometimes we walk a
>> little extra around the bus stop to keep moving and keep warm, but I still
>> expect her to work, and I do my part to make it as safe and comfortable
>> for
>> her as possible. I see posts on various lists where someone won't go out
>> on
>> Monday because it is over 90 degrees, won't go out on 80 degree Tuesday
>> because it is raining, and won't take their dog out on the weekend because
>> it has dropped below 60 degrees, and on Wednesday they left their dog home
>> from the concert, (not a rock concert) because of their delicate ears,
>> left
>> them home from the bar on Thursday because the rowdy people might stress
>> the
>> dog out, and then on Friday they go to a festival without their dog
>> because
>> the dog might scavenge something and get sick. I just have no patients for
>> this. Faced with similar: Ilsa would be kept well hydrated and work on the
>> 95 degree day, would get soaked, right along with me on the rainy day and
>> get vigorously towel dried after the walk, would sit far from the band at
>> the concert, would be placed in a safe out of the way spot under my chair
>> in
>> the bar, would wear her gentle leader and be corrected to avoid scavenging
>> at the festival, and would be just fine in 55 degree weather on the
>> weekend.
>> I just wanted to add this perspective, because on the back of lots of
>> great
>> advice on keeping our dogs comfortable, healthy and safe, I think it needs
>> to be remembered that they are strong, healthy, well trained, adaptable
>> travel tools, in addition to being outstanding dogs, loving companions and
>> cute and furry cane alternatives.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Roanna Bacchus via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 7:42 PM
>> To: Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi Michael thanks for your message. I do not have a guide dog, but I
>> decided
>> to reply to this topic anyway. Keep your guide dog hydrated with lots of
>> water. Do not feed them salty foods. Be sure to park them regularly each
>> day.
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2019 7:36 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures
>>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100
>>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and
>>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle
>>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate
>>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea.
>>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good
>>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>> visit:
>>> 
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:03:41 -0500
>> From: Lauren Bishop <laurenbishop96 at icloud.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> Good Morning All,
>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and access
>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun is
>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with her
>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be
>> much better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if
>> it is too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>> Sincerely,
>> Lauren
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:17:28 -0800
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak <gwizdaklyn at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Hi all. One thing not mentioned are the outings and tours offered to
>> convention goers. I have no idea of what may be planned. But I know these
>> would occur during the day. The convention planners, along with NAGDU,
>> might want to put reminder tips on this topic for the guide dog users. How
>> about getting volunteers to dogsit for those who dont want to bring their
>> dogs on the tours. There may be people from dog clubs, scout groups
>> needing
>> to earn Community Service badges, church groups. Then you won't have dogs
>> being left alone in rooms.
>> 
>> Lyn and Aristotle
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:07 AM Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and
>>> access
>>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun
>>> is
>>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with
>>> her
>>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be
>>> much
>>> better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it
>>> is
>>> too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lauren
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 16:33:02 -0800
>> From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> Message-ID: <011e01d4aec5$6003a930$200afb90$@comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Mix your dog's water with bottled water. Changes in water can upset a
>> dog's
>> tummy both ways. I forget where we were but the water smelled like sulfur.
>> I
>> used the bottled water 50/50, and all was fine all week.
>> Becky
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 6:24 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> All great suggestions. The only other thing I can think of is a cooling
>> vest. This would be most useful for people who live in very warm climates
>> or
>> who need to be outside in the heat for extended periods. I have the Swamp
>> Cooler from Ruffwear.
>> 
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What Julie says is great.
>>> I will add that I sometimes put a bit of cool water on my dog's head
>>> and ears when we're out in the heat.  They don't like it, but I think
>>> it helps them cool down a bit.
>>> Also, I had a dog who would throw up if she got a cool drink right
>>> after a walk in the heat, so I had to wait a few minutes after we got
>>> inside before giving her water.  None of my other dogs have had this
>> problem, though.
>>> 
>>> It's nice to think about being warm, on this frigid day.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie
>>> Johnson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:31 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> For cold weather:
>>> paw wax, like Musher's Secret, to protect paw pads boots to keep off
>>> salt or ice melt products boots for added warmth, but I don't think
>>> these are needed until you get to truly artic weather  as in less than
>>> zero sometimes, depending on weather conditions, my dog's feet will
>>> stick to the pavement.  There has to be some sort of ice or snow and
>>> just the right temperature that their feet melt it a bit but stepping
>>> down causes a return to freezing.  It doesn't happen often, but boots
>>> are an absolute necessity when it does.
>>> Depending on the dog, a sweater or coat.  I have very short furred
>>> dogs, a Boxer mix and a Doberman, so coats are a necessity.  The
>>> Doberman wears a light coat at temps less than 40 and a heavier coat with
>> temps less than 20.
>>> 
>>> The Boxer mix is okay until about 30 and gets his coat when it dips
>>> below freezing.
>>> 
>>> Signs of a dog being uncomfortably cold:
>>> curling inward, which includes tail tucking, head lowering, sometimes
>>> a bit of arching the back.  It's like when we are cold and try to pull
>>> everything into the middle of our body to keep warm.
