From albert.e.sten_clanton at verizon.net  Sun Oct  2 17:43:57 2022
From: albert.e.sten_clanton at verizon.net (Al Sten-Clanton)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:43:57 -0400
Subject: [NAGDU] yesterday's morning gathering
References: <1fbb4c89-e431-fe51-30e3-c88b67e01d7d.ref@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1fbb4c89-e431-fe51-30e3-c88b67e01d7d@verizon.net>

Greetings!


This is just a quick note to those at the gathering.? I didn't want to 
leave it without saying goodbye, but I really didn't want to break into 
the discussion goint on.? It was important.? My wife and I were heading 
off somewhere, and I wanted to give myself enough time to get ready.


Best!

Al




From cindyray at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 20:11:14 2022
From: cindyray at gmail.com (Cindy Ray)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 15:11:14 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] yesterday's morning gathering
In-Reply-To: <1fbb4c89-e431-fe51-30e3-c88b67e01d7d@verizon.net>
References: <1fbb4c89-e431-fe51-30e3-c88b67e01d7d@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <D01DAB94-3A44-4933-8BA9-442BB63D4A34@gmail.com>

Thank you for coming, Al. I was sorry we didn?t get to say goodbye. We are going to try educating  law enforcement and maybe some businesses. Then we will try for a January meeting.


Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:45 PM, Al Sten-Clanton via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Greetings!
> 
> 
> This is just a quick note to those at the gathering.  I didn't want to leave it without saying goodbye, but I really didn't want to break into the discussion goint on.  It was important.  My wife and I were heading off somewhere, and I wanted to give myself enough time to get ready.
> 
> 
> Best!
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> 
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From alyssahenson95 at gmail.com  Fri Oct  7 23:46:48 2022
From: alyssahenson95 at gmail.com (Alyssa Henson)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 18:46:48 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] Missouri Association of Guide Dog Users Fundraiser
Message-ID: <579BF14D-C21A-43EA-BBA3-59E0538FF9A6@gmail.com>

Hello NAGDU Members,
Here is some information about a fundraiser for the Missouri Association of Guide Dog users, (MAGDU), taking place this month. As a disclaimer, I am writing this as a member of MAGDU, not because of any association with On The Go Dog Gear. With that out of the way, here is the information.
The Missouri Association of Guide Dog Users, a proud division of the National Federation of the Blind of Missouri, is hosting a fundraiser during the entire month of October and cordially invites you to participate. The Missouri Association of Guide Dog Users, (MAGDU), is teaming up with ON The Go Dog Gear to have an event which will  assist MAGDU in continuing its work with guide dog handlers across the state of Missouri. . On The Go Dog Gear is most noteable for the sport style guide dog harness, but they have a wide array of products for guide dog teams and dog lovers overall. Some of these products include collars and leashes in a variety of materials and styles,  portable bowls, rollup dog beds, collar bells, harness pouches, dog themed human jewelry, and much more. To place an order with On The Go Dog Gear, please email them at onthegodoggear at gmail.com or call them at (402) 603-0811. You may also visit their online store at http://www.shop-onthego.com . Anyone who places an order with ON The Go and indicates participation in the fundraiser will get 10% of the proceeds from their entire order donated to MAGDU. If ordering online, there is a textbox right before the place order button that says notes for special processing. In that box, please let On The Go know you are taking part in this special event by writing MAGDU2022 or something sinilar. If you are placing your order by call or email, please inform customer service that you wish to participate in the fundraiser. Please remember you must let On The Go know you are doing the fundraiser so the proceeds are donated accordingly. Thank you for your continued support of the Missouri Association of Guide Dog Users.

