[NAGDU] NAGDU Updates during convention

Danielle Ledet singingmywayin at gmail.com
Mon Jul 11 23:34:36 UTC 2022


Wow. I thought it was just because I was traveling and listening on my
iPhone w/earbuds. I too got off early since I couldn't make out what
was being said.

On 7/8/22, Heather Bird via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello, Cindy, and list. I appreciate that NAGDU offered zoom listening and
> some participation, for the seminar, and the business meeting. However, I
> agree with others, that the sound quality of the business meeting was
> depending on who was speaking, very poor to fair at best. I want to thank
> Steve Cook, as I believe he was the one helping to host on zoom. However,
> something about where he was positioned, and the fact that, understandably,
> he needed to use jaws or VoiceOver, made it very hard to understand what
> people were saying. Even Raul was fairly hard to understand, I would say
> that Tim Elder was the easiest person to understand, and most of the time,
> the audience members were completely or mostly incomprehensible. I have
> pretty good hearing, and for a while, I used to work as an interrogations
> transcriptionist for our local DDSO, within their HR department, so I’m
> pretty good at trying to decode recordings or conversations with poor audio
> quality, and even I had a hard time. I think that in the future,
> arrangements need to be made in such a way that the participants on zoom Ken
> have better auditory access to what is happening at the meetings. And I
> absolutely, do not want to put this on Raul‘s shoulders, because it is not
> just the organizers, but also a matter of what is available at the venue,
> and, or, what was communicated to the venue ahead of time by the organizers
> at higher levels, so it’s definitely not a simple finger-pointing occasion,
> so please don’t let it seem like I’m saying that.
>
> Cindy, do you happen to know, if using that email address will work right
> now? That is, when the website is down, Raul said that the email address is
> based on that website would not work. Do we know if that means if you send
> an email now, that it will never get there? Or, it will simply wait around
> in the cloud, and when the website is back up and running, all the messages
> that were missed, will be sent to the appropriate board members? If there’s
> some question that bored at nagdu.org is not functional right now, would you be
> willing, Cindy, to summarize peoples feedback, complaints and frustrations,
> and let the NAGDU board know for us? Or perhaps you could simply ask the
> board to take a look at this thread on the email list, since their emails
> are not working at this time?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I would reccommend
>> that you all write to board at nagdu.org with issues. Also, put them in the
>> chat as they are happening. I didn’t think the sound was as good as at the
>> seminar.
>> Glad you were mostly pleased.
>> Btw, I believe broadcasting was at the front.
>>
>>
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 9:13 PM, robert stigile via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Shane,
>>> The issue was that the guy moderating the zoom room was using voiceover
>>> or talk back without an earpiece or headset.
>>> Therefore, every time he did something his speech was overriding the zoom
>>> room therefore it was difficult to hear the presenters.
>>>
>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>>> National Federation of the Blind of California
>>> President San Fernando Valley Chapter
>>> 818-381-9568
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 6:02 PM, Debbe Gabe via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to listen to the seminar but got confused on the time
>>>> difference. I am 5 hours behind Louisiana time!
>>>> Yes, some of the audio with the guy from Lift was hard to hear.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shane Popplestone
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 2:55 PM
>>>> To: mike at michaelhingson.com; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Shane Popplestone <shane.davidson at icloud.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] NAGDU Updates during convention
>>>>
>>>> The seminar stuff was much better, I wonder what the difference between
>>>> that setup and tonight's is, I wonder if the room is different, or if it
>>>> was a different computer, something was deffinitly different or not
>>>> configured properly.
>>>> My audio engineer self wanted to reach through the zoom program and fix
>>>> it, because I suspect I know exactly what was wrong, lol.
>>>> Shane
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com> To "'NAGDU Mailing
>>>> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc "'Shane Popplestone'" <shane.davidson at icloud.com> Date 7/7/2022
>>>> 8:29:27 PM Subject RE: [NAGDU] NAGDU Updates during convention
>>>>
>>>>> The audio quality indeed is not good. Whatever is broadcasting the
>>>>> meeting should be up at the front where speakers are located. Listening
>>>>> is quite frustrating.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Shane Popplestone
>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 5:05 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>>>>> Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Shane Popplestone <shane.davidson at icloud.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] NAGDU Updates during convention
>>>>>
>>>>> The iPhone is providing the zoom stream, because for some reason the
>>>>> computer didn't want to play ball, or at least, I think that's what
>>>>> happened considering the computer is in the room but all I hear from it
>>>>> is the screen reader.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From "robert stigile via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To "NAGDU Mailing
>>>>> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc "robert stigile" <rstigile at gmail.com> Date 7/7/2022 7:56:44 PM
>>>>> Subject Re: [NAGDU] NAGDU Updates during convention
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I am trying to listen to the meeting on zoom and someone has their
>>>>>> iphone near the device broadcasting the zoom and its very distracting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind of California President San Fernando
>>>>>> Valley Chapter
>>>>>> 818-381-9568
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2022, at 7:28 AM, Raul Gallegos - NFBTX via NAGDU
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, I have a few updates concerning NAGDU.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First, our seminar was a success. We shared a great amount of
>>>>>>>>> information and I feel that our presenters did an outstanding job.
>>>>>>>>> There were a lot of excellent questions and we had a good turn-out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Second, our business meeting is coming up, and we are looking
>>>>>>>>> forward to sharing even more information. The business meeting will
>>>>>>>>> be held on Thursday at 6 PM Central time in Studio 9 at the
>>>>>>>>> Marriott. The Zoom information will follow at the end of this
>>>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Last, the nagdu.org site is down. We are taking steps to getting
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>>>>>>>>> rgallegos at nfbtx.org <mailto:rgallegos at nfbtx.org>  or my personal
>>>>>>>>> mobile, 832-554-7285. I will send another email message when things
>>>>>>>>> are back up and running.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you everyone, and we hope to see you at the business meeting
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow night at 6 PM Central time. In person, it will be in
>>>>>>>>> Studio 9 at the Marriott. The Zoom information follows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Raul Gallegos / President
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 346-439-7444  |  rgallegos at nagdu.org <mailto:rgallegos at nagdu.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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