[NAGDU] pooping without a relieving harness

Tue Feb 13 03:39:09 UTC 2024

Not necessarily, especially if you have a dog that likes to poop in a few different places. My current guy doesn't do this but my retired  one does.
Leslie Hamric
Cello and Braille Music Teacher

> On Feb 12, 2024, at 9:33 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Why do you crawl on the ground to find your pup’s poop? If you follow his back down, when he’s done it is right there. Maybe that is a problem?
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray
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>> On Feb 12, 2024, at 9:04 PM, Al Sten-Clanton via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Joy.  Masha and I just need to accelerate our getting help from a local agency, especially since she's hoping to get into a Carroll Center program for people who want to get paid for testing accessibility.  In the meantime, I'll keep crawling around the ground to recover Sheldon's treasures the old-fashioned way.
>> 
>> 
>> Wag wag,
>> 
>> 
>> Al
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 2/12/24 19:46, Joy Relton via NAGDU wrote:
>>> Hi Al,
>>> 
>>> FaceTime may already be installed on your phones as part of the operating system, I can't remember. In any event, it is free. Then, you can use Siri to make a FaceTime call. She can call on any of your listed contacts. Check and see if any of the local Apple Stores have any classes to teach you how to use Siri and Voiceover. They are free. You can also install "Be my Eyes and the volunteer can look through the camera on your phone and help either of you.
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Al Sten-Clanton via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 2:00 PM
>>> To: Joy Relton via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Al Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton at verizon.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] relieving harness
>>> 
>>> Thanks!  Masha and I are still working on becoming at least passable user of our Iphone, so I may soon be able to follow your advice.  It's not urgent, but it may help if for some reason Masha has to take Sheldon out for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Al
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/12/24 16:42, Joy Relton via NAGDU wrote:
>>>> Hi Al,
>>>> 
>>>> Major just had problems with the whole commotion of going to park so we started with the toileting or relieving harness during training. If my memory serves me, he just put it on at first and wore it out to park. We didn't pressure him and he just did it. I would imagine that it is much easier to transition to it when the dog is younger. To the best of my memory, it, like most worthwhile things in life, take time and patience. You might call the training department back and maybe FaceTiming with an instructor on your iPhone because the instructor can see what is going on and may pick up something that is distracting for your dog, or whatever.
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, thanks for the bestt wishes for my health. I am feeling better. I actually got to sleep a few hours last night because I coughed less. I still have no voice but I have no temperature and a bit more energy. Garry is beginning to have some symptoms now as well. This is the twelfth day. Garry got the vaccine so he thinks he's smart.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope that you and Masha are well.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Al Sten-Clanton
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 4:09 PM
>>>> To: Joy Relton via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Al Sten-Clanton <albert.e.sten_clanton at verizon.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] relieving harness
>>>> 
>>>> Love that story about your husband.  The only time I remember doing something like that was saying pfui to one of the other dogs in the family when I first got Orin.  Poor Orin came over to me and I apologized and patted him.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have any advice on training the dog to make his deposit in the toileting harness bag?  I tried a few years ago with the phone help of a Seeing Eye instructor, but I didn't tet him to do the job.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Also, I hope you feel better quickly.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes and wags,
>>>> 
>>>> Al
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/11/24 13:46, Joy Relton via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tracy et al,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My previous dog just wasn’t into the whole circling and it was difficult to get him to hold still. The toileting or relief belt was a god send. I don’t have trouble bending yet but it sure made capture and disposing of the waste much easier. I do not use it with my current working dog, but it might be worth considering. The little devil gets all ready to do her business and then a bird flies by, or a sound happens and she’s distracted. We are working it out but I can recommend them. I would caution that not all dogs like them and you do have to work to transition to it with patience. Nothing is instantaneous in life.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That reminds me, when my husband and I were first dating we went tandem biking. So we were walking sighted guide and he forgot to warn me that a step was coming up which was hard to catch because of the angle of the corner. Without thinking I automatically said “pfui”. He looked at me and said “and I don’t go on command either.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately that gem is walking my dog exclusively for the past six days as I am bed ridden with a bad case of the flu. I will definitely take the vaccine this fall but it’s a little like shutting the door on the barn after the horse has escaped.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Catherine Clegg
>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 2:00 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Catherine Clegg <csgclose at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] relieving harness
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, this is really great.  The older you get, the harder it is to bend down.  My last instructor gave me this when she saw me bending down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Catherine
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 4:45 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
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>>>>> Cc: carcione at access.net <mailto:carcione at access.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] relieving harness
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's a belt that goes around the dog's waist, with clips on the back
>>>>> and the
>>>>> 
>>>>> belly.  You attach a bag to it, and the droppings fall into the bag.
>>>>> Great
>>>>> 
>>>>> for dogs who walk and poop, or do it without doing a dance, or for snow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also good if you have to relieve the dog in the big city, or an
>>>>> airport, or
>>>>> 
>>>>> anywhere else where a missed turd would upset people.  Or for people
>>>>> who
>>>>> 
>>>>> have trouble bending down and feeling around for the prize.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> <mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> > On Behalf Of Debbie Gabe via
>>>>> NAGDU
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>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 4:39 PM
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>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
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>>>>> Cc: Debbie Gabe <debbiegabe at live.com <mailto:debbiegabe at live.com> >
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] relieving harness
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I
>>>>> 
>>>>> M new at this guide dog business. What is a relieving harness?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> debbie
>>>>> 
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>>>>> <mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> > On Behalf Of Paula Jordan via
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>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 7:53 AM
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>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
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>>>>> Cc: Paula Jordan <paujor at roadrunner.com
>>>>> <mailto:paujor at roadrunner.com>
>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] relieving harness
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all.  I just got a relieving belt and would like some advice on
>>>>> how best
>>>>> 
>>>>> to put it on the dog.  He seems to accept it pretty well, so I think
>>>>> it's
>>>>> 
>>>>> worth working with.  I'm just not sure how best to fit it for maximum
>>>>> 
>>>>> benefit and his comfort.  You can write me off list at
>>>>> paujor at roadrunner.com <mailto:paujor at roadrunner.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> <mailto:paujor at roadrunner.com>  since this is something that might
>>>>> not be
>>>>> 
>>>>> pertinent to others on the list.   Thanks in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> God bless!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paula and the pups
>>>>> 
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