All the best,
Alyssa Henson

From consuelo.johnson050 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  8 00:04:30 2022
From: consuelo.johnson050 at gmail.com (consuelo johnson)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 19:04:30 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] Missouri Association of Guide Dog Users Fundraiser
In-Reply-To: <579BF14D-C21A-43EA-BBA3-59E0538FF9A6@gmail.com>
References: <579BF14D-C21A-43EA-BBA3-59E0538FF9A6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFe1sN2FYVDB7WFgWMNsObxmNgzxuJWPFCdxXbbL8LpnT1HRQA@mail.gmail.com>

I would like to know when the next guy dog user meeting is would like to
participate if someone can email that information to me be greatly
appreciative thank you

On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 6:49 PM Alyssa Henson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello NAGDU Members,
> Here is some information about a fundraiser for the Missouri Association
> of Guide Dog users, (MAGDU), taking place this month. As a disclaimer, I am
> writing this as a member of MAGDU, not because of any association with On
> The Go Dog Gear. With that out of the way, here is the information.
> The Missouri Association of Guide Dog Users, a proud division of the
> National Federation of the Blind of Missouri, is hosting a fundraiser
> during the entire month of October and cordially invites you to
> participate. The Missouri Association of Guide Dog Users, (MAGDU), is
> teaming up with ON The Go Dog Gear to have an event which will  assist
> MAGDU in continuing its work with guide dog handlers across the state of
> Missouri. . On The Go Dog Gear is most noteable for the sport style guide
> dog harness, but they have a wide array of products for guide dog teams and
> dog lovers overall. Some of these products include collars and leashes in a
> variety of materials and styles,  portable bowls, rollup dog beds, collar
> bells, harness pouches, dog themed human jewelry, and much more. To place
> an order with On The Go Dog Gear, please email them at
> onthegodoggear at gmail.com or call them at (402) 603-0811. You may also
> visit their online store at http://www.shop-onthego.com . Anyone who
> places an order with ON The Go and indicates participation in the
> fundraiser will get 10% of the proceeds from their entire order donated to
> MAGDU. If ordering online, there is a textbox right before the place order
> button that says notes for special processing. In that box, please let On
> The Go know you are taking part in this special event by writing MAGDU2022
> or something sinilar. If you are placing your order by call or email,
> please inform customer service that you wish to participate in the
> fundraiser. Please remember you must let On The Go know you are doing the
> fundraiser so the proceeds are donated accordingly. Thank you for your
> continued support of the Missouri Association of Guide Dog Users.
>
> All the best,
> Alyssa Henson
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> NAGDU:
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be well and blessed

From rstigile at gmail.com  Sun Oct  9 18:03:22 2022
From: rstigile at gmail.com (Robert Stigile)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 11:03:22 -0700
Subject: [NAGDU] CAGDU Wag-a-thon
Message-ID: <052EA9F0-AB83-43E4-A2D9-F6DED0407E34@gmail.com>

?Hi All,

Come join the California Association of Guide Dog Users (CAGDU) as we
challenge you all to a fun filled weekend of walking or running.  See how
many steps you can get in on Saturday October 29th & Sunday October 30th and
be one of the top three winners!  Grab your walking/running shoes and get
stepping!

When:   Saturday October 29th & Sunday October 30th, 2022
Where:  Virtually Everywhere
Cost:      $10.00 to Register
How to join the fun:
1.  Fill out the Registration form at
<https://ulwxastpyh.formstack.com/forms/wag_a_thon>
https://ulwxastpyh.formstack.com/forms/wag_a_thon
2.  On Saturday & Sunday October 29th & 30th walk/run with your guide dog or
cane virtually anywhere and everywhere
2.  Use any tracking app or device to count your steps on both days
3.  On Monday October 31st by 11:59 pm, send Tiffany Manosh an email at
tmanosh at gmail.com <mailto:tmanosh at gmail.com>  with your name and total
number of steps
4.  CAGDU will then draw the three lucky winners at State Convention
Prizes:
1st Place ? $100 Apple Gift Card
2nd Place ? $75 Amazon Gift Card
3rd Place ? $50 Starbucks Gift Card
Let's get stepping and have some fun!
Robert Stigile, Second Vice-president
National Federation of the Blind of California
Treasurer California Association of Guide Dog Users
President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568


From heather.l.bird at gmail.com  Mon Oct 10 01:42:50 2022
From: heather.l.bird at gmail.com (Heather Bird)
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 21:42:50 -0400
Subject: [NAGDU] NYAGDU 2022 seminar in business meeting
Message-ID: <CAJdVJsa9=Zwa74=aALm7txjGu8QyHE8c1+6g3Zma7=cqGPcjXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Please come and join us next Sunday, October 16, for our 2022 seminar and
business meeting.

