[NAGDU] Question about share ride drivers and dog hair

Tue Dec 19 19:40:22 UTC 2023

You make  really good points.
I personally think the rideshare problem is a combination of both driver being discriminatory and dog owners not being aware enough of their dogs.  And I say that from my own experience at national conventions over the decades- too many dog owners not knowing when their dogs peein the elevators or poo in hotel corridors or lying across walkways.  so, I beg dog owners to do your part and pay attention to what the dog is doing and please groom often - don't give the rideshare drivers any reason to discriminate against you unfairly!
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On Dec 18, 2023, at 3:16 PM, Diane Graves via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Hi All,

I'm afraid I can't help but think that some of the drivers who claim to be concerned about residual dog hair and lawsuits by passengers with allergies are "reaching" just a bit in an attempt to justify themselves.

If they are worried about lawsuits by the occasional passenger with potential allergies, then why aren't they worried about lawsuits or charges for law violations pertaining to passengers with service animals?

Secondly, while we all know that our dogs are prone to shedding, it is very difficult for me to believe that a 15/20 minute ride to a shopping mall or medical appointment is going to result in enough dog hair to pose any type of a problem. Particularly if the dog is stationery on the floor. Again, I believe they are simply making excuses to justify their own acts of discrimination.

It would be interesting to know whether any of the drivers who were claiming concerns about passengers with allergies were wearing perfume or cologne, or had an air freshener in their car...

All that said, I agree that carrying a mat or towel if one can do that is a good solution and should resolve this concern.

Robin (Diane) Graves
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Question about share ride drivers and dog hair

It seems a fair point that some of us should groom our dogs more often, including me.  I don't go in many cars these days, but if I did I'd certainly brush him more often.  I did it on Friday specifically to minimize the hair in the house where we had the family Christmas party yesterday.  So I can understand a driver not wanting a dog that looks and smells like hell and may leave a whole rug behind in the car.

That said, I doubt the quick judgments and denials I've seen and experienced suggest that the driver did not actually check whether there was a real problem, but just assumed it.  Unless it's clear to me somehow that either the dog or the handler did something wrong, my presumption is that the driver is not trying reasonably to know the facts but has jumped to a conclusion.

Al

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Joy, I get what you’re saying, but it’s really quite judgmental. There could be various circumstances. Some people grooming, the dog still shed a lot. In any case, you can’t refuse to take a dog because somebody didn’t groom it. That’s irrelevant. And I really don’t think we have the right to make that kind of judgments here.
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Cindy Lou Ray
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On Dec 17, 2023, at 7:25 PM, Debbie Gabe via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

I know my husband has a really hard time getting my dog's fur out of  his floor mat  in his car. So I put towels down in my husband's car.  Plus I groom the dog every single day.  If a blind person does not groom their dog often, I don't blame ride share drivers at all!
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On Dec 17, 2023, at 12:57 PM, Joy Relton via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Hi all,

I recently took a Lyft to a shopping center near my house. The woman
was not happy that she had to pick me up with my dog guide but did so nonetheless.
As we were driving I engaged her in conversation about her resistance
to taking the dog and she told me that many drivers are concerned
because if they take a dog guide in their car and they aren't able to
get all of the dog hair out before someone rides with them who has
severe allergies the company will do nothing to help them with any law
suits. I was curious whether others have ever had a driver express
this concern. The logical solution is to have a specific percentage of
cars be allergy-free so no perfumes,, dog etc. The problem would be
that they couldn't guarantee that one of the passengers wouldn't have
a pet at home and bring some of their fur on their clothing without
any knowledge. Has anyone else had any similar experiences?

Joy and Vicky, Who says that the brisk air out there makes for fine
walking and hopes that all of her colleagues out there are getting similar walks.

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