[NAGDU] Convention

[David Andrews]

Yes, on the globe 195 again.

Dave

At 02:05 PM 6/28/2019, you wrote:
>Will NFB be broadcasting on tunein? Sunshine 
>Sent from my iPhone XR > On Jun 28, 2019, at 
>10:22 AM, sheila.leigland--- via NAGDU 
><nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > hi, michael have 
>any arrangements been made about getting dog 
>food delivered to the national convention or is 
>there even a way to do that? thanks much. > >> 
>On 6/15/2019 7:04 PM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU 
>wrote: >> Download the agenda from the NFB.org 
>convention web page. Descriptions of relieving 
>locations are included. >> >> >> Best 
>Regards, >> >> >> Michael Hingson >> >> 
>-----Original Message----- >> From: Martine Abel 
><martine.the1 at xtra.co.nz> >> Sent: Saturday, 
>June 15, 2019 5:32 PM >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing 
>List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >> Cc: 
>mike at michaelhingson.com; 'Marie Villaneda' 
><Marie.JV at outlook.com> >> Subject: RE: [NAGDU] 
>Convention >> >> Hi all, what's the set up at 
>Convention re where we ccan (as you Americans 
>call it) park our dogs? >> Cheers >> 
>Martine >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> 
>From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>Behalf Of Mike Hingson via NAGDU >> Sent: 
>Sunday, 16 June 2019 9:22 a.m. >> To: 'NAGDU 
>Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
>Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >> Cc: 
>mike at michaelhingson.com; 'Marie Villaneda' 
><Marie.JV at outlook.com> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] 
>Convention >> >> Hi, >> >> Lots of thoughts. 
>First and foremost, give extra praise regularly 
>while you are at the convention with your guide. 
>There will be lots and lots of people who will 
>not be paying as good attention as they should 
>while they travel. They will bump into you and 
>your dog. You need to remain calm and encourage 
>your guide, not become fearful, angry or upset. 
>Your dog is looking to you always for 
>support. >> >> For many years I did not take a 
>guide dog to our National conventions due to the 
>poor travel skills of others at the convention. 
>Many years ago, however, I changed my opinion 
>and began taking guide dogs to the conventions. 
>Perhaps it was my experiences at the World Trade 
>Center on September 11, but I realized that 
>praise, encouragement and support for my dogs 
>kept them focused and working successfully. You 
>keep following all the lessons you learned when 
>you got your guide and you keep encouraging good 
>guide work and all will go well. >> >> >> Best 
>Regards, >> >> >> Michael Hingson >> Vice 
>president, NAGDU >> The Michael Hingson Group, 
>INC. >> "Speaking with Vision" >> Michael 
>Hingson, President >> (415) 827-4084 >> 
>info at michaelhingson.com >> To order Michael 
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>for your next event please visit: >> 
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>-----Original Message----- >> From: NAGDU 
><nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Marie 
>Villaneda via NAGDU >> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 
>2019 12:25 PM >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org >> Cc: 
>Marie Villaneda <Marie.JV at outlook.com> >> 
>Subject: [NAGDU] Convention >> >> Any general 
>tips for convention with a dog? I’m not new to 
>traveling, and think I have a general idea of 
>things but wanted to see if anyone has anything 
>to say on the matter >> >> Sent from my 
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>Topics: >>> >>>   1. EU/Switzerlan dog 
>acceptance, and, international 
>rabies >>>      travel booster shots (Peter 
>Wolf) >>>   2. Re: Foreign certifications and 
>the related questions (Lyn Gwizdak) >>> >>> >>> 
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> >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 
>13:58:35 -0700 >>> From: Peter Wolf 
><pwolf1 at wolfskills.com> >>> To: 
>nagdu at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [NAGDU] 
>EU/Switzerlan dog acceptance, and, 
>international >>>    rabies travel booster 
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>charset=utf-8 >>> >>> Dan, >>> >>> Yes, correct, 
>Switzerland isn?t in the EU.  But that doesn?t 
>seem to matter.  They were fine for 
>entry. >>> >>> This was trip number two in the 
>past few years to Europe.  The first time, we 
>landed in Amsterdam.  This time, Zurich.  Other 
>border crossings within Europe were casual, or 
>nothing at all since it is now mostly EU 
>members.  On a train down into Italy, for 
>example, there was an announcement that border 
>agents would come through for passports.  Yup, a 
>couple of guys did walk through, but that?s all 
>they did?walk through! >>> >>> Experience so far 
>is that any real hubbub is from the U.S., 
>through the USDA.  It seems that the rest of 
>whom we?ve seen so far are more civilized and 
>dog friendly.  If they meet you at all when you 
>land, it?s because you had to declare something 
>special on the way in over there.  Otherwise, 
>you get, as you walk through, hey what a great 
>dog, welcome, have a nice visit, bye 
>bye. >>> >>> Here, you go to not just a vet, but 
>specifically a USDA endorsed one, for which 