The New York Association Of Guide Dog Users will be presenting a seminar,
virtually, at the National Federation Of The Blind of New York State's
Annual Convention. This year, the convention will be presented in a hybrid
format.  As such, many of its groups and divisions, including the New York
Association Of Guide Dog Users will be holding its seminar using the Zoom
platform. The seminar will take place from 6 PM until 8 PM, followed by our
business meeting from 8 PM until 9 PM, Eastern Standard Time.

Let?s get ready to engage in some myth busting, Guide Dog Edition. We will
be  exploring a range of topics, from the ludicrous and therefore humorous,
to the informative and educational, through the lens of common
misconceptions, misunderstandings, and myths that have sprung up
surrounding guide and service dogs and their handlers.

The seminar will be presented in an interactive format, and will be
informative not only to first time and prospective guide dog handlers, but
will provide useful information to seasoned guide dog handlers, plus, an
opportunity to engage in discussion.

So, please join us on Zoom, and bring along a few myths of your own. If we
don?t address them in our main presentation, you can bring them up at the
end for general discussion. Yes, there will be door prizes, and yes, some
of them may be T-shirts, and some of them may be other fun items. Please
feel free to stay with us after the seminar for our business meeting, where
we will discuss the launch of our People+Paws+Pages Guide Dog book club
with it?s first selection in November, the upcoming reprint of last year?s
T-shirts, upon popular request, and various other projects and endeavors.

Topic: NYAGDU Seminar and Business Meeting
Time: Oct 16, 2022 06:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting
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Meeting ID: 810 8366 7588
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From sgallegos at nagdu.org  Thu Oct 13 20:16:20 2022
From: sgallegos at nagdu.org (Stacie Gallegos - NAGDU)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:16:20 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] Come Join us for the Next Yappy Hour On Saturday, October 15,
 2022
Message-ID: <C5861E08-7496-4C3E-9AA6-DC0D36162D79@nagdu.org>

		Greetings from NAGDU,


We hope this email finds everyone doing well and continuing to stay safe. For those who are welcoming in the Fall season, Please feel free to send some cooler temps this way. If you are someone who pays attention to dates, you will notice that this weeks  Yappy  Hour takes place on the official White Cane Safety Day. 
please share this announcement wherever appropriate.

The National Association of Guide Dog Users would like to invite you to our next Yappy hour. The Yappy hour is a virtual social gathering to socialize and have a good time.


Everyone is welcome whether you are a current or former guide dog user, thinking about becoming a guide dog user, are a puppy raiser or trainer, are friends with other guide dog users, puppy raisers, or trainers, or simply think that guide dog users are cool.


This informal meeting takes place every two weeks unless otherwise noted. By informal, we truly mean it. While serious topics about guide dog users may come up from time to time, we will not be holding any NAGDU or NFB business during this meeting. The meeting information is as follows.


Date: Saturday, October 15,  2022.

Time: 3 PM Eastern. (This calculates as 2 PM Central, 1 PM Mountain, 12 noon Pacific, and 11 AM Alaska.)

Where: Zoom.


Direct-Connect Information:

    * Link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82310852263?pwd=ZFpwN1lBdFYwWXc4blM4K05pZnVVUT09 <https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82310852263?pwd=ZFpwN1lBdFYwWXc4blM4K05pZnVVUT09>
    * Meeting ID: 823 1085 2263

    * Passcode: 632


One-Tap Mobile Connection Information:

    * +13462487799,,82310852263# US (Houston)

    * +16699009128,,82310852263# US (San Jose)


Land Line Dial-in Information:

    * (346) 248-7799 US (Houston)

    * (669) 900-9128 US (San Jose)

    * Meeting ID: 823 1085 2263

Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kdh36WDD1y <https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kdh36WDD1y>
To be recognized as a valid participant, we ask that you use your real name when connecting. Otherwise, you might not be admitted.


The information for this meeting, along with other NAGDU events is available in the NAGDU Public Calendar, which you can subscribe to by following this link:

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/nagdu.org_7eopjofhnd4968m46rcmgrck0s%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/nagdu.org_7eopjofhnd4968m46rcmgrck0s at group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics>
If you have any questions about Yappy Hour or anything else concerning NAGDU, please contact the NAGDU board of directors, board at nagdu.org <mailto:board at nagdu.org>, 346-439-7444.


Thank you, and we look forward to seeing you this Saturday.





