[Ncabs] more krispy kreme

[Jewel S.]

Cindy,
Good point...if Preston gets the go-ahead for the table at Wake Tech,
I'll definitely be in on that, and maybe we could do it at NC State,
too. Any update on that, Preston?

If I remember right, we pay $3.50 per ticket, and sell them for $6, so
we have a profit of $2.50 per ticket. 10 vouchers sold would give
NCABS a profit of $25. It's a good deal, and I hope we can do the
table at colleges. It'll be good advertisement for NCABS, also, since
I know there are blidn students who don't know about NCABS or aren't
sure about it.

On 10/7/10, Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jewel, i think you bring up some good points. However, i know that we
> will do other fund raisers. I know Preston is already working on
> organizing a day to sell doughnuts at Wake Tech. Maybe you could help
> him with this. I think that not everyone has to be willing to put out
> money for this to be successful. We need help in many different ways,
> and we are appreciative that you are so willing to help. We would
> definitely not want to cause anyone to compromise their basic needs,
> so just know that if a fund raiser or activity comes up and you aren't
> able to participate fully, we appreciate your willingness and know
> that you will definitely step up when another opportunity arises.
>
> I am involved in several organizations, and I have to do this all the
> time. None of us can do everything, so I understand.
>
> Out of curiosity, how much do we pay Krispy Kreme for the tickets?
>
> Cindy
>
> On 10/7/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Justin and others,
>> Even at $6, it is a high price for someone who is on a fixed income
>> and trying to save for a vacation/convention for nxt year with the
>> little bit that is left over after bills and groceries. $6 can pay for
>> two meals' worth of groceries. $12 (two vouchers) would almost pay for
>> a month's pass for the bus system.
>>
>> The only way I could see myself being able to do the pre-paid vouchers
>> is if someone bought them, then lent them to me and/or Mike, we sell
>> them, and we return the money to the person who lent them, similar to
>> what you were saying, Justin. Preston, would you consider doing such?
>> Or Dasha, maybe Amama (Lusi) would consider sponsoring me by
>> purchasing a few vouchers for me at a time? Once two vouchers are
>> purchased for me, I could sell them, then buy two more with that
>> money, and continue like that. The group would continue to get profit,
>> and I would work on just the $12 or so that is lent to me for the
>> purpose.
>>
>> I just can't see myself being able to purchase vouchers and continue
>> to not have that money for other things. It's a matter of being on a
>> very low income. According to government designations, I am below the
>> poverty line, and I am struggling quite a bit. I know you guys
>> understand struggling from your own experiences, but these are tough
>> times for me and Mike, especially since Food Stamps has denied us more
>> than $15 per month each...$15 is not going to get nothing these days
>> as far as food...so we're paying grocery bills out of pocket,
>> $300/month. After bills and groceries, we have just enough to set
>> aside for next year's trip and buy Mike's monthly pass and have some
>> money for me to buy day passes if I want to get out of the house. I'm
>> not trying to rant; I'm just trying to impress no you guys that some
>> people simply don't have the money to buy these things. In high
>> school, it was the same way for me. I grew up in a family that was
>> just above the poverty line and we would have struggled much more if
>> we didn't live on a family farm, where we grew much of our vegetables
>> and raised chickens and goats for food, so grocery bills were low. But
>> when it came to the candy bar fundraisers, I was unable to participate
>> because my parents couldn't spare the $20 for the box. Fundraisers
>> like that leave out the people who live with very little money, who
>> would be willing and able to sell if they could just sell them first
>> and send the money after.
>>
>> Just my thoughts,
>> Jewel
>>
>> On 10/7/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu> wrote:
>>> We're selling them for $6 each, not $10 each. A regular dozen at Krispy
>>> Kreme is about $7.50, which is why there is an incentive for people to
>>> buy
>>> our vouchers.
