[NAGDU] Flying guide / service dogs to Hawaii - APHIS paperwork

Mon Jun 22 19:56:44 UTC 2020

The EU is pretty straight forward and fairly easy. Hawaii is not. I know 
no matter how much I've tried, can not go to Iceland. I'm thinking 
England may be the same. Don't know for sure.

On 6/22/2020 5:35 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
> I have traveled to the EU twice.  I have not had to go to the APHIS office in person to get my paperwork stamped, which is a very good thing, as it's about 5 hours from here, at least.  I've overnighted the paperwork, and included a pre-paid envelope for them to overnight it back.  Works great, and costs a lot less than going there in person.
> Tracy
>
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> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Wolf via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 3:41 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Peter Wolf
> Subject: [NAGDU] Flying guide / service dogs to Hawaii
>
> Hi folks,
>   I caught your conversation about Hawaii.  We’d love to go, but between titer test and extra fees it seems prohibitive.  We’ve jumped through the USDA hoops for EU flights a couple of times already, and that is doable.  Well, you end up with blowing four hundred and a day going round trip to an APHIS office appointment to get the vet papers stamped, but doable.
>
> We’ve heard titer tests can be as much as a thousand bucks, and we’ve got two working dogs between us.  Youch!  …Anyhow,  back to point…who can clarify what additional fees apply if we wanted to go to Maui or Kawaii?  And the comment about flying to HNL first…if this eliminates additional fees, what are they?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
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>>    1. Re: Freedom Guide Dogs (Jenine Stanley)
>>    2. Hawaii (Tracy Carcione)
>>    3. Re: Hawaii (Charlene Ota)
>>    4. Re: Hawaii (Bryan Gearry)
>>    5. Re: Hawaii (Charlene Ota)
>>    6. Re: Hawaii (Charlene Ota)
>>    7. Re: Hawaii (Bryan Gearry)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 08:16:49 -0400
>> From: Jenine Stanley <jeninems at icloud.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Freedom Guide Dogs
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>> My husband applied there so yes, they do serve at least the Columbus metro area.
>>
>> He didn?t complete that app but chose another school but his app is still open for completion if that makes sense.
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2020, at 10:24 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone know if they serve Ohio and which parts.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jordan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:10 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Freedom Guide Dogs
>>>
>>> Marion and Mary got their dogs from Freedom and they live in Florida.
>>> I was wondering about John the other day.
>>> Cindy Lou
>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:36 AM
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>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Freedom Guide Dogs
>>>
>>> I thought Freedom only did home training in New York state and nearby areas.
>>> Is John Byfield working for Freedom in Florida?
>>>
>>> Tracy
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 18:44:28 -0400
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Hawaii
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>> My husband thinks that, if we fly to Hawaii, they will take the dog away
>> before I leave the plane and take him somewhere for inspection, and that the
>> inspection place might even be far from the airport.
>>
>> Is that true?  Just planning for a future when we could fly again.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 17:57:14 -0500
>> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota4 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii
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>> Hi, Tracy, NO, they will not take your dog away!!!! (smile!)  Sometimes,
>> someone from Quarantine meets the plane so when you get off the plane you
>> will be asked to wait for that person. If they don't take care of checking
>> your paperwork right there at the plane, they may take you to the quarantine
>> office which is a fairly short walk from the plane and then they will take
>> you back to baggage claim to pick up your luggage. I don't know exactly how
>> it will be with all of the changes that have happened recently, but you will
>> need to have your paperwork ready and also there's a letter that you should
>> send to them ahead of time as well. I may still have the documents, if I
>> have them I could send them to you.
>>
>> Charlene
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:44 PM
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>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>>
>> My husband thinks that, if we fly to Hawaii, they will take the dog away
>> before I leave the plane and take him somewhere for inspection, and that the
>> inspection place might even be far from the airport.
>>
>> Is that true?  Just planning for a future when we could fly again.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 19:57:06 -0800
>> From: Bryan Gearry <bgearry at alaskafrontier.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>> Message-ID: <04613c2e-a76b-fd2c-00a6-5b57785c5a39 at alaskafrontier.net>
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>> Tracy use this link:
>> http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/ai/aqs/animal-quarantine-information-page/guide-service-dogs-entering-hawaii/
>>
>> I travel to Hawaii every year. If you come from America direct to
>> Honolulu, it's fairly straight forward as long as you have your paper
>> work submitted at least 2 weeks before arrival. If you are going to a
>> neighboring Island it is quite expensive and a lot more complicated. The
>> link will tell you how to go about doing all of this. If you are going
>> direct to a neighbor island, it is almost worth spending the night in
>> HNL. The charges for a private vet to come meet you at the airplane is
>> approx $500. Coming to HNL is no charge other than Hotel net to airport
>> that is $240 a night. Hawaiian Air is $149 (possibly get a better deal).
