[NAGDU] Why I feel dog ownership is important

[Brent Franklin]

Hello,

My boy turns 11 this coming Thursday. He is still working but I am going
to have to get another dog soon. I had a follow up last Thursday night,
and it is felt in the next 12 months he will retire.

Yes it is true, they have decided to charge a fee for retired dogs. Being
the handler if I took ownership I don't have to pay a fee, so by doing
this I've avoided the people who are going to take him being charged
anything as I can just hand him straight over.

Cheers.

Brent.

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You would be charged a fee just to retire your dog, and you didn't have
to pay anything to get him?
Oh my goodness.
I am so pleased he is turning 11.
Does he still work for you?
Thanks for sharing.
Dar

Original message:
> Hello Sharon and all,

> Absolutely fantastic to see you posting here Sharon, I  know you have
> plenty to contribute.

> Sharon and I have dogs from the same school. I have only in the past 2
> weeks gone over my contract in major detail. My dog while still working
is
> coming up to retire. The contract does state that up until the age of 5
> the school owns the dog, but once the dog turns 5 the client can fill
out
> forms and take ownership of the dog.

> I took ownership of my dog on Friday and he will turn 11 years of age
this
> Thursday. My reason for taking ownership is because I have a home for
him
> to retire to, and the school has started charging a fee for people to
get
> retired dogs. Me taking ownership means two things.

> 1, I have now complete say in what happens to the dog when he retires.
> While generally if you had arranged a home for the dog the school
wouldn't
> object, but they had to sign off on it, which means they could object.

> 2, The school is now charging people a fee for retired guides. Me taking
> ownership means no fee needs to be paid. Clients of the school can take
> ownership of there dog for free.

> I disagree with the school charging a fee, my boy is going to a good
home,
> therefore I now have complete say on where he is going to live, and have
> avoided any charges being passed on to the people who are going to take
> very good care of him.

> Cheers.

> Brent.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sharon S via
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> Sent: Saturday, 5 December 2020 1:19 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Sharon S
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Why I feel dog ownership is important

> Hi all, I have been following this discussion with interest. The school
I
> use do remain the owner of the dogs but I have never felt the need to
see
> if this can be changed. My recent dog is the only one I have needed to
> worry about it for and that was only after I retired him. I received
Rolo
> at an older age because he had a previous owner. The school told me his
> previous handler died and the family handed him back to the school. I
have
> no reason not to believe this and he showed no signs of abuse when I got
> him. The only problem he had was some separation anxiety and that was
> understandable. He lost his owner, got taken to the local branch of the
> school, they had him for awhile before deciding they didn't have a
> suitable handler for him. Then he was sent to the head centre and put
out
> to a carer until he was matched with me. He then came to me for one
night
> to give us a test run. He then went back to the carer for a short time
and
> then bought back to live with me. For the first little while if I left
him
> in my room while I went to the bathroom he would cry. Over time this
> became less of a problem and now he is retired he doesn't worry about
> where I am. However, he does come and greet me when I come home  but he
is
> happy enough watching me when I leave the house.

> I was the one who made the decision to retire Rolo because he didn't
> appear to be enjoying work anymore and he was making mistakes that cause
> some falls for me. It will be interesting when I get my next dog if when
> Rolo sees the harness weather he will line up to put it on or maybe he
> will understand this younger dog has come to take over the job and he
will
> just relax. It has been over a year since he retired but some times when
I
> am about to go out somewhere Rolo will come to me and ask me to let him
> outside to toilet like we use to do when he was working.

> I would have to dig out one of my old contracts to see exactly what they
> say about ownership but I seem to remember it said something about the
> school owning the dog for the first five years and after that the
handler
> can request ownership but I might be remembering wrong because it has
been
> quite some time since I read it.

> I did meet one dog that had been taken back but that was because the
> handler's partner was hitting the dog so I understand that one. But I
> haven't heard of any others besides ones that fail working with a
person.

> Bye for now.
>> From Shaz.
> Canberra, Australia.



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