[NAGDU] "Well-trained"

[Charlene Ota]

Tracy, you had a good explanation. I know different schools seem to have
different ideas. Having gotten a dog from The Seeing Eye long before I had
my last dog Irish, I totally expected to go anywhere and everywhere with my
dog and use the commands and skills that the dog  and I had from our
training. When I got Irish, the expectation at The Eye of the Pacific was
very different, most of those people never went anywhere by themselves
without having someone preferably a trainer go with them a couple of times
to learn the route. I never adopted that philosophy and Irish and I just
went where we wanted to go, maybe getting directions if needed beforehand,
but he was a well-trained dog and I supported him and used the commands and
he was trained with and my mobility skills to get where we needed to go.  It
was a concept I'd never been familiar with until dealing with the Eye of the
Pacific that I wouldn't expect to go home and work independently with my dog
from then on.

Charlene
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] "Well-trained"

hi tracy.

well said.  one of the keys for me working with a dog is to allow me that
independance to go to new places and use the skills of the dog to find our
wa arund.  

gary



On June 25, 2021 9:03:41 AM PDT, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>I think "well-trained" is affected by expectations.  
>
>To me, "well-trained" means a dog can work with a totally blind person, 
>without sighted assistance, in a wide variety of situations and in 
>areas the handler is not familiar with.  If it can do that, it is 
>trained well enough to work with anyone.
>
>I get the impression sometimes that some trainers expect that the 
>handler can see a bit, or will have sighted help available, or will not 
>be going to unfamiliar areas without a sighted person along.  Any or 
>all of these things may be true for some people, but by no means for 
>all.  They certainly aren't true for me.
>
>One is an expectation that blind people lead limited, circumscribed 
>lives, and the other is that we go out and do what we want to do, when 
>we want to do it. JMO.
>
>Tracy
>
> 
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