>>>
>>> I see your concern, Jewel, but what happens when we buy a bunch of
>>> vouchers,
>>> give them to a member, and never hear from that member again?  If we
>>> adopt
>>> that policy, it's guaranteed to happen at least once.  I'm not saying
>>> that
>>> because I don't trust particular people in our group; it's just how
>>> people
>>> are.  If you buy a few vouchers and sell them quickly, you'll get your
>>> money
>>> back quickly, too.  Perhaps you and Preston can work something out so
>>> that
>>> you only are only trying to sell 2 vouchers at a time or something
>>> because
>>> you two go to the same school and will not have to mail these babies back
>>> and forth.  Someone like Cindy or me cannot just meet up with Preston
>>> like
>>> that, but maybe we can work that out for you.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>>> Undergraduate Student
>>> The University Honors Program
>>> East Carolina University
>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>>>
>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
>>> without accepting it."    -Aristotle
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>>> Jewel
>>> S. [herekittykat2 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:33 AM
>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>>
>>> If you do it by requiring the member to buy the vouchers up front to
>>> sell them, then I am sorry, but I won't be able to buy mroe than one
>>> or two at the most at a time, if I can afford to buy any up front at
>>> all. Every dollar I get these days go into bills, groceries, or the
>>> Disney/convention fund, and I can't afford anything else. Mike and I
>>> are struggling as it is.
>>>
>>> Buying 10 vouchers for $70 is a total imposibility for me, even though
>>> I know I stand a very good chance of selling them, or Mike selling
>>> them, just by talking to people while he is going back and forth to
>>> school or I am running errands. But to purchase them myself ahead of
>>> time? There is no way I could do that.
>>>
>>> Yes, thank you, Cindy, that makes perfect sense to me now. I think I
>>> was having a 'well duh' minute.
>>>
>>> On 10/7/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu> wrote:
>>>> Right, thank you.  It's just cleaner the way I propose we try it.  I
>>>> mean,
>>>> if we give those vouchers to a member without having the member pay up
>>>> front, we have to go through the tricky process of waiting until the
>>>> tickets
>>>> sell to balance our checkbook.  If there's no financial incentive to the
>>>> member to sell the tickets, they won't be as motivated to sell them.
>>>> This
>>>> is just human nature and applies to everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>>>> Undergraduate Student
>>>> The University Honors Program
>>>> East Carolina University
>>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>>>>
>>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
>>>> without accepting it."    -Aristotle
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>>>> Cala
>>>> Estes [cala.estes at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:21 PM
>>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>>>
>>>> I think that's a good idea Justin. I don't know how well other people
>>>> are going to like the idea of sending off money, but I think if you
>>>> stress that they should only buy as much as they feel they can sell,
>>>> it might put them more at ease.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/6/10, Salisbury, Justin Mark <SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Please note- I made that proposal provided that the tickets work at all
>>>>> Krispy Kreme locations.  Not too many people in Charlotte are going to
>>>>> want
>>>>> to buy tickets that only work at a Raleigh Krispy Kreme.
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>>>>> Undergraduate Student
>>>>> The University Honors Program
>>>>> East Carolina University
>>>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>>>>>
>>>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
>>>>> without accepting it."    -Aristotle
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>>>>> Salisbury, Justin Mark [SALISBURYJ08 at students.ecu.edu]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:56 PM
>>>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly agree with Cindy's interpretation of the options.  My
>>>>> personal
>>>>> belief is that we're best off buying a set number of tickets up front
>>>>> and
>>>>> distributing them to members to sell.  I don't think many people are
>>>>> going
>>>>> to buy tickets from someone they don't know well if they can't get the
>>>>> tickets from the seller on the spot.  In other words, I think that I
>>>>> would
>>>>> only be able to sell tickets to people who know me well because others
>>>>> would
>>>>> not trust that they would ever see me again for me to give them the
>>>>> tickets.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that having a station set up with actual doughnuts may be fun,
>>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>> think it would be what's called a "skinny rabbit."  We shouldn't hunt
>>>>> skinny
>>>>> rabbits because there's not a lot of meat on their bones.  Plus, I
>>>>> would
>>>>> hate for us to buy more doughnuts than we can sell that day.  I'm sure
>>>>> the
>>>>> vouchers will last longer than the doughnuts themselves, you know?  I
>>>>> think
>>>>> buying vouchers with NCABS money and mailing them to members to sell is
>>>>> the
>>>>> key.  We have to then make sure that our members actually sell them so
>>>>> that
>>>>> we can get the money back.  When I was a sighted kid selling candy bars
>>>>> for
>>>>> little league, the players all had to pay the full amount of money that
>>>>> they
>>>>> expected to receive from selling the candy bars when receiving the case
>>>>> of
>>>>> candy bars.  It gave us the incentive to actively sell the candy bars
>>>>> because it was the only way for us to get our money back.  I don't
>>>>> think
>>>>> any
>>>>> NCABS member would have a hard time selling 20 or 25 vouchers.  Would
>>>>> you
>>>>> all agree with running our fundraiser similarly to the little league
>>>>> ones
>>>>> I
>>>>> described?
