[NAGDU] churches??

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You can't take a dog into the Mormon temple (different from a meeting house or stake center) but the Temple isn't open for general public anyway. The visitor's centers at the temples are and I sure hope nobody would be a d**ck about it, though anybody can write to a Mormon bishop or stake president and tell them of their experiences good bad or indifferent. 

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] churches??

I believe they must let you in with your service dog if some activity is open to the public. An example would be if it is a place where people go to vote, for a community meeting or similar activities. I am not aware of any protestant churches or the Catholic church that won't let you in with a service animal based on religious beliefs. I doubt if you could take a dog into a Mosque. I have also heard that you can't take a service dog into the Mormon Tabernacle even if it is a public activity. I seriously question that one.

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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Heather Bird via NAGDU
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] churches??

So, churches are not considered a place of public accommodation. This  has to do with the concept of separation of church and state. This also applies to other places of worship, so a mosque or synagogue for instance. Many religious institutions welcome individuals with their service dogs, but they have the right to refuse. Now, it gets a little more difficult when for instance there is a school or homeless shelter or other place of public accommodation, that happens to be run by a church, or situated within the church. There is some guidance from the department of justice, but people have had mixed results, with regards advocacy and accessing public services offered by religious institutions. I always tell people thatt, it never hurts to ask, education can be beneficial, and even though they’re not required to take you and your service dog, trying to do a little advocacy, without trying to force the issue, is usually a good idea.

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> On Sep 27, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Jessica Diaz via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Afternoon,
> Church for me has never been an issue. I also have relied on rides 
> from awesome people. Though we have pretty awesome transit here none 
> are super close to the churches my hubby and I have attended. Good 
> luck. For me, they have all been pretty welcoming.
> Jess
> 
>> On 9/27/21, Richard via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi;
>> 
>> I'm certainly not an A D A expert but I didn't think churches would 
>> be an issue.  Generally although they are a private organization most 
>> churches are open to the public.
>> 
>> In my little world church has never been an issue.  In most cases 
>> public transit isn't an  option when going to the church of my 
>> choice.  Generally a church member is happy to take my  wife and 
>> myself with no problems.  Since it is their private automobile, 
>> however, its really up to them whether the dog comes or not.  I have 
>> seen some people who have their no dogs allowed sign up.  Then there 
>> are others who would happily take my dog and I'm welcome to stay 
>> home.
>> 
>> Just  my personal experiences
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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