[NFB-Braille-Discussion] Literacy for Adult Learners

Sanho Steele-Louchart sanho817 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 10 19:40:26 UTC 2021


All,

Thank you. Particularly as concerns the idea of reading less at once,
but reading multiple times a day, that is extremely helpful. Otherwise
I'll either read an hour or nothing at all.



On 7/10/21, Jasmyn Po via NFB-Braille-Discussion
<nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I usually do like 30 minutes of writing braille with the slate and stylus
> and the 30 minutes reading Braille what's makes an hour. Or I will do 15
> minutes of writing Braille and 15 minutes of reading Braille. This morning I
> did 30 minutes of writing Braille and 15 minutes of reading the Braille
> Bible which is 45 minutes.
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 1:03 PM, Debbie Gabe<dgabe808 at gmail.com> wrote:
> That is a good start.
> The late Jerry Whittle, who taught braille to adults at LCB for over 30
> years, used to say that in order to see significant improvement in your
> reading speed, you need to read for a good hour every weekday, and more on
> weekends. The hour can be divided up as you need.
> And I've also heard from others that adults should try to read 10,000 pages
> a year to increase their speed. That's approximately 30 pages a day. That
> might not be possible until you increase your speed a bit more. But it's not
> an easy thing to do, at least for me I haven't broken 100 yet either and I
> read all the time. But I'm older (71)
> Good luck
> Debbie
> Hawaii
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Jasmyn Po via NFB-Braille-Discussion
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> Ringlein via NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>;
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> Cc: Jasmyn Po <jazzyep94 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Literacy for Adult Learners
>
> For reading Braille, I tried to read three or four pages in a book for 15
> minutes or 6 pages for 30 minutes.
>
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>
>   On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 10:34 AM, Ellen Ringlein via
> NFB-Braille-Discussion<nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:  Sanho,
>
> And if Braille reading exhausts you to begin with, read several times a day
> in shorter intervals. Over time you will build up your stamina and will be
> able to read more comfortably for longer periods of time. You might want to
> practice both with your Braille display and hard copy Braille. The
> experience is somewhat different with each.
>
> The goal of being able to read aloud at a respectable speed is definitely in
> your reach. The key is to put in lots of time reading. If you just read
> Braille once in a while, your speed won't improve. If it motivates you, keep
> a log of the pages you read every day.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Ellen
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sanho
> Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
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> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Literacy for Adult Learners
>
> All,
>
> Thank you for the encouragement. I've read every book, article, blog, and
> research article I've ever found on the subject. The long and short of it is
> that very, very, *very*  few adult learners have ever been recorded reading
> more than 60-80WPM, and even the outliers are usually at 120 or so. As
> someone pointed out earlier in this thread, that could be bad research, bad
> teaching, limited motivation, or maybe those people were just too busy
> reading to be busy participating in a study about reading. Surely I can
> think of above average skill levels that research isn't good at capturing
> for any number of reasons.
> Regardless, 120 would probably serve my purposes, anyway. My ultimate goals
> are to read fluently aloud and to read so quickly I'm not exhausted after
> just a few pages.
>
> I'll learn to emphasize the braille display and use speech when something is
> truly time-sensitive. Let's see where it takes me.
>
>
> On 7/10/21, Steve Jacobson via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Sanho,
>>
>> I think any goal is worth pursuing.  Just know that braille will help
>> you while you pursue that goal.  There just isn't anything magic about
>> 240 words, but it is worth pursuing.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion
>> <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho
>> Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>> Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:47 PM
>> To: NFB Braille Discussion List <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Literacy for Adult Learners
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> A very welcome reminder. Thank you. I already use braille for labeling
>> and other limited tasks. 120 would be a great target for reading
>> documents aloud in court, for instance. 240 would just be an excellent
>> speed for silent leisure reading. We'll see what happens.
>>
>> I'll make sure my braille display is charged tonight and I'll buy or
>> print a new hardcopy book ASAP. Then I'll read as often as is
>> practicable.
>>
>> On 7/9/21, Steve Jacobson via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Sanho,
>>>
>>> I don't know much about your background, so it is hard to be very
>>> specific.
>>> However, I can think of a number of people just within my NFB chapter
>>> that can likely read at least that fast.  Beyond that, though, you
>>> don't have to read braille that fast to have it be useful.  I have
>>> seen people who learned braille as adults and worked hard enough at
>>> it that they could read out loud at a very respectable rate.  You
>>> don't have to read at 240 words per minute to use braille to read
>>> from your notes for a presentation, for example.
>>>
>>> I would not at all want to discourage you from achieving the fastest
>>> rate you can, but be aware of the fact that speed is only part of the
>>> picture, and if you happened to not reach 240 words per minute, you
>>> will find braille to be very useful.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>
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>>> Behalf Of Sanho Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>> Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 7:53 PM
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>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Literacy for Adult Learners
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Good evening. I hope everyone's had another wonderful Convention.
>>>
>>> Does anyone here know of braille readers who learned as adults and
>>> read at the standard 240+ WPM? I've only heard of one or two people
>>> managing it; most people tell me it's never going to happen. I refuse
>>> to accept that.
>>>
>>> Warmth,
>>> Sanho
>>>
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