?
Stacie Gallegos / Secretary
National Association of Guide Dog Users
Https://www.nagdu.org <https://www.nagdu.org/>
(346) 439-7444  |  SGallegos at nagdu.org <mailto:SGallegos at nagdu.org>
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?







?
Stacie Gallegos / President
National Federation of the Blind Houston Chapter
Https://www.nfbtx.org <https://www.nfbtx.org/>
(346) 704-0190  |  SGallegos at nfbtx.org <mailto:SGallegos at nfbtx.org>
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?








?
Stacie Gallegos / Secretary
National Association of Guide Dog Users
Https://www.nagdu.org
(346) 439-7444  |  SGallegos at nagdu.org
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?





From sgallegos at nagdu.org  Sat Oct 15 02:46:31 2022
From: sgallegos at nagdu.org (Stacie Gallegos - NAGDU)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:46:31 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] Come Join us for the Next Guide Dog Matters On Sunday,
 October 16, 2022
Message-ID: <E6C16749-E7DA-4E70-BB31-B36C1F90865B@nagdu.org>

Greetings from NAGDU,

We hope everyones? Fall Season is off to a great start.

please share this announcement wherever appropriate.


The National Association of Guide Dog Users would like to invite you to our next Guide Dog Matters seminar. This is a one-hour presentation on a specific topic related to guide dog users. The seminar typically takes place on the third Sunday of every month unless otherwise noted. For those who are not able to attend, the presentation will be recorded and shared on the list as well as the NAGDU Facebook page.


This month's topic will be an interactive discussion regarding taking our guide dogs to sporting events and other entertainment venues. With Football season in full swing, and the start of the World Series only a couple of weeks away, for some, taking their guide dog may be a necessity while for others, taking their guide dog may not be the best idea. What is right, what is preferred, and how should you best decide? We will have an interactive discussion about the pros and cons should you decide to take your dog and things to consider should you decide to leave your dog behind.



Date: Sunday, October 16, 2022.

Time: 3 PM Eastern. / 12 noon Pacific. Please consult the NAGDU calendar or your favorite time conversion method to find the correct time for your location.

Where: Zoom.


Direct-Connect Information:

    * Link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85450651290?pwd=RXRCQ0tteW1xd3JSR3dWY2pVM3crdz09 <https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85450651290?pwd=RXRCQ0tteW1xd3JSR3dWY2pVM3crdz09>
    * Meeting ID: 854 5065 1290

    * Passcode: 632


One-Tap Mobile Connection Information:

    * +13462487799,,85450651290# US (Houston)

    * +16699009128,,85450651290# US (San Jose)


Land Line Dial-in Information:

    * (346) 248-7799 US (Houston)

    * (669) 900-9128 US (San Jose)

    * Meeting ID: 854 5065 1290

Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kdh36WDD1y <https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kdh36WDD1y>
To be recognized as a valid participant, we ask that you use your real name when connecting. Otherwise, you might not be admitted.


The information for this meeting, along with other NAGDU events is available in the NAGDU Public Calendar, which you can subscribe to by following this link:

https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/nagdu.org_7eopjofhnd4968m46rcmgrck0s%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/nagdu.org_7eopjofhnd4968m46rcmgrck0s at group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics>
If you have any questions about this seminar or if you would like to submit a topic for future discussion, please email Stacie Gallegos directly at sgallegos at nagdu.org <mailto:sgallegos at nagdu.org>.




Thank you, and we look forward to seeing you this Sunday.



?
Stacie Gallegos / Secretary
National Association of Guide Dog Users
Https://www.nagdu.org <https://www.nagdu.org/>
(346) 439-7444  |  SGallegos at nagdu.org <mailto:SGallegos at nagdu.org>
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?





