[NAGDU] Spirit Airlines incident

[Cindy Ray]

 Greetings all, Gloria, while I respect your opinion, some of the things you suggest are going to make it more and more likely that we have to report we’re bringing a dog, etc. Comparing dogs curling up and children curling up is two different things. The dogs will do it readily, especially if they’re asked to do it on a regular basis. Whether we’re on a plane or in a crowded room, the one thing we need to do is see that our dogs are curled up and out of the way so people don’t trip on them, or a variety of other things. Cindy Lou Ray Moderator Cindyy ray at gmail.com 

Cindy Lou Ray
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> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:14 AM, gloria profusek via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I heard that story quite a while ago. The dog was not a guide dog. Most guide dog denial or removal stories seem to be related to the size of the dog or failing to restrain the dog.
>  Removal Of Blind Man, Service Dog From Flight Sparks Outrage : The Two-Way : NPRservice dog removed from airplane - Bing video
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> I have to say, the small seating space in a plane does not comfortably allow a guide dog (which is usually 60+ pounds) space to l lay for hours on end. Imagine a 60 pound child laying at his mother's feet during an entire flight without becoming fidgity or distressed. Not happening! Our dogs are well trained, true, but they are not machines and deserve an appropriate space on airlines. I would like to see airline regulations to allow guide dogs and handlers who notify the airlines in advance to have reserved bulkhead seating. Southwest accommodates me with bulkhead seats when flying with my 80 pound lab. Delta will make arrangements but I think you have to call and ask. 
> Gloria
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlene Ota via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Charlene Ota <caota4 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2022 11:29 pm
> Subject: [NAGDU] Spirit Airlines incident
> 
> I was wondering if anyone else has seen a situation that happened on Spirit
> Airlines in the last couple weeks.  I was at lunch last week and a couple of
> the people I was with had seen it on national news.  Apparently, someone was
> traveling with their guide dog and for some reason the airlines took the dog
> and put it in cargo, not in the pressurized area mind you, and the dog froze
> to death.  I was horrified to hear such a thing and haven't heard anything
> about it since.
> 
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