[NAGDU] The full baggy blues (was RE: distracted relieving)

Sun Mar 24 17:32:45 UTC 2019

Tracy,

I love it and can relate. The island that I live on has absolutely no public 
garbage cans, and I have to carry the prize home to discard it. Well, we 
have no businesses either, so that makes sense and is okay. I do have 
several places where I can covertly stash a bag if I am on my way to catch 
the ferry to go to town. Hey, I don't want to be holding a smelly poop bag 
in my hand on a crowded passenger-only ferry. lol. I then pick up the bag 
from its hiding place on my way home and put it in our home garbage.

In town, I know of a few garbage cans, but I wish I knew more. I know 
they're there, but where. Ug. I think I need a song too. I'll have to think 
on that. But I do have a fridge magnet that says "Poop happens: Just pick it 
up and move on." One of the letter "o"s looks like a pile of poop.

Seriously, for those times that you have to cary a poop bag in close 
proximity to others, have you found a way of doing it that masks the smell a 
bit? I have heard of a carry bag called a Turdle bag, but I don't know how 
well it works and if it is more hassle than its worth.

Jean and Boomer

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 6:54 AM
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Subject: [NAGDU] The full baggy blues (was RE: distracted relieving)

These are the words to my little blues song.  Like many blues songs, it's 
pretty simple.
Well, I'm walking 'round Manhattan
With a poop bag in my hand.
Yeah I'm walking 'round Manhattan
With a full bag in my hand.
You know I've looked on every corner
And I can't find a garbage can.

That's it.  It's annoying in Manhattan, where there are really lots of trash 
cans.  It's almost impossible to find a public trashcan in the town where I 
live.  I can only think of 3, and they're well-spaced.
Tracy

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] distracted relieving

Alright Tracey,

Please tell us what the words to your song are?  😊

I was just on vacation in Florida and Rosy went 5 times in one day.  I am 
sure it was partly due to the stress of traveling and being in a strange 
place, but I found myself carrying around those lovely poop bags most of my 
trip!

-Janell and miss poops a lot!  😊

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] distracted relieving

Hi Jean.
I feel your pain.  Krokus does the same trick.  Just out of curiosity, is 
your dog from TSE?  I begin to think pooping on route is a TSE feature, 
though I know dogs from other schools sometimes do, too.

I take him to relieve in front of my house, mostly.  I let him walk around 
along the whole strip of grass and street in the front, about 60 feet. 
Often, enough walking up and down will stimulate him to go.  For some 
reason, he is more likely to poop when my husband takes him than when I do. 
Maybe my husband is more patient.
I've also found that attaching the relieving belt and the bag can stimulate 
him to go, too.  Maybe it bugs him, and he wants to get it off?
At work, I walk him a block or so to a good spot, put on his bag, then let 
him sniff and spin until I get a result.  He used to get distracted by all 
the action around, but now he just needs some encouraging "park time"'s from 
me, and he does his thing.

If none of that works, and he starts stopping on route and saying he has to 
go, I try to keep him moving to a spot we've used before, just so he doesn't 
start thinking he can stop anywhere.  Of course, then every time we pass 
that spot, he thinks it's time to stop and have a sniff and a pee, so I 
really try to get him to go before we go.

Good luck.  For me, relieving on route is very aggravating.  I've even made 
up a little blues song about walking around with a full baggy, trying to 
find a trash can.
Tracy

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Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 6:01 PM
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Subject: [NAGDU] distracted relieving

I know there is no real answer for this other than probably likely time and 
possibly maturity, but here goes.

I have a new pup. I take him out for park time, and he always pees. I give 
him lots of time and encouragement for a poop, but often there is nothing. 
Then we harness up and head out, only to have him often poop in the first 
200 or 300 yards of our route. His signs of needing to go on route are 
clear. He walks very, very slowly, stops, won’t go, pulls into the grass, 
etc. If I force it and try and ignore his needing to go and try to get home 
so that he can park at home, he will poop on the road in harness. If I take 
his harness off and let him go to the edge of the road, he often gets 
distracted by the grass and brush on the edges and starts eating crap 
instead of doing what he so urgently indicated he had to do.

Factors:
1 He is new.
2 He has never had a yard before, and gets distracted by the grass and new 
smells, so parking at home might be just distracting on its own.
3 We are walking on gravel roads with grass or brush along the edges. If I 
let him stop along the way, he gets fixated on eating crap and won’t 
necessarily poop. Again, all this new stuff is just amazing to eat.

I really praise him when he poops at home especially prior to a walk. I 
sometimes even  offer up a treat reward for a home poop.

So, any ideas on how to further encourage that poop prior to heading out? I 
give him lots of time and encouragement to move about. I don’t want  pooping 
on route to become the norm.

What are people’s reactions to this kind of situation? Obviously, it is 
frustrating. But do you just accept that poop happens and if he has to go, 
he has to go, or do you fall into another camp and try to fix this 
behaviour?

Thanks for any input.

Jean and Boomer
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