<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="display: block;" class="">Below is a link to some information that describes a Martingale collar which you may or may not have.<br><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;" class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://www.brindleandwhyte.com/what-is-a-martingale-collar/"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;display:block;-webkit-user-select:none;width:300px;user-select:none;-webkit-user-modify:read-only;user-modify:read-only;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none;" class="lp-rich-link" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.brindleandwhyte.com/what-is-a-martingale-collar/" dir="ltr" role="button" draggable="false" width="300"><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:300px;background-color:#6E798B;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="lp-rich-link-emailBaseTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300"><tbody><tr><td vertical-align="center" align="center"><img style="width:300px;filter:brightness(0.97);height:210px;" width="300" height="210" draggable="false" class="lp-rich-link-mediaImage" alt="DSC00692_CROP_NOTHS.jpg" src="cid:490EF7A2-2591-4662-8B5B-74C40042D305"></td></tr><tr><td vertical-align="center"><table bgcolor="#6E798B" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="table-layout:fixed;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgba(110, 121, 139, 1);-apple-color-filter:initial;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:8px 0px 8px 0px;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStackItem"><div style="max-width:100%;margin:0px 16px 0px 16px;overflow:hidden;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:500;font-size:12px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-topCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.brindleandwhyte.com/what-is-a-martingale-collar/" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#FFFFFF" style="color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 1);">What Is a Martingale Collar? Read to find out</font></a></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:400;font-size:11px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-bottomCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.brindleandwhyte.com/what-is-a-martingale-collar/" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#FFFFFF" style="color: rgba(235, 235, 245, 0.6);">brindleandwhyte.com</font></a></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Best regards<div>Scott Wilson</div><div>727-423-4312</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 2, 2024, at 8:55 PM, s.wilson661@icloud.com wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>I am curious, could you be talking about a martingale collar? I have a gentle leader, and it does nothing like what you explained.</span><br><span>Best regards</span><br><span>Scott Wilson</span><br><span>727-423-4312</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Nov 2, 2024, at 4:23 PM, Debbie Gabe via NAGDU <nagdu@nfbnet.org> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My guide dog school gave it to us.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>you could call g<d<b and ask them.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPhone</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Nov 2, 2024, at 5:10 AM, Gretchen Brown via NAGDU <nagdu@nfbnet.org> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you. I guess I must not have the same gl as you. Mine has the strap</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that goes behind the ears, then  the nose loop which then ends in an o ring</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>beneath the chin. There isn't a nother strap or anything aside from the o</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ring under the chin.  I wonder if there is a way to add another strap. YOU</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>explained it very well I just don't think I have a gentle leader like the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>one you describe. Thank you for explaining.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gretchen Brown certified occupational therapy assistant</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cell: 812-642-9121</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Email: Gretch99Brown@gmail.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 10:59 PM Debbie Gabe via NAGDU <nagdu@nfbnet.org></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Gretchen,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm confused by what you said. So I'll start from the beginning.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The gentle leader (gl) has 4 parts:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. the part that goes around the neck immediately behind the ears.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. the loop that goes around the snout to hold the high collar in place.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. the little straight strap ending in the O ring. This hangs down under</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>dog's chin..</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. the other little straight strap ending with the little latch (don't</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>know what it's called. Initially this also hangs down under dog's chin.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>BTW, the movable Oring of the collar does not have to stay on top of dog's</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>neck between the shoulder blades. In fact, with my dog, if I'm not using</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the GL, her collar moves all around  depending.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So I just move the collar O ring under the chin to make things easier to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>attach.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To put it on the dog,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. First put on the snout piece.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. put on the high collar piece around dog's neck, just behind dog's ears.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. Remove the leash from the O ring on the regular collar. The regular</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>collar's O ring is under dog's chin.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. Attach the leash to the O ring at the end of the little straight strap</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the GL.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>5. Attach the little latch at the end of the other little straight strap</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of the GL to the regular collar movable O ring, which is under dog's chin.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Just make sure that the snout piece fits correctly, snug but not too</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>tight. The only problem with the GL I've had is when the snout piece is too</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>loose and it comes off  her snout and just hangs down. But then the leash</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>seems a little longer so I can feel that.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This way, when you tug even very little, the collar pushes behind the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>dog's ears and the dogs respond quickly.  And it doesn't bother  the snout.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It's much easier to show in person. Writing about it is hard to do.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I hope you're not thoroughly confused. I have to read what I myself wrote</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>at least 3 times going word by word. Ugh!