[NAGDU] changing the subject to flying on Allegiant Airlines

Al Sten-Clanton albert.e.sten_clanton at verizon.net
Wed Feb 2 17:22:44 UTC 2022


Yeah, and given that Butigieg heard straight from us last convention, it 
should take and should have taken very little time to get this ball 
rolling.


Al


On 2/2/22 11:53, robert stigile via NAGDU wrote:
> I agree with Mike.
> As I stated before I flew twice last summer.
> The reason I flew twice is because my dad passed away.
> If I had had to wait three weeks when I got the notice that my dad passed I immediately booked a flight on Southwest. You can’t always know three weeks in advance or four weeks or whatever to book a flight. Things happen like my dad passing and you shouldn’t be subjected to having to wait three weeks to travel somewhere with your guide dog.
>
> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
> National Federation of the Blind of California
> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
> 818-381-9568
>
>
>> On Feb 2, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Mike Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> By any standard three weeks is unacceptable and far outside the scope of what the DOT intended. You should make sure NAGDU leadership and our National center knows about this. I hope at some point we get the DOT to revisit this whole inappropriate rule anyway. Allegiant Airlines' behavior is a good example of how we as guide dog users are being inconvenienced and mistreated by airlines simply because we use guide dogs.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of robert stigile via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 8:40 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: robert stigile <rstigile at gmail.com>; Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Information on Flying with A Dog
>>
>> Well, southwest does not make you wait three weeks. All you need to do with Southwest is fill out the TSA form print it  out and take it with you. And no, they do not clear out the row for you I flew twice last summer and although the middle seat was empty there was someone on the isle seat.
>>
>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>> National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>> 818-381-9568
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 2, 2022, at 8:21 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> 3 weeks to be approved to fly?  That's ridiculous!
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Janell via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2022 9:49 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: nellie at culodge.com
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Information on Flying with A Dog
>>>
>>> All very good advice Tracey!
>>>
>>> I am flying with Rosy from Il to Florida on Wednesday.  We are flying
>>> Allegiant Airlines.  Be sure to fill out their forms plenty early
>>> because, at least with Allegiance you need to submit the forms, then
>>> they review and approve your request or not.  That took about 3 weeks
>>> to hear back from them.
>>>
>>> I hate flying, but having my dog there is very calming for me.  Tracey
>>> is correct, if you are nervous your dog will be as well.  Depending on
>>> when the flight is (ours is 6:00 PM) I will feed Rosy a half cup or so
>>> in the morning, take her water away around noon.  I bring a few treats in my purse.
>>> I have never been offered an entire row, not sure that is true?
>>>
>>> Safe travels!
>>>
>>> HTH, Janell and miss Rosy
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2022 8:50 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Information on Flying with A Dog
>>>
>>> Hi Diane.
>>> I haven't had a dog get real anxious about flying.  I tell them it's a
>>> big bus, and they seem to agree.  As with many things, if you are
>>> confident, your dog will be confident, too.
>>> People often feed a lighter than usual meal before flying, or no meal
>>> at all, and limit water.  I feed a light meal, as my lab would be
>>> upset by not eating.
>>>
>>> I wish your co-worker was right and we got a row to ourselves, but
>>> that hardly ever happens.  I try not to get an aisle seat, so I don't
>>> have to wory about a tail or paws getting out where they can get
>>> stepped on or the cart could hit them.  I take off the harness, too.
>>> If I'm in a window seat, I put it between the seat and the wall, or I
>>> shove it under my seat.  My dog goes under the seat in front of me, with his head by my feet.
>>> Flight attendants may want you to sit in the bulkhead seat.  Sometimes
>>> there is more room there, and sometimes not.  Sometimes there's no
>>> room at all there.  It all depends on the kind of plane.
>>>
>>> Now there is a service dog form you have to fill out before you fly.
>>> Many airlines have their own, with varying accessibility, and some use
>>> the DOT form, which is accessible.  I don't know what Southwest does,
>>> but someone here does--I remember it being discussed.
>>>
>>> I just got back from TSE, and they have some seats set up to practice
>>> settling your dog on an airplane.  You could practice at home, if you
>>> want, by setting up 2 rows of chairs close together, then backing your
>>> dog into the back row and getting him/her to lie under one of the
>>> chairs in front of you.
>>>
>>> Oh, ears.  Some people give the dog a kibble or 2 at take-off and
>>> landing to help their ears pop.  Or I sometimes offer a bit of ice, if
>>> I've gotten a glass of water.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane
>>> Graves via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2022 7:49 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: rdgraves2007 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Information on Flying with A Dog
>>>
>>> Greetings To All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In March I will be traveling to the national center in Baltimore for a
>>> meeting, and I need to gather all the information I can about flying
>>> with my Izzo. We have been together for almost five years. However I
>>> received home training, and so we have never flown together. Not sure
>>> what I need to do in preparation or what to expect. We will be flying
>>> on Southwest airline, if that makes a difference.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm concerned that she might get anxious on the flight. Should I ask
>>> the vet to prescribe something for anxiety? She needs to be able to
>>> work once she gets there of course, so I don't want to sedate her to
>>> much. But she has been known to fuss in situations where she is
>>> uncomfortable, and I don't want to be put off of the plane. LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do dogs ears "pop" like ours sometimes do when flying? A coworker of
>>> mine recently told me that, if you are traveling with a dog, you are
>>> the sole occupant of a given row of seats. I find this somewhat hard
>>> to believe, but thought I would pose the question.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any advice or input you can offer regarding flying or preparation for
>>> same with my puppy would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Diane Graves
>>>
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