[Ncabs] Google Accessibility

[Sean Mealin]

Just my experience: Google Scholar links to my paper, however, they
never contacted me for permission or any other requests.  So Cala is
correct, they do not contact the authors.

Sean

On 4/6/13, Cala Estes <cala.estes at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> As a frequent user of Google scholar, I thought i'd add my input.
> First of all, google can't just stop linking to certain PDF's because
> they're inaccessible. I hope you're not suggesting that they stop
> linking to valuable content for everyone just because it's
> inaccessible! I don't know that google has any contact with or access
> to the authors they link to, but I doubt they do. So putting pressure
> on Google doesn't sound like it would do much good. In my experience,
> Google links to the same PDF's which you can find on your university's
> academic database, such as ebsco or JSTOR. All these academic search
> providers are just linking to content, not controlling it. In
> addition, maybe others have had different experiences, but I rarely
> come across a PDF wich hasn't had OCR done on it. I can read them with
> jaws 99 percent of the time, and I save them to a plain text format so
> I can work more freely with them. I haven't come across an
> inaccessible PDF in years.
>
> Therefore, I'm not sure what the NFB wants Google to do here. They
> pull from the same pool of content as university databases, and
> neither entity has control of the author. Clarification would be
> appreciated.
>
> Cala
>
> On 4/6/13, Sean Mealin <spmealin at ncsu.edu> wrote:
>> Sorry, can you please clarify what you mean by “the colleges can put
>> pressure on google to act in better faith of compliance?”
>>
>> Google has absolutely no control over content, therefore pressuring
>> Google Scholar would be wasted effort.
>>
>>
>> On 4/6/13, Alan A. Chase <aachase1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, Jewel, Google Scholar is what links you to articles from a search.
>>>
>>> The important thing here to note that is while Google doesn't control
>>> the
>>> accessibility of these documents it can control which documents it links
>>> to.  Higher education institutions are required to provide materials in
>>> accessible formats and if an institution, such as Wake Tech, chooses to
>>> use
>>> Google the college has an obligation to ensure the accessibility.  Thus,
>>> the colleges can put pressure on google to act in better faith of
>>> compliance.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is Google Scholar the source of the scholarly journal articles that
>>>> come up in search results? I just want to check before making that
>>>> assumption! Almost all of those journal articles are inaccessible PDFs
>>>> from my experience, so if this is what is meant by Google Scholar, you
>>>> can count me in to call about it.
>>>> Later,
>>>> Jewel
>>>>
>>>> On 4/4/13, Alan A. Chase <aachase1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > The NFB wants to see what can be done to address the problem of the
>>>> > inaccessibility of Google Apps in the workplace and on campus.  To
>>>> > that
>>>> > end,
>>>> > the NFB would like to hear from employees or students - by telephone
>>>> only -
>>>> > who have experienced inaccessibility with any of Google's
>>>> > applications,
>>>> > including but not limited to the following:
>>>> >
>>>> > Google Docs
>>>> > Gmail
>>>> > Google Calendar
>>>> > Google Slides
>>>> > Google Plus
>>>> > Google Chat
>>>> > Google Scholar
>>>> >
>>>> > If you have encountered such difficulties and would like to help us,
>>>> > DO
>>>> NOT
>>>> > RESPOND BY EMAIL, but instead please call Valerie Yingling at
>>>> > 410-659-9314 x2440.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > *Alan A. Chase, M.Ed.*
>>>> > Occupational Course of Study Teacher, New Hanover County Schools
>>>> > Program Coordinator, Envisioning Youth Empowerment Retreat
>>>> > President, North Carolina Association of Blind Students
>>>> > Secretary, Governor Morehead School Alumni Association
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