>you?ll pay added fees.  There is one amongst the 
>large staff of our vet clinic, so we see him for 
>this.  They will do the health cert and make 
>sure rabies is up to date, and get at least two 
>copies of the rabies certificate (one of them, 
>embossed), with the third party vet health 
>certificate.  Make sure you have duplicate 
>everything.  Then you make an appointment and 
>travel to a USDA APHIS office, where they look 
>at the papers, and stamp them (called 
>endorsing), to say essentially, that yes, they 
>are papers from a vet?and now are officially 
>USDA endorsed.  Then off you go. >>> >>> Another 
>country may ask to look at papers, but usually 
>just a quick glance at a rabies cert if anything 
>at all.  This business is mostly for re-entering 
>the U.S.  The first time home, we stopped at 
>USDA within customs, where they gave us a 
>friendly rectoscopy, going through everything in 
>fine detail.  It took half an hour.  This time 
>however, in Philadelphia there was just one guy 
>at a counter, who only glanced at a current 
>rabies certificate and we were done.  Hey you 
>know the drill, if you put up your tarp, it 
>won?t rain.  Get the paperwork! >>> >>> 
>Ok,  that all was for main Europe, not UK 
>countries and Sweden who have stricter entry 
>requirements. The deal with countries that are 
>islands is they may not have had rabies 
>before.  So they are very strict about 
>boosters.  Be careful, this can get you 
>overvaccinated.  So any of you guys planning for 
>travel, do think ahead.  For UK countries 
>(England, Ireland and Scotland), our current 
>three year rabies booster is sufficient.  But, 
>it must also be accompanied by a vet?s entire 
>rabies booster history, all the way back to 
>puppy?s first shot.  If there has -ever- been a 
>lapse of a rabies shot due date - in the dog?s 
>entire history - even a booster due date lapse 
>of just one day - then a full booster must be 
>given, within one year before entering that 
>country.  Several weeks may have to pass between 
>this new shot and entering the country, so that 
>they consider that it has taken effect.  This is 
>regardless whether you are currently within your 
>good three year booster period.  So lets say, 
>that a year an a month ago, you did your three 
>year booster.  If your pup ever missed a shot in 
>it?s past, even by one day, then you must 
>vaccinate again.  This then gives you one year 
>to be current for entry into that country, 
>including the time you?ll spend there. >>> >>> 
>We have researched enough to learn that most of 
>the time (or more), our dogs?s original puppy 
>shots are still be measured by titer tests to be 
>providing current immunity sufficiency.  So we 
>do not over vaccinate them.  The array of 
>boosters, in other words, that most dogs get 
>after the original series, appear to be 
>unnecessary, provided that titer tests do show 
>currently sufficient immunity.  Dogs really do 
>seem need to get shots in the beginning as 
>puppies, to keep them safe from diseases to 
>which they can be exposed.  But then, they may 
>have lifelong immunity.  There are exceptions, 
>such as water or fecal-borne diseases for which 
>they may still need a booster because those 
>pathogens change over time and they may not be 
>protected from the new ones.  Talk to your vet, 
>and find out whether they are level headed 
>researchers who will weigh data, or shot 
>marketers.  Our research on over-vaccinating 
>points to long term health concerns.  So we 
>spend whatever money necessary on titer 
>tests.  And at age 9, we have gotten answers all 
>the way through so far, that immune antibody 
>levels are fully current, so no further 
>vaccinations have been necessary.  Here in 
>California, however, there is no getting around 
>a rabies booster every three years, even if you 
>drop the thousand bucks for a rabies titer test 
>and it shows perfect immunity.  You still are 
>required to do the shot.  So we do that 
>one. >>> >>> I believe that we have never lapsed 
>a rabies period for a booster.  So in theory, 
>for the UK, within any three year period after a 
>rabies booster shot, we could go to a UK 
>country.  But rules change, and so do 
>interpretations of individuals, such as that 
>one, officious officer who was having a bad day, 
>that you might run into on your next trip.  How 
>this applies to UK, Sweden, and anywhere else 
>with strict rabies rules is, we will only visit 
>one of those countries during the period within 
>the first year of a current rabies shot, even 
>though our shot is a three year dose.  That 
>keeps us safe from foibles on entry, and clearly 
>within the period that a shot had to be given if 
>they have any issues anyway. >>> >>> As long as 
>we are on this, if any of you need a reminder of 
>the little nasty bits we can encounter, ADI has 
>cut a deal with the UK.  Only dogs from schools 
>affiliated with ADI get into UK 
>countries.  Other service dogs can enter, but if 
>trained with a non-ADI school, or self-trained, 
>you will have to buck up and pay a (quote), 
>special handling fee unquote, of 800 British 
>Pounds per dog on entry. >>> >>> Happy travels 
>all! >>> Peter >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 
>5:00 AM, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org wrote: >>>> >>>>