<html class="apple-mail-supports-explicit-dark-mode"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"> no classes choice There has not been dues for several years, now. I was disappointed<div> I was disappointed when they stopped having sign ups for classes at least then the teacher knew how many student was gonna have. He could then contact your student basically with any information that they might need prior to the class and they have some kind of idea how many students was coming. I think that signed up for class is really not a big hardship but right now there\u2019s nothing there\u2019s nothing going on in the path teachers had spoken to student and made arrangement for those that couldn\u2019t attend the class. I believe that that be done and a conversation between a student and a teacher could so Pablo\u2019s problem Joyce. it has been a shame that there hasn\u2019t been very many classes. Classes were a sharing of knowledge, friendship and craft. I believe that the teacher goes through lots of prepare for class and I don\u2019t believe that pattern or recording should be made. I do agree that in the path teachers had spoken to student and made arrangement for those that couldn\u2019t attend the class. I believe that that be done and a conversation between a student and a teacher could so Pablo\u2019s problem Joyce. <br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On May 5, 2026, at 4:58\u202fAM, Jolene Nemeth via NFB-Blind-Crafters <nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">\ufeff<div dir="ltr">renee brings up some good points and so does mary ann. as for free kits, that would require that the group has funds to purchase and ship them and since we dont collect dues anymore, i dont th ink we would have funds for that. this would then require donations and possibly fund raising.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 1:54\u202fAM slery via NFB-Blind-Crafters <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org">nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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ReNae,<br>
<br>
I am curious where you get free kits from? Is there some resource
that provides them? <br>
Cindy<br>
<br>
<div>On 5/4/2026 12:08 PM, ReNae Anderson
via NFB-Blind-Crafters wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I will add
my two cents, for what it is worth. </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">\U0001f60a</span><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I rarely
attend any classes, due to many factors, including the
following.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt">The time of the class, as I am
not in eastern time and often the times are too early for
me, as I am working <u></u><u></u></span></li>
<li style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt">If there is a cost involved, I
won\u2019t attend, as I feel crafting needs to be available to
everyone. I will always stand on this principle. <u></u><u></u></span></li>
<li style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt">If the teacher is difficult to
follow (from past experience) I won\u2019t attend. Nothing
against the person personally, but I am not going to waste
precious time being frustrated if I can\u2019t follow a
teacher. <u></u><u></u></span></li>
<li style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt">Family time is more important to
me than crafting time. This is just the season I am in
and I don\u2019t have time for classes.<u></u><u></u></span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">As for
pattern sharing, I think they should be shared. If it is
requested, share it. I also agree if no one shows up for a
class, the teacher shouldn\u2019t need to teach to an empty room.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I also think
we need to think about why we even have this group. It is
not to keep people from doing crafts, having them pay for
kits, as we are here to share with other blind individuals
that one can still craft, even if they are blind. We are
here for friendship and fellowship, without drama and excess
that no one needs in their life. Perhaps, someone is
nervous, possibly being newly blind, and are not comfortable
crafting yet. They may be adjusting to many things and I am
glad we don\u2019t have near the drama we used to have. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Sometimes, a
regular email update, like \u201cTuesday Tips\u201d or \u201cFriday Fun\u201d
may be more appealing to some, as it gets discussion going
and adds to that relationship building. I always liked the
\u201cWednesday\u2019s Questions,\u201d until someone got upset when
someone else asked a question, rather than the regular
question person. Have it a time where a question can spark
new questions and stay away from the rigidity of having to
have it a certain way. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I feel we
need to be open to people asking questions and not shame
them if their question seems odd of absurd. We are all
different and questions should not be mocked. Honestly, I
haven\u2019t seen this recently, but it has happened in the past.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Well, I have
been outspoken enough this morning. I just know what works
for me and it is just a few of my thoughts.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">ReNae<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
NFB-Blind-Crafters
<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>henry osborne jr via NFB-Blind-Crafters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 4, 2026 9:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'List for Blind Crafters and Artists'
<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org></a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-Blind-Crafters] Ideas<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Good Morning
Jolene and Everyone, I have rethought my original statements
about not giving a person the patterns if they don\u2019t attend
the classes. As you have pointed out Jolene, sometimes
people can\u2019t attend a class because of some conflicts, and,
let\u2019s face it, \u201cLife does happen.\u201d<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
