[NAGDU] Gentle leader

Sharon S shaz.080581 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 3 15:22:10 UTC 2024 

Hi, I also use both a gentle leader and a martingale collar so these are two different things. My martingale collar is part material and part chain. The lead attaches to the loop in the chain bit so when the lead is pulled the chain tightens. I was given this sort of collar to start with to try and control my first dogs pulling but it wasn't enough so we then added the gentle  leader and we have kept with this system with all four dogs.

>From Shaz.
Canberra, Australia.

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Gentle leader

I am curious, could you be talking about a martingale collar? I have a gentle leader, and it does nothing like what you explained.
Best regards
Scott Wilson
727-423-4312

> On Nov 2, 2024, at 4:23 PM, Debbie Gabe via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> My guide dog school gave it to us.
> you could call g<d<b and ask them.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 2, 2024, at 5:10 AM, Gretchen Brown via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Thank you. I guess I must not have the same gl as you. Mine has the 
> strap that goes behind the ears, then  the nose loop which then ends 
> in an o ring beneath the chin. There isn't a nother strap or anything 
> aside from the o ring under the chin.  I wonder if there is a way to 
> add another strap. YOU explained it very well I just don't think I 
> have a gentle leader like the one you describe. Thank you for explaining.
> 
> 
> Gretchen Brown certified occupational therapy assistant
> cell: 812-642-9121
> Email: Gretch99Brown at gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 10:59 PM Debbie Gabe via NAGDU 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gretchen,
> I'm confused by what you said. So I'll start from the beginning.
> The gentle leader (gl) has 4 parts:
> 1. the part that goes around the neck immediately behind the ears.
> 2. the loop that goes around the snout to hold the high collar in place.
> 3. the little straight strap ending in the O ring. This hangs down 
> under dog's chin..
> 4. the other little straight strap ending with the little latch (don't 
> know what it's called. Initially this also hangs down under dog's chin.
> 
> BTW, the movable Oring of the collar does not have to stay on top of 
> dog's neck between the shoulder blades. In fact, with my dog, if I'm 
> not using the GL, her collar moves all around  depending.
> So I just move the collar O ring under the chin to make things easier 
> to attach.
> 
> To put it on the dog,
> 1. First put on the snout piece.
> 2. put on the high collar piece around dog's neck, just behind dog's ears.
> 3. Remove the leash from the O ring on the regular collar. The regular 
> collar's O ring is under dog's chin.
> 
> 4. Attach the leash to the O ring at the end of the little straight 
> strap of the GL.
> 5. Attach the little latch at the end of the other little straight 
> strap of the GL to the regular collar movable O ring, which is under dog's chin.
> 
> Just make sure that the snout piece fits correctly, snug but not too 
> tight. The only problem with the GL I've had is when the snout piece 
> is too loose and it comes off  her snout and just hangs down. But then 
> the leash seems a little longer so I can feel that.
> This way, when you tug even very little, the collar pushes behind the 
> dog's ears and the dogs respond quickly.  And it doesn't bother  the snout.
> 
> It's much easier to show in person. Writing about it is hard to do.
> I hope you're not thoroughly confused. I have to read what I myself 
> wrote at least 3 times going word by word. Ugh!
> Hope this helps.
> debbie
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> Cc: Gretchen Brown <gretch99brown at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Gentle leader
> 
> I guess I'm confused. So you say to attach the gentle leader to the  leash.
> But how do you connect the gl to the movable ring on the collar? 
> Because the o ring of the gentle leader is under the chin, how can you 
> still have the collar in proper position if the collar movable ring is 
> behind the dog's ears. Is there another strap you use? There is no way 
> I could get the o ring under the chin and attach that to the leash 
> along with the o ring on the collar and keep the o ring of the collar 
> between her shoulders because the strap that comes from the chin 
> doesn't extend far enough Unless perhaps you are using one leash clip 
> for the gl and the other for the collar that way the leash is still short?
> Gretchen
> 
> Gretchen Brown certified occupational therapy assistant
> cell: 812-642-9121
> Email: Gretch99Brown at gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 6:12 PM Debbie Gabe via NAGDU 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I was taught by my trainer at GDB to attach the leach clip to the 
> plain ring on the gentle leader. Then the clip of the gentle leader is 
> attached to the moveable ring on the collar. That way, when you tug on 
> the leash, the gentle leader pulls on the back of the dog's ears, not 
> on the dog's snout. I use the gentle leader most of the time with my 
> dog. She listens to the very smallest tugs on the leach, which I use 
> with my right arm, since I have a pinched nerve causing pain down my 
> left arm.
> Good luck
> debbie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of paula jordan via 
> NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2024 5:28 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Gentle leader
> 
> Hi Gretchen and others.  I use a gentle leader when working my dog.  I 
> attach the ring of the gentle leader and the ring on his collar to the 
> same
> clip on the leash.   Hope this helps.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
> 
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> Cc: Gretchen Brown <gretch99brown at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Gentle leader
> 
> I was recently informed there is a strap that connects the gentle 
> leader ring to the collar. Sometimes my leash will get caught in the 
> ring and if I am not careful, the gentle leader will become detached 
> from the leash. Was wondering if any of you have had this happen or if 
> you have any troubleshooting ideas? I've tried attaching one end of 
> the leash to the collar and one to the gentle leader, but it is hard 
> to feel what her head is doow. She has never gotten away from me, but 
> I always worry about it becoming detached.
> Thank you for any ideas you all can provide. If you have experience 
> with the strap I think they call it a safety strap, please let me know.
> 
> 
> Gretchen Brown certified occupational therapy assistant
> cell: 812-642-9121
> Email: Gretch99Brown at gmail.com
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