[NAGDU] Question about Breeds
Sam Doman
skdoman2001 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 5 17:38:18 UTC 2019
Thank you all for your input! In terms of size, which are some of the bigger breeds?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 5, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Debra Chandler via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Just a note to those of you who want a German shepherd as a guide. I had a pet GSD who just passed away. I had her for eleven and a half years and we were very close. She loved people but wasn't overly fond of other dogs although she and my guide dog got along fine. Anyway many people are absolutely terrified of German shepherds so if you take cabs or Lift a lot be prepared. Drivers often won't take you because they're so afraid of GSD's.
> Deb and Tally
> ---- Charlene Ota via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Well, and then there's my friend who always has had dobies. When he got
>> married, he had Jackie. They kept leaving lunch money on the table for the
>> daughter for school and every day Trish would tell them there wasn't any
>> money there. I can't remember how many days it took before they figured out
>> who was eating the money! Sure enough, good old Jackie was the culprit!
>> Now that Tim is older, I've tried hard to convince him to accept a lab but
>> he just won't do it. Dobies are too high energy and he's not able to get out
>> and work a lot now but misses having a dog terribly. He's had guide dogs
>> since he was 8 or 9 years old. He is a good case in point that it does pay
>> to be flexible and open-minded because they can't find him a dobie that is
>> laid back enough for him now.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 5:38 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>
>> I've had a Golden and Lab/Golden as guides, and a Lab/Golden guide dog
>> dropout as a pet. All three dogs were what guide dog programs would consider
>> a city dog. Both of the crosses were pretty much bomb proof.
>> My one cross developed a thunder/firework phobia but literally could care
>> less about anything else, so it's a little weird. Both crosses were very
>> hard dogs, in the sense that even a strong correction on a prong wouldn't
>> bother them much. The Golden is a bit more sensitive in a way. She is
>> perfectly capable of handling pretty much anything I throw at her, and in
>> fact I remember a member of the training staff remarking that she appears
>> fearless. At the same time, she works in a martingale 95% of the time, is
>> very in tune to changes in tone (high pitched tone gets her really excited
>> and harsh tone works as well as a leash correction more often than not), and
>> she flinches whenever she causes me to trip or bump into something. My cross
>> was like "oh I guess I missed that" when we reworked an obstacle, while the
>> Golden is like "OMG I'm so sorry that was my fault" instantly upon making
>> the mistake.
>>
>> Both of my guides are very high energy, while the dropout was more laid
>> back. All three dogs gravitate to water. My more Lab-like cross in fact will
>> paw water out of water bowls, lay in puddles, and retrieve a toy in water
>> for an hour or more without stopping. While all three dogs loved all people
>> and liked as much physical contact with people as possible, the Golden is
>> the only one who will seek out attention in public while working.
>>
>> Both crosses would eat anything that was offered. The more Lab-like cross in
>> fact has a serious counter surfing/scavenging tendency. The Golden is quite
>> food motivated as wel; however, not to the extent of the crosses. She
>> refused to eat sometimes in the kennel, and she refused kibble rewards in
>> some situations during the first few months I had her due to a combination
>> of stress and excitement of the transition I think.
>>
>> Some other Golden tendencies include being vocal. Most Goldens and Golden
>> crosses will have a whole assortment of growls, whines, groans, etc when
>> they are excited, want something, or feel the need to tell you they are
>> right and you are wrong. Goldens like to rest their heads on things, and
>> they use their paws a lot. Lab hair coats everything in a blanket, but
>> Golden hair clumps into giant hairballs floating around your house. Golden
>> hair will collect snowballs and everything you never wanted to know was
>> dropped on the floor under seats or tables.
>>
>> Danielle, Thai, and Jackie
>>
>>> On 3/4/19, Rox Homstad via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Jordan,
>>> My lab, Soleil hates water also. Mostly she will try and guide me
>>> around puddles or will stop and then jump over them and hold steady
>>> while I step over. Buuuut last week, she walked me right through one.
>>> We had been in New York where it snowed and then I was hospitalized
>>> for a week, and she was really bored in the hospital that whole time
>>> and so I swear she walked me through that puddle when I left the
>>> hospital on purpose and then turned to me with this look on her face
>>> that was clearly like "sorry not sorry." Just wait, I'm having the
>>> last word, we're leaving for the frozen north and Canada in 4 days and
>>> so ... she's going to have to pee in the snow. Poor little southern bell!
>>>
>>>
>>> Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches
>>> Soleil, Rowan
>>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:48 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have had a golden, and two labs, and I can tell you that they are
>>>> or can be all different. My golden was as sweet as can be and liked
>>>> being right in the middle of things. My first lab was hyper major
>>>> but was eager to please when she was not being stubborn. My most
>>>> recent dog was a lab and was as calm as could be but harder to get to
>>>> do what I wanted him to do. Funny thing is that my second dog hated
>>>> water with a passion while my first and third dogs would find every
>>>> puddle to go play in if I let them. Lol. My girlfriend has a lab
>>>> gold cross, and he has definite traits from both breeds mostly
>>>> between my first and second dogs.
>>>> Jordan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sam Doman via
>>>> NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 3:50 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Sam Doman <skdoman2001 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>
>>>> Love it! How have your goldens been in terms of tempermant??
