[NAGDU] Rideshare denials

Thu May 2 19:02:05 UTC 2024

Cindy, I understand where you are coming from. And yes, something might have come up. However, no thanks to all the denials I've had to deal with, I've grown a bit cynical. This is one of those reasons why I'm in huge favor of, if Uber adds the self-ID feature, and the process can be automated where an investigation takes place automatically if there is a ride cancellation after disclosing that I am a blind person with a guide dog, I will be very happy to do it.

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Rideshare denials

Sometimes though drivers cease to drive for other reasons, and the ride is cancelled shortly before they get there. Maybe a call or just deciding they couldn’t fulfill the queue. I don’t know that I would.

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> On May 2, 2024, at 1:14 PM, Vanessa Lowery via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Would I report it to Uber or LYFT even though it's not an actual in person denial, or would I just document it on the tracking platform that NAGDU has? It's kind of a gray area since you haven't been outright denied, but your wait time has now increased. That's where the rub is. To me, it's a denial. Others would counter that argument by stating that you gave the driver information, and based on that information, the driver opted not to show up.
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>> On May 2, 2024, at 1:33 PM, Raul Gallegos - NAGDU <rgallegos at nagdu.org> wrote:
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>> Hello Vanessa. While there is no direct evidence that you have been denied, I personally would still report it as such, especially if you have voluntarily sent the driver a text that identifies you as a blind person traveling with a guide dog.
>> I hope this helps.
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>> I have a question. To give an example, let's say that I have selected Uber and have messaged the driver stating that I will be traveling with a service dog and will be placing a towel on the floor of the vehicle before the dog enters. You continue to wait as the countdown for the drivers arrival continues. The driver gets two or three minutes out, and then the next thing you know, You've been switched to another ride. But before that happens, you've gotten a text response back from the driver that just says, "OK.". You assume that the OK means that the driver has no issues with the presence of the service dog. But then, you are suddenly switched to another driver. Is that considered a denial? And if not, at a minimum, should we go to the tracking link that the NFB has and report that. And if so, what is it categorized to be? I have had that happen a few times lately.
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>>>> On May 2, 2024, at 7:21 AM, Debbie Malone via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Hi all,
>>> Is NFB still collecting data regarding Uber andLyft service animal denials?
>>> If so where do we report the incidents? Thanks.
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