[NAGDU] Seeing Eye

Don Marr dpm51 at earthlink.net
Sat Mar 23 09:54:07 UTC 2024 

I sure remember zilla, wonderful, don

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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Danielle Ledet via NAGDU
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 3:51 AM
To: Sunshine via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Seeing Eye

Hi,

Is Carla from housekeeping still there?

On 3/19/2024 9:36 AM, Sunshine via NAGDU wrote:
> Yes, Buddy, that is correct. Paula Pursley was at the school for many years. Pauline Alexander worked with Judy and she promoted to Judy’s position when Judy retired.
>   Sunshine and Velvet
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>> On Mar 18, 2024, at 9:42 AM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Pauline Alexander was someone else. She retired just a few years ago, I wnt to say around 2012. She ws in admissions, but she wasn’t the Paula they’re talking about.
>>
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>>> On Mar 18, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Leslie Hamric via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think her name was Pauline Alexander.
>>> Leslie Hamric
>>> Cello and Braille Music Teacher
>>>
>>>>> On Mar 17, 2024, at 10:02 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I actually liked her. She did remind me of a housemother though.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 17, 2024, at 9:22 PM, Al Sten-Clanton via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember Paula.  I think she was the first person I spoke with at The Seeing Eye.  I thought of her as too formal or too old-fashioned or something in that vein, but I don't remember having any real conflict with her.  I forget exactly when she retired, but when I heard, I did a fairly rare thing for me:  I got her number from Directory Assistance and called to wish her well.  I just thought she deserved it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Whitstock retired in 1992, if memory served.  I wish I'd call him as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Vanessa Lowery 
>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 2:33 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>> Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Vanessa Lowery <val4dogs at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Seeing Eye
>>>>>
>>>>> I never met more Frank, but my best friend in North Carolina (my home state) did get to meet him. Did Krokus was there when I was in training with my first dog in 1982. So was Dan Booke pronounced Booker). I never worked with Roger Taylor in class. Nor did I do so with Gary Matoon. But I did get to know both of them. Gary was a hoot, and I must confess, I never was one of the victims of a Roger Taylor prank, but I'm sure that he could be quite ingenious about it. An and then there was absolutely sweet, gracious ROBERT Woodstock. What a gentleman. and David Loux. And for us dinosaurs, how many of you remember the person on the housekeeping staff, zilla husbands. She had the most wonderful laugh, so we would all do anything to get her to laugh. And then there was Paul Parsley, the school mom! You either loved her or hated her, but you grew to respect her.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Vanessa and the zoo
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Joy via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My first class was in 1976. I didn't meet Mr. Frank. I did meet Mr. Crocus and Mr. Debeta. Of course, I also got to know Mr. Gary Mattoon. Please forgive my spelling in the names. Mr. Mattoon trained my second dog Zenith but Lucas Franc trained Zenith and I together. Lucas used to call him Atoshi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr. Roger Taylor my first trainer with Vicki (my first Vicki) was a story teller. Since my dad was also a story teller I was right at home. He was also a practical joker. He once swopped the harness of a 1 hundred pound shepherd for a 40 pound shepherd during dinner. In those days, I can't remember if we still do this, we hung our dogs' harness on the back of our chair during dinner when we first started using them because they were stiff and hadn't yet gotten enough softening by the saddle soap. Anyway, the man who used the larger shepherd was a very tall man from Louisiana and he has the wonderful slow southern accent. The woman who had been matched with the smaller shepherd, and my roommate, was a smaller woman from Canada. When we got up to leave after dinner and began to put on our dogs' harnesses I can still hear Joe say "something sure is wrong here because there's no way this is gonna fit on my dog."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In those days everyone was called by their last names. It was to maintain an atmosphere of respect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once when I was walking down the street with Vicki a man came up to me and told me that he was with the police and  wondered if I had a license to operate my dog. I sputtered for a while and then asked "do you know Mr. Roger Taylor?". The man started laughing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are some things which have changed and become more modern at The Seeing Eye, but, to me, the one thing that remains the same is the emphasis on quality of breeding and training of dogs. In my experience, if you come with an attitude that you want to learn how to work with your new partner and ask lots of questions you end up with a partner who will work with you for years. There are going to be some partnerships which don't work, but I believe that it is the minority of the partnership. Of course, that isn't much comfort if you are the one experiencing the issue at the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, in 2005 I collapsed with a burst aneurism in my brain and was in intensive care for a month and then in rehab for another month before I came home. My husband called The Seeing Eye and got advice as to what to do to help Belle adjust to the new situation. The support was incredible.  I was not aware of anything for about a month but my husband had the support that he needed. Once I began to recover The Seeing Eye was there to support Belle and I as we began to work together again.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jessica Sears 