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hope this helps.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>debbie</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gretchen Brown via</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, November 1, 2024 3:59 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>nagdu@nfbnet.org></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: Gretchen Brown <gretch99brown@gmail.com></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Gentle leader</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I guess I'm confused. So you say to attach the gentle leader to the  leash.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But how do you connect the gl to the movable ring on the collar? Because</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the o ring of the gentle leader is under the chin, how can you still have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the collar in proper position if the collar movable ring is behind the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>dog's ears. Is there another strap you use? There is no way I could get the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>o ring under the chin and attach that to the leash along with the o ring on</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the collar and keep the o ring of the collar between her shoulders because</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the strap that comes from the chin doesn't extend far enough Unless perhaps</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>you are using one leash clip for the gl and the other for the collar that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>way the leash is still short?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gretchen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gretchen Brown certified occupational therapy assistant</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cell: 812-642-9121</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Email: Gretch99Brown@gmail.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 6:12 PM Debbie Gabe via NAGDU <nagdu@nfbnet.org></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi, I was taught by my trainer at GDB to attach the leach clip to the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>plain ring on the gentle leader. Then the clip of the gentle leader is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>attached to the moveable ring on the collar. That way, when you tug on</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the leash, the gentle leader pulls on the back of the dog's ears, not</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>on the dog's snout. I use the gentle leader most of the time with my</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>dog. She listens to the very smallest tugs on the leach, which I use</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with my right arm, since I have a pinched nerve causing pain down my</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>left arm.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Good luck</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>debbie</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of paula jordan via</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2024 5:28 AM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>< nagdu@nfbnet.org></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: paujor@roadrunner.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Gentle leader</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Gretchen and others.  I use a gentle leader when working my dog.  I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>attach the ring of the gentle leader and the ring on his collar to the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>same</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>clip on the leash.   Hope this helps.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>God bless!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Paula and the pups</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces@nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gretchen Brown via</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2024 9:36 PM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: NAGDU@nfbnet.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cc: Gretchen Brown <gretch99brown@gmail.com></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [NAGDU] Gentle leader</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I was recently informed there is a strap that connects the gentle</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>leader ring to the collar. Sometimes my leash will get caught in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ring and if I am not careful, the gentle leader will become detached</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>from the leash. Was wondering if any of you have had this happen or if</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>you have any troubleshooting ideas? I've tried attaching one end of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the leash to the collar and one to the gentle leader, but it is hard</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to feel what her head is doow. She has never gotten away from me, but</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I always worry about it becoming detached.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you for any ideas you all can provide. If you have experience</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with the strap I think they call it a safety strap, please let me know.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Gretchen Brown certified occupational therapy assistant</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cell: 812-642-9121</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Email: Gretch99Brown@gmail.com</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU@nfbnet.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>http://nfbnet/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnagdu_nfbnet.org&data=05%7C02%7C%7C683beca</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ec7c342aafb9608dcfae2242b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>C638661096380357574%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=s6CYiH8CUw</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cf9FzB3aP41e7oqDk32sb%2BxcelZCKQLQg%3D&reserved=0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>http://nfbnet/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>.org%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Fnagdu_nfbnet.org%2Fpaujor%2540roadrunner.co</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>m&data=05%7C02%7C%7C683becaec7c342aafb9608dcfae2242b%7C84df9e7fe9f640a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>fb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638661096380378838%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=e63qWOu6cCwqDQz6FOG9uGnhFJH195MyxDGZ36H%2FRYQ%3D&rese</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>rved=0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU@nfbnet.org</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>http://nfbnet/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fnagdu_nfbnet.org&data=05%7C02%7C%7C683beca</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ec7c342aafb9608dcfae2242b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>C638661096380392701%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIj</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>oiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=PlsKspZ97l</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>eUd6Foghwu%2BdoHUUU4%2Bh2AigC5MCFdGBA%3D&reserved=0</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NAGDU:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>http://nfbnet/</span><br></blockquote><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