>>> Shivering is a pretty obvious sign of being cold.
>>> Whining or similar sounds of discomfort.
>>> Reluctance about going outside.  Increased speed when given the
>>> opportunity to get indoors.
>>> Dancing or lifting the paws oddly.
>>> 
>>> Avoid letting your dog get wet when it is cold.  Cold plus wet is a
>>> very dangerous combination.
>>> Keep moving.  Even when I am outside waiting for transportation, I
>>> give my dog a bit of leash and encourage them to walk back and forth
>>> or in circles around me.  If they are confused or reluctant, I will
>>> walk back and forth with them. Moving keeps the blood pumping,
>>> increases circulation and increases warmth.
>>> For hot weather:
>>> Try to plan long outings during the beginning of the day before the
>>> pavement
>>> 
>>> has heated up.
>>> Provide more opportunities for water.  Avoid super icy cold water in
>>> favor of cool water.
>>> Use boots only if your dog shows discomfort on the pavement.  Dogs
>>> "sweat"
>> 
>>> through their feet. If at all possible, let them naturally keep
>>> themselves cool.  To determine if a dog is uncomfortable walking: This
>>> will be similar to the cold weather tips, dancing or lifting up the
>>> paws oddly.  You can also put your hand on the pavement and hold it
>>> there for a slow count of ten.  If you can do this, the pavement will be
>> okay for your dog to walk on.
>>> 
>>> Avoid blacktop surfaces as they are hotter than typical sidewalk
>>> pavement or
>>> 
>>> brick.  Blacktop is most often found in parking lots.
>>> If you need to stand in one place, like waiting for transportation,
>>> find a shady spot or step off into the grass if possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There's probably lots more, but it's early and this is all that is
>>> immediately coming to mind.
>>> I look forward to what others will contribute.  We are expected to
>>> have a good amount of snow and temps significantly below zero this
>> weekend.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?stor
>>> eid=19
>>> 16046>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mike Hingson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:36 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: mike at michaelhingson.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As you probably know, our National Federation of the Blind National
>>> convention will be held this July in Las Vegas Nevada. Temperatures
>>> during the day, and most likely at night too, will be over 100
>>> degrees. This means we need to prepare to keep our guide dogs safe and
>>> comfortable during the time we are in Las Vegas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are planning to write an article for the Braille Monitor to provide
>>> people with helpful and relevant information concerning how to handle
>>> the hot temperatures with our guides. I am inviting you to participate
>>> here in a discussion of what you do to keep your guides safe in extreme
>> temperatures.
>>> Let's talk about both hot and cold situations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All relevant ideas and thoughts are welcome. There is no wrong idea.
>>> We want to get the most information that we can so we can provide good
>>> information for all convention goers who bring their guides.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> Vice President, NAGDU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>> 
>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>> 
>>> (415) 827-4084
>>> 
>>> info at michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Running With Roselle, and check
>>> on Michael Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please
>> visit:
>>> 
>>> www.michaelhingson.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's
>>> foremost animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit
>>> http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
>>> 
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 05:29:34 -0600
>> From: "Julie Johnson" <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
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>> 
>> There are no longer tours offered during convention.  I haven't seen any
>> for
>> several years anyway.  Certainly people do go and do tours, but they are
>> not
>> organized by NFB.   I have seen some offerings through the travel and
>> tourism division, or maybe it was someone who was associated with the
>> division?, At any rate I have seen announcements for things before or
>> after
>> convention, but not as a part of convention as they used to be.
>> 
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Lyn Gwizdak via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:17 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Lyn Gwizdak
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] it's never too early to begin preparations
>> 
>> Hi all. One thing not mentioned are the outings and tours offered to
>> convention goers. I have no idea of what may be planned. But I know these
>> would occur during the day. The convention planners, along with NAGDU,
>> might want to put reminder tips on this topic for the guide dog users. How
>> about getting volunteers to dogsit for those who dont want to bring their
>> dogs on the tours. There may be people from dog clubs, scout groups
>> needing
>> to earn Community Service badges, church groups. Then you won't have dogs
>> being left alone in rooms.
>> 
>> Lyn and Aristotle
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 8:07 AM Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> I have traveled to Vegas; however, this will be my first with a dog.  The
>>> cool thing about the strip is that many of the hotels seemed to be
>>> connected with each other, so you could walk through the hotels and
>>> access
>>> the shopping that way.  Also, Vegas literally never sleeps, so maybe save
>>> the walking outside for night time.  It won?t be as hot because the sun
>>> is
>>> shining.  Also, I have a dog water bottle, which looks like the typical
>>> sports bottle, except their is a little bowl on the lid, so when you
>>> squeeze the bottle, it fills up the bowl.  I would use this along with
>>> her
>>> dog boots.  Also, in the talk of preparedness, I would start considering
>>> setting some money aside for cabs or ride shares.  If your dog is
>>> overheated, and you want to get back to the hotel, you are going to be
>>> much
>>> better off in the long run if you splurge for the ride.  Finally, if it
>>> is
>>> too hot for you, it is most certainly too hot for your dog.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Lauren
>>> _______________________________________________
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