From ichoosechrist2 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 15 23:30:16 2022
From: ichoosechrist2 at gmail.com (Yiska)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:30:16 -0600
Subject: [NAGDU] Burning Man
Message-ID: <CALaWVTG8xFS-WC6SYR=N1RHGz0xDs65oBHKDODsYrusrdYTxkg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I am wondering if anyone has taken their guide to Burning Man and what that
process was like for them. It is on BLM land but you need tickets for it.
The website says no dogs allowed but our dogs don?t qualify under that
category. If you have attended what was your experience like? Thanks
Yiska

From heather.l.bird at gmail.com  Sun Oct 16 19:00:11 2022
From: heather.l.bird at gmail.com (Heather Bird)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 15:00:11 -0400
Subject: [NAGDU] NYAGDU 2022 Seminar and Business Meeting
Message-ID: <CAJdVJsamz48khUmt8BkZC2Leh-YnAJCxMWz5MFx0rsi4Vit2pg@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

Just a reminder that the annual convention seminar and business meeting for
the New York Association of Guide Dog Users will be held over Zoom this
evening.

We will begin at 6:00 PM, Eastern Standard Time, with a Board Meeting to
begin around 8:00 PM.

Please come and join us for conversation, education, information,
amusement, and door prizes. Come find out about the book club launching
this evening as well as upcoming projects for 2023.

Hope to see you there

Heather Bird


Topic: NYAGDU Seminar and Business Meeting
Time: Oct 16, 2022 06:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting
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From missktlab1217 at frontier.com  Thu Oct 27 13:11:35 2022
From: missktlab1217 at frontier.com (Lisa Belville)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 08:11:35 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] Filling out American's Health and Behavior Form
References: <f7c4b529-a251-620c-c329-382ebf9d5179.ref@frontier.com>
Message-ID: <f7c4b529-a251-620c-c329-382ebf9d5179@frontier.com>

Hi, all.

I'm trying to fill out a form on American Airlines web site in order to 
travel with my guide dog.? The form is in both PDF and Adobe Acrobat, 
I'm trying the PDF version.

The PDF form doesn't seem to have any way to access form fields, etc.? 
I'm using NVDA 2022.1 and the latest version of Chrome.


What methods have you used to get this form filled out and submitted?


I got conflicting information from American when I made my reservation 
three weeks ago, so now I'm scrambling to get everything filled out on 
time.? <sigh>


The link to the form is:
https://www.aa.com/content/images/travel-info/special-assistance/service-animals/dot-service-animal-health-behavior-training-form.pdf


Any help would be appreciated.

-- 
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com



From MAllman at seeingeye.org  Thu Oct 27 13:23:44 2022
From: MAllman at seeingeye.org (Melissa Allman)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:23:44 +0000
Subject: [NAGDU] Filling out American's Health and Behavior Form
In-Reply-To: <f7c4b529-a251-620c-c329-382ebf9d5179@frontier.com>
References: <f7c4b529-a251-620c-c329-382ebf9d5179.ref@frontier.com>
 <f7c4b529-a251-620c-c329-382ebf9d5179@frontier.com>
Message-ID: <BN9PR18MB41546EC2E8A3EE08EE42F0D9AA339@BN9PR18MB4154.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Lisa. You need to use Adobe to open the form. It will not be fillable in your browser. Hope this helps.


Melissa

Melissa Allman
Senior Specialist, Advocacy and Government Relations 
The Seeing Eye 
P.O. Box 375, Morristown, NJ?07963-0375 (mail)
1 Seeing Eye Way, Morristown, NJ?07960-3378 (deliveries)
973-539-4425 ext. x1724?| mallman at seeingeye.org |?www.SeeingEye.org

Your support helps us create extraordinary teams. Please help The Seeing Eye by making a donation today. 



-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville via NAGDU
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2022 9:12 AM
To: NAGDU List <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Lisa Belville <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
Subject: [NAGDU] Filling out American's Health and Behavior Form

Hi, all.

I'm trying to fill out a form on American Airlines web site in order to travel with my guide dog.? The form is in both PDF and Adobe Acrobat, I'm trying the PDF version.

The PDF form doesn't seem to have any way to access form fields, etc. I'm using NVDA 2022.1 and the latest version of Chrome.


What methods have you used to get this form filled out and submitted?


I got conflicting information from American when I made my reservation three weeks ago, so now I'm scrambling to get everything filled out on time.? <sigh>


The link to the form is:
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From sgallegos at nagdu.org  Fri Oct 28 00:01:37 2022
From: sgallegos at nagdu.org (Stacie Gallegos - NAGDU)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 19:01:37 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] Come Join us for the Next Yappy Hour On Saturday, October 29,
 2022
Message-ID: <56F49614-774E-462B-879E-790FC9C13700@nagdu.org>

				Greetings from NAGDU,


We hope this email finds everyone doing well and continuing to stay safe. I?m happy to report that Fall weather has finally arrived here in Texas! 
please share this announcement wherever appropriate.

