[NAGDU] guide horse

Gretchen Brown gretch99brown at gmail.com
Wed Jun 21 22:20:49 UTC 2023


Josh, according to the new airline regulations, horses cannot fly. Only
dogs and only service dogs. Maybe they would let you do it if it was a pet
but not 100% sure. Gretchen

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 6:13 PM Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> I thought the horses had finally been accepted.
>
> C
> indy Lou Ray
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 21, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Jody ianuzzi via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > In 2011, the ADA restricted assistance animals to dogs. So many people
> tried passing off all kinds of exotic animals as assistance animals that it
> caused a lot of trouble. Guide horses that were working at the time were
> grandfathered in and allowed to continue but I don’t think new guide horses
> are permitted under the ADA.
> >
> > it is difficult enough to get through the grocery store with a guy dog
> without drawing attention, having a guide horse would probably make it even
> more difficult to go to public places.
> >
> > I absolutely adore horses, but I don’t think they’re appropriate animals
> to be guides. Horses are a flight animal  And would require a lot of
> socialization and desensitizing in order to work in a heavy traffic
> environment.
> >
> > There’s also the difficulty that they have to wear appropriate shoes and
> a toileting harness at all times. They don’t fold easily in a small space
> such as under an airline seat, or in a car.
> >
> > I think the advantage of the horse has they have a much longer life than
> a dog, but loving both dogs and horses. I can’t imagine having a guide
> horse.
> >
> > JODY
> >
> > To Boldly Go  🖖🏻
> >
> >
> > thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
> >
> > "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
> Erik Weihenmayer
> >
> >> On Jun 21, 2023, at 4:21 PM, Josh via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Isn't there any possible way I could have a class A 26 to 30 inch tall
> mini horse guide animal? A guide horse? Could a guide dog school train one
> for me? Ann Edie has her guide horse, Panda, after all, who was trained by
> Alexandra Kurland. The more time I spend with Jazzy, the more I love mini
> horses! I feel very very safe and comfortable with miniature horses.
> >>
> >> Josh
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Leye-Shprintse
> Teller via NAGDU
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 14:19
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: Leye-Shprintse Teller <leyeshprintse at icloud.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno
> >>
> >> BS’D
> >>
> >> Josh,
> >>
> >> I’d say that your experience of being dragged around has less to do
> with the guide dog than the specific guide dog which you were working with.
> When I got my first guide dog, now passed, I was on an Information Course
> before I was accepted, it’s the routine in my country of birth, and I got
> to work three different guide dogs, a male Labradoodle, a male Labrador and
> a female Labrador. The boys dragged me around because their physical size
> and pace didn’t match me, the small female Labrador with several walking
> speeds matched me better and when I got my first guide dog Hera, she was
> the perfect match for me. I don’t want to minimalize your experience but
> guide dogs are like us humans, different. You need to have the best match
> for you to get a smoothly partnership for both human and dog.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> לשלום,
> >> Leye-Shprintse Teller
> >> Brooklyn (N.Y.), U.S.
> >> +1 (929) 977-8890
> >> leyeshprintse at icloud.com
> >> www.leyeshprintse.com
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone XR
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 21, 2023, at 7:52 AM, Josh via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I wish I could do a juno walk with a guide horse somehow. I would
> absolutely love that! Specifically a class A 26 to 30 inch tall mini guide
> horse. I visited a guide dog school over 20 years ago. I felt I was being
> dragged by the dog. When I walk with the female mini horse with  the lead
> rope. Note I do not own the horse... anyway she has a nice fluid smooth
> motion when she walks. She doesn't pull me at all, like the dog at the
> guide dog school did, and unless like the one time she was distracted by
> some grass getting her back on track is relatively easy. At least for me it
> is. I would love a guide horse similar to Jazzy someday. She is such a good
> little horse!!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Stephanie
> Mcdowell via NAGDU
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 7:41
> >>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Cc: Stephanie Mcdowell <smcdowell_2005 at yahoo.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Cindy,
> >>>
> >>> That is exciting. Have fun.
> >>>
> >>> Stephanie
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jun 20, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a Juno walk next Tuesday. I am really excited about it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Lou Ray
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> Cindyray at gmail.com
> >>>>
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