>>>>>
>>>>> If we let members commit to selling a certain number of tickets, they
>>>>> will
>>>>> send us the money, we will send them the tickets, and they will sell
>>>>> the
>>>>> tickets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody else have ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin M. Salisbury
>>>>> Undergraduate Student
>>>>> The University Honors Program
>>>>> East Carolina University
>>>>> salisburyj08 at students.ecu.edu
>>>>>
>>>>> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
>>>>> without accepting it."    -Aristotle
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org [ncabs-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>> Bennett [clb5590 at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:33 PM
>>>>> To: North Carolina Association of Blind Students List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what Preston is saying is that we can sell the tickets 2 ways.
>>>>> We can either purchase the tickets from Krispy Kreme and sell them, or
>>>>> we can take orders from people who are interested in buying a ticket,
>>>>> and then take that list of people to Krispy Kreme and buy a ticket for
>>>>> every person who has given us money. The advantage to purchasing the
>>>>> tickets beforehand is that once we interact with buyers, we don't have
>>>>> to arrange to see them again, but we also run the risk of purchasing
>>>>> too many tickets which would then be a cost to NCABS. The advantage to
>>>>> taking orders from people who want to buy a ticket is that NCABS won't
>>>>> buy too many tickets, but the disadvantage is that we have to talk to
>>>>> people multiple times, we have to take their order and collect their
>>>>> money, and meet up with them again to give them their actual ticket.
>>>>>
>>>>> The third option would be for NCABS to purchase actual doughnuts and
>>>>> sell
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally believe that we should set up a station and run it for a
>>>>> few mornings. Perhaps a place on NC State's campus would be good, but
>>>>> i understand sometimes campus's have rules about noncampus orgs
>>>>> selling stuff, so maybe we could find a place right off campus, or we
>>>>> could set up a station where cars would be driving out of an apartment
>>>>> complex in the morning, or where people would be getting on the bus. I
>>>>> think we should also buy tickets and give each member some that they
>>>>> must sell. That way, once they make the sale, we have the money, and
>>>>> there isn't need to meet up again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Preston, you might have answered these questions, and I'm sorry if you
>>>>> have, but is there an expiration date on the tickets? Also, can these
>>>>> tickets be redemed at any Krispy Kreme? If so, that would be awesome,
>>>>> because otherwise, members outside of Raleigh can't really help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and Jewel, i hope that clears up some of your confusion. If
>>>>> not, please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/5/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Maybe I'm just being a dunce, but that made absolutely no sense to
>>>>>> me...how are the three ways different? We buy tickets and sell them,
>>>>>> but you want to do another way to start...I don't understand what that
>>>>>> other way is. I think I'm just being a total dunce, so please be
>>>>>> patient with me!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/5/10, psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu <psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can sell any of three ways. We can sell tickets for a free dozen
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> original glazed doughnuts, or we can presell with money up front, or
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> presell without money. I have order forms but if we sell tickets we
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> pay out of pocket to Krispy Kreme first. If we chooses the presell
>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> can collect at least some of the money first to minamize the risk out
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> treasury. If we sell pver a hindred dozens our price goes down to
>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>> dollars a dozen, and we make three dollars a dozen proffit.
>>>>>>> Preston S Johnson
>>>>>>> psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:09:20 -0400
>>>>>>>> From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> To: ncabs at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ncabs] more krispy kreme
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do individuals pre-order dozens? Do you pay for them before you sell
>>>>>>>> them, or how is it done? Where do we get the tickets to sell? I'm a
>>>>>>>> bit confused about how to get started with this. I would like to
>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>> selling the vouchers for ddozen donuts, though. I think this is a
>>>>>>>> wonderful fundraiser and am ready to get started on it, but am just
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> bit confused about how to get started. Can y ou explain, please,
>>>>>>>> Preston?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/3/10, psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu <psjohnson2 at my.waketech.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I have included order forms for krispy kreme fundraisers, as
>>>>>>>> > attachments.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>> clb5590 at gmail.com
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