The National Association of Guide Dog Users would like to invite you to our next Yappy hour. The Yappy hour is a virtual social gathering to socialize and have a good time.


Everyone is welcome whether you are a current or former guide dog user, thinking about becoming a guide dog user, are a puppy raiser or trainer, are friends with other guide dog users, puppy raisers, or trainers, or simply think that guide dog users are cool.


This informal meeting takes place every two weeks unless otherwise noted. By informal, we truly mean it. While serious topics about guide dog users may come up from time to time, we will not be holding any NAGDU or NFB business during this meeting. The meeting information is as follows.


Date: Saturday, October 29,  2022.

Time: 3 PM Eastern. (This calculates as 2 PM Central, 1 PM Mountain, 12 noon Pacific, and 11 AM Alaska.)

Where: Zoom.


Direct-Connect Information:

    * Link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82310852263?pwd=ZFpwN1lBdFYwWXc4blM4K05pZnVVUT09 <https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82310852263?pwd=ZFpwN1lBdFYwWXc4blM4K05pZnVVUT09>
    * Meeting ID: 823 1085 2263

    * Passcode: 632


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    * +13462487799,,82310852263# US (Houston)

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Land Line Dial-in Information:

    * (346) 248-7799 US (Houston)

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The information for this meeting, along with other NAGDU events is available in the NAGDU Public Calendar, which you can subscribe to by following this link:

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If you have any questions about Yappy Hour or anything else concerning NAGDU, please contact the NAGDU board of directors, board at nagdu.org <mailto:board at nagdu.org>, 346-439-7444.


Thank you, and we look forward to seeing you this Saturday.





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Stacie Gallegos / Secretary
National Association of Guide Dog Users
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(346) 439-7444  |  SGallegos at nagdu.org <mailto:SGallegos at nagdu.org>
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?







?
Stacie Gallegos / President
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?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?








?
Stacie Gallegos / Secretary
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(346) 439-7444  |  SGallegos at nagdu.org <mailto:SGallegos at nagdu.org>
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?







?
Stacie Gallegos / Secretary
National Association of Guide Dog Users
Https://www.nagdu.org <https://www.nagdu.org/>
(346) 439-7444  |  SGallegos at nagdu.org <mailto:SGallegos at nagdu.org>
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?







?
Stacie Gallegos / Secretary
National Association of Guide Dog Users
Https://www.nagdu.org
(346) 439-7444  |  SGallegos at nagdu.org
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?





From sgallegos at nagdu.org  Fri Oct 28 00:36:23 2022
From: sgallegos at nagdu.org (Stacie Gallegos - NAGDU)
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 19:36:23 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] Come Join the National Association of Guide Dog Users Board
 of Director's Meeting on Sunday, October 30, 2022
Message-ID: <6832F50A-8A27-4BD0-8A26-974532311CA2@nagdu.org>

	Greetings from NAGDU,



I?m happy to report that Fall has finally arrived here in Texas.  It?s once again time for the monthly Board of Directors  Meeting. The meeting details are below. If you would like to submit questions to the NAGDU Board to be addressed during the  meeting, please send an email with your questions to board at nagdu.org <mailto:board at nagdu.org>. The deadline to email questions for this month?s meeting will be by 12 PM Central time on Sunday, October 30, 2022. 

 Come join the National Association of Guide Dog Users board of directors meeting 	 this Sunday, October 30, 2022. please share this announcement wherever appropriate.


It is time once again for the National Association of Guide Dog Users board of directors monthly meeting. We hope you will be able to join us this coming Sunday. The Zoom meeting information follows.


Meeting Name: NAGDU Monthly Board Meeting

Date: Sunday, October  30, 2022

Time: 8 PM Eastern, 7 PM Central, 6 PM Mountain, 5 PM Pacific, 4 PM Alaska


App Connection

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Meeting ID: 632 632 5800

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Meeting ID: 632 632 5800


To be recognized as a valid participant when joining from a computer, smartphone, or tablet, we ask that you use your real name when connecting. Otherwise, you might not be admitted.