>> Allow at least 2 months to get you Rabies Titer test back. Very
>> Important. You will have to have this to come to Hawaii. When you book
>> you tickets and your stopping in HNL first, tell booking agent that you
>> will need somebody to meet you at gate to take you to Quarantine. It's a
>> little hike but not bad. You will go by a dumpster that you can use to
>> relieve your Guide. There are no pet relief areas at HNL, but there is
>> an atrium I use in the center of the terminal (between Main Land and
>> Inter Island terminals) and hide behind the bushes. Been doing it for 11
>> years and no one has ever complained. (I get a hose out and wash
>> everything down).
>>
>> Now all of this changes if you fly direct to a neighbor Island!!!!
>>
>> We can all thank Jenine Stanley who had a big part of allowing Guide
>> dogs into Hawaii.
>>
>> Good luck and Aloha
>>
>> On 6/17/2020 2:44 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>>> My husband thinks that, if we fly to Hawaii, they will take the dog away
>>> before I leave the plane and take him somewhere for inspection, and that the
>>> inspection place might even be far from the airport.
>>>
>>> Is that true?  Just planning for a future when we could fly again.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:56:41 -0500
>> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota4 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>> Message-ID: <02c501d6452c$dc562900$95027b00$@gmail.com>
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>>
>> Brian, glad you had the website because my documents are pretty old and
>> things may have changed. Tracy, I just didn't want you to think I had
>> forgotten about sending documents. You'll definitely need that rabies titer
>> test along with a vet exam and current vaccination records. I think the exam
>> has to be with 14 days of your trip. That website will most likely tell you
>> all you need to know. There's a form that you fill out inflight, too, and
>> should indicate on that form that you need a visit from quarantine.
>> Definitely have your forms in easy access in your carry on.
>>
>> Charlene
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Gearry via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:57 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bryan Gearry <bgearry at alaskafrontier.net>; Tracy Carcione
>> <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>>
>> Tracy use this link:
>> http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/ai/aqs/animal-quarantine-information-page/guide-servi
>> ce-dogs-entering-hawaii/
>>
>> I travel to Hawaii every year. If you come from America direct to Honolulu,
>> it's fairly straight forward as long as you have your paper work submitted
>> at least 2 weeks before arrival. If you are going to a neighboring Island it
>> is quite expensive and a lot more complicated. The link will tell you how to
>> go about doing all of this. If you are going direct to a neighbor island, it
>> is almost worth spending the night in HNL. The charges for a private vet to
>> come meet you at the airplane is approx $500. Coming to HNL is no charge
>> other than Hotel net to airport that is $240 a night. Hawaiian Air is $149
>> (possibly get a better deal).
>> Allow at least 2 months to get you Rabies Titer test back. Very Important.
>> You will have to have this to come to Hawaii. When you book you tickets and
>> your stopping in HNL first, tell booking agent that you will need somebody
>> to meet you at gate to take you to Quarantine. It's a little hike but not
>> bad. You will go by a dumpster that you can use to relieve your Guide. There
>> are no pet relief areas at HNL, but there is an atrium I use in the center
>> of the terminal (between Main Land and Inter Island terminals) and hide
>> behind the bushes. Been doing it for 11 years and no one has ever
>> complained. (I get a hose out and wash everything down).
>>
>> Now all of this changes if you fly direct to a neighbor Island!!!!
>>
>> We can all thank Jenine Stanley who had a big part of allowing Guide dogs
>> into Hawaii.
>>
>> Good luck and Aloha
>>
>> On 6/17/2020 2:44 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>>> My husband thinks that, if we fly to Hawaii, they will take the dog
>>> away before I leave the plane and take him somewhere for inspection,
>>> and that the inspection place might even be far from the airport.
>>>
>>> Is that true?  Just planning for a future when we could fly again.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 00:02:48 -0500
>> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota4 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>> Message-ID: <02c701d6452d$b6a156c0$23e40440$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Brian, I just have to say, you caught my attention in your comment about
>> traveling from America to Hawaii. It just sounds strange, but I suppose in a
>> sense it is correct. People sometimes make comments about Hawaii as if it
>> weren't part of the United States. Living there as I did, we'd say we were
>> going to the mainland when we were leaving Hawaii for other states.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Gearry via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:57 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bryan Gearry <bgearry at alaskafrontier.net>; Tracy Carcione
>> <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>>
>> Tracy use this link:
>> http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/ai/aqs/animal-quarantine-information-page/guide-servi
>> ce-dogs-entering-hawaii/
>>
>> I travel to Hawaii every year. If you come from America direct to Honolulu,
>> it's fairly straight forward as long as you have your paper work submitted
>> at least 2 weeks before arrival. If you are going to a neighboring Island it
>> is quite expensive and a lot more complicated. The link will tell you how to
>> go about doing all of this. If you are going direct to a neighbor island, it
>> is almost worth spending the night in HNL. The charges for a private vet to
>> come meet you at the airplane is approx $500. Coming to HNL is no charge
>> other than Hotel net to airport that is $240 a night. Hawaiian Air is $149
>> (possibly get a better deal).