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, super cute! Thanks for the smile!!
>>>>>
>>>>> -Janell and Miss Rosy!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 2:30 PM
>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Madison Martin <maddymartin at mymts.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sam and all, I'm a sucker for Goldens, but as long as I don't get
>>>>> a Poodle then I really don't care. I don't want a Shepherd, but
>>>>> luckily the schools that I'm interested in don't train German
>>>>> Shepherds. Hope you get a guide dog soon! I saw this on a couple of
>>>>> other guide dog lists; I don't know if it's of any help to anyone,
>>>>> but I thought that you guys might find it funny. I don't know where
>>>>> the other lists got it
>>>> from though. Here it is:
>>>>> Which Breed Is the Best Dog?
>>>>> Golden Retrievers must be touching you at all times.
>>>>> Labs want to touch you at all times.
>>>>> German Shepherds have to see you
>>>>> at all times.
>>>>> If they had a job...
>>>>> Golden Retrievers would be social workers.
>>>>> Labs would be stand up comedians.
>>>>> German Shepherds would be nannies.
>>>>> If they
>>>>> were religious:
>>>>> Golden Retrievers must be Catholics; they understand the need to
>>>>> confess their guilt.
>>>>> Labs must be protestants, "What guilt?"
>>>>> German Shepherds
>>>>> must be agnostics, "I only did what was necessary."
>>>>> Golden Retrievers need attention.
>>>>> Labs want attention.
>>>>> German Shepherds demand attention.
>>>>> If Golden
>>>>> Retrievers could talk, they would be constantly saying, "I love you!
>>>>> I love you! And if you came home and found a broken lamp, they would
>>>>> say, "I'm a bad dog! I must have broken it even if I was outside the
>>>>> whole time! Oh No, you are unhappy!"
>>>>> If Labs could talk, they would constantly be saying, "Love me!
>>>>> Love Me!" And if you came home to find a broken lamp, they would
>>>>> say, "Broken lamp? Yup, I was having tons of fun and I broke it!
>>>>> Want to see me break the other one?"
>>>>> If German Shepherds could talk they would be constantly saying,
>>>>> "Where are you going, be careful! Let me help you with that!" And if
>>>>> you came home to find a broken lamp, they would declare, I told him
>>>>> not to do it, but the cat broke the lamp anyway!"
>>>>> Golden Retrievers -- long hair- on your clothes, in your food, on
>>>>> your couch, in your bed . everywhere!
>>>>> Labs -short hair- on your clothes, in your food, on your couch, in
>>>>> your bed.everywhere!
>>>>> German Shepherds - multi-colored hair--on your clothes, in your
>>>>> food, on your couch, in your bed.everywhere!
>>>>> Golden Retrievers brush daily;
>>>>> Labs blow their
>>>>> coats at least twice a year, take them to a groomer for a bath
>>>>> spring and fall, basically wash and wear. German Shepherds are
>>>>> walking fur factories capable of creating huge dust bunnies that are
>>>>> intelligent enough to hide until you put the vacuum cleaner away.
>>>>> You might just consider giving these names and making them members of
>> the family.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you guys think? Enjoy!!
>>>>> Madison
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: March-04-19 11:55 AM
>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>
>>>>> There are only 2 schools that have plenty of shepherds, The Seeing
>>>>> Eye and Fidelco. Fidelco only has shepherds, and TSE has about
>>>>> equal of the 3-4 breeds. Some other schools have a very few
>>>>> shepherds, but, if that's what you really want, you should probably
>>>>> look into a school that has them, or be prepared to wait a while for
>>>>> one to come along that
>>>> will suit you.
>>>>> Cindy is totally right to point out that it's not just the breed;
>>>>> the personality and the way the dog suits your needs is the big
>>>>> thing. I had a lab who had many shepherd qualities, and another who
>>>>> had many golden qualities. I expect there are sheppies who are
>> lab-like, too.
>>>>> And that sets aside the lifestyle concerns. Do you need a dog who
>>>>> loves the big city? That kind is usually bored crazy with a quiet
>>>>> life. Or are you someone who lives in the country, and walks 3
>>>>> miles into
>>>> town most days?
>>>>> What do you want the dog to do for you? That's a rhetorical
>>>>> question, but an important one.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam Doman
>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 12:37 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Cc: Sam Doman
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah. I think that leader does. I know all about labs being eaters,
>>>>> as I have a pet lab who constantly looks for food. I've really been
>>>>> looking at goldens or german shepherds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sam.
>>>>>> Do you get much choice at Leader? Many schools have mostly labs.
>>>>>> Not a problem for me, though. I like labs a lot. They tend to be
>>>>>> healthy, even-tempered, and adaptable to any situation. They can
>>>>>> lie quietly in an office, or walk around all day. One thing about
>>>>>> labs is they're not picky eaters. Or, looked at another way,
>>>>>> they'll eat anything, any time, and sometimes it's not something
>>>>>> you want them to
>>>> eat.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sam
>>>>>> Doman via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 12:16 PM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Cc: Sam Doman
>>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Question about Breeds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all. So as I may be getting a dog soon, I wanted to ask your
>>>>>> alls opinion on the different breeds. What do you like about them,
>>>>>> how are they with temperament? Thanks..
>>>>>>
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