This meeting, along with all other NAGDU events is available in the NAGDU Public Events Calendar, which you can subscribe to by following this link:

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If you have any questions about this meeting or about any other NAGDU events, please contact the National Association of Guide Dog Users board of directors, board at nagdu.org <mailto:board at nagdu.org>, 346-439-7444.


Thank you, and we look forward to seeing you this Sunday.





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Stacie Gallegos / Secretary
National Association of Guide Dog Users
Https://www.nagdu.org <https://www.nagdu.org/>
(346) 439-7444  |  SGallegos at nagdu.org <mailto:SGallegos at nagdu.org>
?You can live the life you want. Blindness is not what holds you back.?





From madison.martin2000 at outlook.com  Mon Oct 31 19:35:48 2022
From: madison.martin2000 at outlook.com (madison.martin2000 at outlook.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:35:48 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] books on guide dogs
Message-ID: <SA0PR06MB6923EDE09E288E78B8956B288E379@SA0PR06MB6923.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi ladies, 
Do any of you know of any books on/about guide dogs that you'd recommend?
Preferibly non-fiction; I know there are ones about the different schools but I
worry about current they are as things have likely changed. Just curious; look
forward to any recommendations that any of you can provide me!! Thanks
Madison
 

From madison.martin2000 at outlook.com  Mon Oct 31 19:43:29 2022
From: madison.martin2000 at outlook.com (madison.martin2000 at outlook.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 14:43:29 -0500
Subject: [NAGDU] re-posting: books on guide dogs
Message-ID: <SA0PR06MB692352390B9906AE5B00F69F8E379@SA0PR06MB6923.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi all,
Re-posting as I realized that I forgot to change the greeting.
Do any of you know of any books on/about guide dogs that you'd recommend?
Preferibly non-fiction; I know there are ones about the different schools but I
worry about current they are as things have likely changed. Just curious; look
forward to any recommendations that any of you can provide me!! Thanks Madison

From tinabell92 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 19:46:23 2022
From: tinabell92 at gmail.com (Tina Haskin-Reisner)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 13:46:23 -0600
Subject: [NAGDU] books on guide dogs
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Follow my leader and thunder dog.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 1:36 PM madison.martin2000--- via NAGDU <
nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi ladies,
> Do any of you know of any books on/about guide dogs that you'd recommend?
> Preferibly non-fiction; I know there are ones about the different schools
> but I
> worry about current they are as things have likely changed. Just curious;
> look
> forward to any recommendations that any of you can provide me!! Thanks
> Madison
>
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From richardfiorello716 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 31 19:47:57 2022
From: richardfiorello716 at gmail.com (richardfiorello716 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 15:47:57 -0400
Subject: [NAGDU] books on guide dogs
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Hi;
Well I'm not a lady but you get my two cents anyway.  The book I stumbled
across that I liked is called forward together.  It is on bard and the
number is db100008
It was written by an instructor who worked at leader, seeing eye and I
believe geb.  It was written in 2017 and lots has happened since then but of
the books I've tried reading I thought that this was by far the best.
Once again just my two cents.
Richard


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via NAGDU
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Cc: madison.martin2000 at outlook.com
Subject: [NAGDU] books on guide dogs

Hi ladies,
Do any of you know of any books on/about guide dogs that you'd recommend?
Preferibly non-fiction; I know there are ones about the different schools
but I worry about current they are as things have likely changed. Just
curious; look forward to any recommendations that any of you can provide
me!! Thanks Madison
 
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From sherry.gomes at outlook.com  Mon Oct 31 19:58:52 2022
From: sherry.gomes at outlook.com (Sherry Gomes)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 19:58:52 +0000
Subject: [NAGDU] re-posting: books on guide dogs
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If you don't mind books generally for or about young people, here are a couple.

Follow my leader
Written in 1957 I think. Doesn't name any specific school, but if you've gone to a particular one you would recognize it by the street names. I read this book when I was seven, and though at the time, I had no idea what blind mobility and orientation was, I vowed right then that I would get one of those guide dogs someday. I had cane mobility from eight grade through graduating from high school, and my instructor knew I wanted to get a dog, some in the last year, she helped me learn some transition skills from a cane to a dog. I got my first dog, age 17, after high school, in 1975. All that nonsense to say this book inspired me and I never gave up on that dream. It also has a very positive view of blindness for the times.