>>>>>> via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 6:54 AM
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>>>>>> Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Jessica Sears <jlsears86 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Seeing Eye
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am so fascinated by old Seeing Eye stories we are sharing. I would love to hear more from people on how things really have changed from early 80's to now. I wonder if anyone is here that met the real Morris?
>>>>>> Jess
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 12:49 AM Suzette May via NAGDU 
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I went to The Seeing Eye in September/October of 2022 for my 
>>>>>>> guide, a large, long, male Sable German Shepherd named Boden.  I 
>>>>>>> had Lukas Franck as my instructor and Joan Markey was our class manager.
>>>>>>> Anyone remember the high school route? Well, Lukas was quite 
>>>>>>> fond of that one and I think I did that beast about 3 or 4 
>>>>>>> times. They haven't had that as a route for years but we did it.  
>>>>>>> I think that thing was uphill both ways.  It sure felt like it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as retirements go,  I know Lukas retired at the end of September.
>>>>>>> Lee Johnson retired earlier in 2023, I think. I was sad to hear 
>>>>>>> Jeff McMullen retired. Joan Markey started at The Seeing Eye 
>>>>>>> within a few years of Lukas so that might happen in a year or two.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice to see all the different schools on here.  It's interesting 
>>>>>>> hearing everyones stories.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Suzette May*
>>>>>>> *PS139.13 at gmail.com <PS139.13 at gmail.com>*
>>>>>>> *512-564-0152*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:00 PM Julie A. Orozco via NAGDU < 
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for all the comments about Seeing Eye. It is great to 
>>>>>>>> know I
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> have an excellent class manager who will answer questions and 
>>>>>>>> listen to concerns. I'll tell a little more of my story below 
>>>>>>>> in case more reassurances are forth coming.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I retired my second dog in the fall of 2021 shortly before my 
>>>>>>>> daughter
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> born. I did not complete the application process for my third 
>>>>>>>> dog for a while after that because well, motherhood. So I 
>>>>>>>> haven't worked a dog in almost 2 and a half years, which is the 
>>>>>>>> longest I've gone without the harness in my hand since 2008. I 
>>>>>>>> only had to wait like 5 months between
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> first and second dogs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My life has changed completely in the last several years. I am 
>>>>>>>> a mom of a toddler now, and I feel like I need a unicorn of a 
>>>>>>>> dog. I live outside of Washington DC and take the metro a lot, 
>>>>>>>> walk a ton, and definitely deal with plenty of chaos and 
>>>>>>>> crowds. But I need a dog that will be gentle and forgiving of 
>>>>>>>> my toddler and tolerant of young children in general, since
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> looks like we'll be taking her to day care on a daily basis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am so nervous. Not only do I feel like I'm looking for a dog 
>>>>>>>> that might not exist, but I also fear a mismatch. I know 
>>>>>>>> everyone has them, but I haven't had one yet. My first two dogs 
>>>>>>>> were great matches, and my second dog in particular was an 
>>>>>>>> amazing worker and could pretty much read my mind.
>>>>>>> So,
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I can get that level of awesome in a dog again. 
>>>>>>>> The Seeing
>>>>>>> Eye
>>>>>>>> is a new school for me, and although I've seen great dogs come 
>>>>>>>> out of there, I'm still nervous. I will be spending three weeks 
>>>>>>>> away from my family to
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> this, and I want that time to count.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is truly nothing like working a dog though. Even with the 
>>>>>>>> rideshare denials and the airline forms, I have to do it. I 
>>>>>>>> have to try and do my best to make it work. I do plan on asking 
>>>>>>>> lots of questions when I'm there,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> I'm not shy. So hopefully that will help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm so glad there are so many happy Seeing Eye graduates on this list.
>>>>>>>> Hearing about your experiences is definitely helping. So thank 
>>>>>>>> you, and thanks for reading.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julie A. Orozco J.D.
>>>>>>>>
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