NFB-Blind-Crafters <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jolene Nemeth via NFB-Blind-Crafters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 4, 2026 5:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> List for Blind Crafters and Artists <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jolene Nemeth <<a href="mailto:radar500@gmail.com" target="_blank">radar500@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-Blind-Crafters] Ideas<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">ii too agree that if there arent any
attendees then the class should not be taught. i also agree
about the legalities in that everyone should be told that
the class is being recorded and if you dont want to be
recorded then you can choose to remain silent. participation
in the class indicates your consent to be recorded if you
choose to speak.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">as far as patterns go, if you dont
attend the class but want to and then download the
recording i think you should be given the patterns if you
request them.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">there are lots of reason why folks have
conflicts in attending classes. the recordings make it so
you dont have to offer repeat classes and puts less burden
on instructors in the long run.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">i think it would be great to try this
concept.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 1:55<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM
slery via NFB-Blind-Crafters <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Any time
you record you must announce that it is being recorded
and that if you choose speak on the recording you are
giving consent to be recorded. This is a legal
requirement and nothing to do with the information being
sensitive. This was legally in flux and why NFB Krafters
Division did not record classes.<br>
Cindy<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/3/2026 1:56 PM, Marianne
Denning via NFB-Blind-Crafters wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Courtney that there
should not be a class if no one shows up. Since we
are not talking about sensitive subjects, I don\u2019t
think you need peoples permission to record the
class. I do think you need to let everyone know who
is online that it is being recorded. Zoom also
announces that the recording has been started. That
way everyone does know that they are being recorded.
That is just my opinion for what it\u2019s worth.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">On
May 2, 2026, at 1:58<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM,
Tracy Carcione via NFB-Blind-Crafters <a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org></a>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">\ufeff</span> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
can record Zoom classes, if everyone present
in class agrees. I\u2019m not editing anything. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">If I
record something, will anyone even bother to
come, or will the teacher be talking to
herself? That\u2019s what worries me.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Tracy</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
NFB-Blind-Crafters <a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Kindrick via
NFB-Blind-Crafters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 2, 2026 12:24
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'List for Blind Crafters and
Artists' <a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank"><nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org></a><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-Blind-Crafters]
Ideas</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would very
much be interested in audio reccordings of some
classes. It is not always possible to attend
some of the classes I am interested in. And,
even when I attend a class, I cannot remember
everything. Maybe, I am just getting Old? <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mary K.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
NFB-Blind-Crafters <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jolene Nemeth via
NFB-Blind-Crafters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 2, 2026 1:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> List for Blind Crafters and
Artists <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jolene Nemeth <<a href="mailto:radar500@gmail.com" target="_blank">radar500@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-Blind-Crafters]
Ideas</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">hi there.
hope all is well with you. i was thinking
that a lot of the classes are too late in
the day for me and maybe someothers to
attend. could we possibly allow audio
recordings of classes so others who cant
make the time slots could learn? someone
could put their phone on speaker and test
this out using an audio recorder. victor
stream 3 created good audio recordings this
way for something i did recently. it would
then probably need to be uploaded to drop
box.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">i know many
people dont like drop box but there is a
way to change the end of every drop box
link so it automatically downloads to the
computer downloads folder when someone
activates it.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">just a
thought<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr
30, 2026 at 7:51<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM Tracy
Carcione via NFB-Blind-Crafters <<a href="mailto:nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org" target="_blank">nfb-blind-crafters@nfbnet.org</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">We\u2019ve
started a couple new things with
the new chats and the knit-along,
and a couple ideas for classes,
but what else can we do to make
things interesting and exciting?
Are there ideas for letting more
people know what we do? Are there
ideas for more things we can do?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">All ideas
welcome for consideration.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Tracy</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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