Steve and the guide dogs
I don't know if this is available anymore, but this takes a different look at things and is about a teenage boy raising guide dog puppies.



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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 12:43 PM
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Subject: [NAGDU] re-posting: books on guide dogs

Hi all,
Re-posting as I realized that I forgot to change the greeting.
Do any of you know of any books on/about guide dogs that you'd recommend?
Preferibly non-fiction; I know there are ones about the different schools but I worry about current they are as things have likely changed. Just curious; look forward to any recommendations that any of you can provide me!! Thanks Madison _______________________________________________
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From debbiegabe at live.com  Mon Oct 31 22:41:52 2022
From: debbiegabe at live.com (Debbie Gabe)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 22:41:52 +0000
Subject: [NAGDU] re-posting: books on guide dogs
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A friend suggested that I read Forward Together, which is on BARD. It's very detailed. The author used to work for many years at the Leader school in Michigan and her husband now works for Guide Dogs for the Blind in California.  It might have more detailed than you want, but as someone who worked for 50 years teaching deaf babies and their parents later blind adults and then after I retired  deciding if I wanted to apply for a dog after using a cane for decades, I loved it.  I recognized many of the teaching techniques that we used with young children during hearing testing.

I also thought the book Thunderdog, also on BARD, was great. I put off reading it for years because I assumed it was mostly about 9-11, but it actually was mostly about the author, Michael Hingson's life and his dogs.

Good luck
Debbie Gabe
NFB of Hawaii

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] re-posting: books on guide dogs

If you don't mind books generally for or about young people, here are a couple.

Follow my leader
Written in 1957 I think. Doesn't name any specific school, but if you've gone to a particular one you would recognize it by the street names. I read this book when I was seven, and though at the time, I had no idea what blind mobility and orientation was, I vowed right then that I would get one of those guide dogs someday. I had cane mobility from eight grade through graduating from high school, and my instructor knew I wanted to get a dog, some in the last year, she helped me learn some transition skills from a cane to a dog. I got my first dog, age 17, after high school, in 1975. All that nonsense to say this book inspired me and I never gave up on that dream. It also has a very positive view of blindness for the times.

Steve and the guide dogs
I don't know if this is available anymore, but this takes a different look at things and is about a teenage boy raising guide dog puppies.



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Subject: [NAGDU] re-posting: books on guide dogs

Hi all,
Re-posting as I realized that I forgot to change the greeting.
Do any of you know of any books on/about guide dogs that you'd recommend?
Preferibly non-fiction; I know there are ones about the different schools but I worry about current they are as things have likely changed. Just curious; look forward to any recommendations that any of you can provide me!! Thanks Madison _______________________________________________
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From debbiegabe at live.com  Mon Oct 31 23:09:35 2022
From: debbiegabe at live.com (Debbie Gabe)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 23:09:35 +0000
Subject: [NAGDU] books on guide dogs
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Here's another one:
The Leading Lady, Dinah's Story.
Also on Bard. By Betty White about Tom Sullivan and his guide dogs. She adopted his first guide dog.



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Follow my leader and thunder dog.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 1:36 PM madison.martin2000--- via NAGDU < nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi ladies,
> Do any of you know of any books on/about guide dogs that you'd recommend?
> Preferibly non-fiction; I know there are ones about the different 
> schools but I worry about current they are as things have likely 
> changed. Just curious; look forward to any recommendations that any of 
> you can provide me!! Thanks Madison
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Oh, if you like more fiction, there's light a Single Candle and its sequel Gift of Gold, by Beverly Butler. I think that's the author name. It's about more than just the main character getting a guide dog, but both books are pretty good. They are available on BARD, if you use that service.



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Here's another one:
The Leading Lady, Dinah's Story.
Also on Bard. By Betty White about Tom Sullivan and his guide dogs. She adopted his first guide dog.



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Follow my leader and thunder dog.
On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 1:36 PM madison.martin2000--- via NAGDU < nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi ladies,
> Do any of you know of any books on/about guide dogs that you'd recommend?
> Preferibly non-fiction; I know there are ones about the different 
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> changed. Just curious; look forward to any recommendations that any of 
> you can provide me!! Thanks Madison
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