[NAGDU] I ALSO FLEW SOUTHWEST

Thu Sep 14 23:40:00 UTC 2023

I really like Southwest for that very reason. I too, printed the form out
and took it with me. The last couple of times I have flown though, they
haven't even asked me for it. I wouldn't count on that of course. I'd be
prepared. But I was pleasantly surprised. I guess my blindness is pretty
obvious.

Diane Graves
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Subject: [NAGDU] I ALSO FLEW SOUTHWEST

I went onto the DOT website and completed the form.  I think I had trouble
uploading it to connect to my reservation, but I printed a copy and took it
with me, and they just took a look and gave it right back to me, and I was
good to go.

Susan & Topher

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] My concerns regarding the DOT service animal forms

Hi Melissa, thanks for your note I am flying on Southwest airlines.
Also, Mike Evers I wanted to let you know that Nfb legal folks and our
national Association of nine dog users are working very closely on this
issue. I know that since the department of transportation first propose
these forms that we have been fighting hard against them.
 However it is my understanding that the DOT has refused to budge on this
issue.

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 11:50 AM Melissa Allman <MAllman at seeingeye.org>
wrote:

> Hi Elizabeth. Yes, this remains frustrating to put it mildly. Would 
> you be willing to share which airline you are dealing with, as they 
> all handle this differently unfortunately?
>
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> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Elizabeth Campbell 
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> Cc: Elizabeth Campbell <batescampbell at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] My concerns regarding the DOT service animal forms
>
> Good morning all,
> I am writing to let you know about a frustrating experience I'm having 
> with a task that should be simple, which is to complete the required U.S.
> Department of Transportation form for traveling with our service animals.
> I am taking a couple of flights on a different airline as I usually 
> fly American which allows us to complete a form once a year and simply 
> enter a service animal ID number when booking our travel.
> However, as has been said previously in town hall discussions and 
> other meetings, we don't have that option when flying other airlines.
> Today, I tried completing the form, but I kept getting a popup window, 
> even with the latest version of Adobe and the latest version of JAWS 
> for Windows which prevented me from finishing the task.
> I even called Aira  and talked to an agent who tried to help me via 
> the Microsoft Quick Assist app, but she ran into the same roadblocks.
>
> I believe we have accessibility issues on two fronts including 
> completing the DOT form using software that is preventing us from 
> completing tasks because of a popup that won't go away unless one 
> reboots
the computer.
> Then, we seem to have an issue with Adobe itself.
> It's my understanding that we should be able to complete the 
> accessible PDF without jumping through hoops.
> Now, I will need to email the form to one of my work colleagues who 
> has Adobe in hopes that he can help me finish the form.
>
> Thanks all for reading. I know that I am preaching to the choir so to 
> speak, but this convoluted and unjust requirement for us who have 
> already paid for our airline travel must stop. We should not be 
> penalized just because we choose to utilize our service animals to 
> further our independence.
> --
> Elizabeth Campbell
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