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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Good Morning Jolene and Everyone, I have rethought my original statements about not giving a person the patterns if they don\u2019t attend the classes. As you have pointed out Jolene, sometimes people can\u2019t attend a class because of some conflicts, and, let\u2019s face it, \u201cLife does happen.\u201d<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> NFB-Blind-Crafters <nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jolene Nemeth via NFB-Blind-Crafters<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 4, 2026 5:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> List for Blind Crafters and Artists <nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Jolene Nemeth <radar500@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-Blind-Crafters] Ideas<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>ii too agree that if there arent any attendees then the class should not be taught. i also agree about the legalities in that everyone should be told that the class is being recorded and if you dont want to be recorded then you can choose to remain silent. participation in the class indicates your consent to be recorded if you choose to speak.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>as far as patterns go, if you dont attend the class but want to and then download the recording i think you should be given the patterns if you request them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>there are lots of reason why folks have conflicts in attending classes. the recordings make it so you dont have to offer repeat classes and puts less burden on instructors in the long run.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>i think it would be great to try this concept.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 1:55<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>\u202f</span>AM slery via NFB-Blind-Crafters <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org">nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Any time you record you must announce that it is being recorded and that if you choose speak on the recording you are giving consent to be recorded. This is a legal requirement and nothing to do with the information being sensitive. This was legally in flux and why NFB Krafters Division did not record classes.<br>Cindy<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 5/3/2026 1:56 PM, Marianne Denning via NFB-Blind-Crafters wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I agree with Courtney that there should not be a class if no one shows up. Since we are not talking about sensitive subjects, I don\u2019t think you need peoples permission to record the class. I do think you need to let everyone know who is online that it is being recorded. Zoom also announces that the recording has been started. That way everyone does know that they are being recorded. That is just my opinion for what it\u2019s worth.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On May 2, 2026, at 1:58<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>\u202f</span>PM, Tracy Carcione via NFB-Blind-Crafters <a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>\ufeff</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I can record Zoom classes, if everyone present in class agrees. I\u2019m not editing anything. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If I record something, will anyone even bother to come, or will the teacher be talking to herself? That\u2019s what worries me.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Tracy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> NFB-Blind-Crafters <a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Kindrick via NFB-Blind-Crafters<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 2, 2026 12:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List for Blind Crafters and Artists' <a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org></a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:mkindrick@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">mkindrick@sbcglobal.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-Blind-Crafters] Ideas</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I would very much be interested in audio reccordings of some classes. It is not always possible to attend some of the classes I am interested in. And, even when I attend a class, I cannot remember everything. Maybe, I am just getting Old? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mary K.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> NFB-Blind-Crafters <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jolene Nemeth via NFB-Blind-Crafters<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 2, 2026 1:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> List for Blind Crafters and Artists <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Jolene Nemeth <<a href="mailto:radar500@gmail.com" target="_blank">radar500@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-Blind-Crafters] Ideas</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>hi there. hope all is well with you. i was thinking that a lot of the classes are too late in the day for me and maybe someothers to attend. could we possibly allow audio recordings of classes so others who cant make the time slots could learn? someone could put their phone on speaker and test this out using an audio recorder. victor stream 3 created good audio recordings this way for something i did recently. it would then probably need to be uploaded to drop box.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>i know many people dont like drop box but there is a way to change the end of every drop box link so it automatically downloads to the computer downloads folder when someone activates it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>just a thought<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 7:51<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>\u202f</span>PM Tracy Carcione via NFB-Blind-Crafters <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204)'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>We\u2019ve started a couple new things with the new chats and the knit-along, and a couple ideas for classes, but what else can we do to make things interesting and exciting? Are there ideas for letting more people know what we do? Are there ideas for more things we can do?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>All ideas welcome for consideration.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Tracy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>_______________________________________________<br>NFB-Blind-Crafters mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NFB-Blind-Crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">NFB-Blind-Crafters@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFB-Blind-Crafters:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org/radar500%40gmail.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org/radar500%40gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NFB-Blind-Crafters mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NFB-Blind-Crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">NFB-Blind-Crafters@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFB-Blind-Crafters:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org/marianne%40denningweb.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org/marianne%40denningweb.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NFB-Blind-Crafters mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:NFB-Blind-Crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">NFB-Blind-Crafters@nfbnet.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFB-Blind-Crafters:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org/slerythema%40gmail.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org/slerythema%40gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NFB-Blind-Crafters mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NFB-Blind-Crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">NFB-Blind-Crafters@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFB-Blind-Crafters:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org/radar500%40gmail.com" target="_blank">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-blind-crafters_nfbnet.org/radar500%40gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>