>> Allow at least 2 months to get you Rabies Titer test back. Very Important.
>> You will have to have this to come to Hawaii. When you book you tickets and
>> your stopping in HNL first, tell booking agent that you will need somebody
>> to meet you at gate to take you to Quarantine. It's a little hike but not
>> bad. You will go by a dumpster that you can use to relieve your Guide. There
>> are no pet relief areas at HNL, but there is an atrium I use in the center
>> of the terminal (between Main Land and Inter Island terminals) and hide
>> behind the bushes. Been doing it for 11 years and no one has ever
>> complained. (I get a hose out and wash everything down).
>>
>> Now all of this changes if you fly direct to a neighbor Island!!!!
>>
>> We can all thank Jenine Stanley who had a big part of allowing Guide dogs
>> into Hawaii.
>>
>> Good luck and Aloha
>>
>> On 6/17/2020 2:44 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>>> My husband thinks that, if we fly to Hawaii, they will take the dog
>>> away before I leave the plane and take him somewhere for inspection,
>>> and that the inspection place might even be far from the airport.
>>>
>>> Is that true?  Just planning for a future when we could fly again.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 21:16:55 -0800
>> From: Bryan Gearry <bgearry at alaskafrontier.net>
>> To: Charlene Ota via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>> Message-ID: <d1b738e1-0ecb-0241-c037-f66c9ace68e7 at alaskafrontier.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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>> I know what you mean. I live in Alaska...same thing. We call it
>> "Outside", Lower 48 or America. Hawaii and Alaska are different than the
>> rest of the country. Free shipping???? That always gets me other than
>> Alaska and Hawaii!
>>
>> On 6/17/2020 9:02 PM, Charlene Ota via NAGDU wrote:
>>> Brian, I just have to say, you caught my attention in your comment about
>>> traveling from America to Hawaii. It just sounds strange, but I suppose in a
>>> sense it is correct. People sometimes make comments about Hawaii as if it
>>> weren't part of the United States. Living there as I did, we'd say we were
>>> going to the mainland when we were leaving Hawaii for other states.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bryan Gearry via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:57 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Bryan Gearry <bgearry at alaskafrontier.net>; Tracy Carcione
>>> <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hawaii
>>>
>>> Tracy use this link:
>>> http://hdoa.hawaii.gov/ai/aqs/animal-quarantine-information-page/guide-servi
>>> ce-dogs-entering-hawaii/
>>>
>>> I travel to Hawaii every year. If you come from America direct to Honolulu,
>>> it's fairly straight forward as long as you have your paper work submitted
>>> at least 2 weeks before arrival. If you are going to a neighboring Island it
>>> is quite expensive and a lot more complicated. The link will tell you how to
>>> go about doing all of this. If you are going direct to a neighbor island, it
>>> is almost worth spending the night in HNL. The charges for a private vet to
>>> come meet you at the airplane is approx $500. Coming to HNL is no charge
>>> other than Hotel net to airport that is $240 a night. Hawaiian Air is $149
>>> (possibly get a better deal).
>>> Allow at least 2 months to get you Rabies Titer test back. Very Important.
>>> You will have to have this to come to Hawaii. When you book you tickets and
>>> your stopping in HNL first, tell booking agent that you will need somebody
>>> to meet you at gate to take you to Quarantine. It's a little hike but not
>>> bad. You will go by a dumpster that you can use to relieve your Guide. There
>>> are no pet relief areas at HNL, but there is an atrium I use in the center
>>> of the terminal (between Main Land and Inter Island terminals) and hide
>>> behind the bushes. Been doing it for 11 years and no one has ever
>>> complained. (I get a hose out and wash everything down).
>>>
>>> Now all of this changes if you fly direct to a neighbor Island!!!!
>>>
>>> We can all thank Jenine Stanley who had a big part of allowing Guide dogs
>>> into Hawaii.
>>>
>>> Good luck and Aloha
>>>
>>> On 6/17/2020 2:44 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>>>> My husband thinks that, if we fly to Hawaii, they will take the dog
>>>> away before I leave the plane and take him somewhere for inspection,
>>>> and that the inspection place might even be far from the airport.
>>>>
>>>> Is that true?  Just planning for a future when we could fly again.
>>>>
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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