[NFB-Braille-Discussion] clarifying my original question.

[Humberto Avila]

Dear Ken, 

I've had a lot of experiences with UEB, and in my experience, I'd say you do not need any special character or symbol to go from the number to the stars. But a couple question first. Are you entering any contractions in your password? Does the password have a number or letter after the stars, or is it just as you have described? Does the NLS eReader have a mode or keystroke to switch between either Computer Braille and UEB, or at least, from uncontracted to contracted Braille? I haven't had my hands on one of those yet, so that is why I've asked. 

I would personally use such a mode in the reader. If not possible, I would first input a Grade 1 word indicator (dots 5,6 twice) on the display before entering complex alphanumeric strings such as that said password. That may solve some of the forward interpretation the Braille reader is making when you submit your password. Also, before entering a number in an alphanumeric string, one has to put the number sign, as you have done. If you would need to input a letter after the numbers, you would use the letters mode indicator (dots 5,6) and there are special rules for combining numbers, letter and things like asterisks and the like in UEB but it would just put you to sleep, so I won't go into that detail. Plus some of it is still complicated to me, even though I am UEB Braille certified in my state. :) 

Another trick is to connect your eReader to your PC as a Braille display and input the password into Notepad or Word and see how it would read on the display as you input it, unless you have already tried that trick. 

Just some thoughts. Hope any of it helps. 

Have an awesome day. 

Humberto 

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 8:05 AM, ken lawrence via NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hi list there seems to be a mixup in my issue with the braille reader.  As mentioned my network password has two stars in it.  Replies to this seem to be telling me that the star is dot 5 and then dots 3 and 5 with no speace. That’s right that’s what I used. I have the reader set with UEB as my profile. I know I have the right symbol because once last week I was troubleshooting a audio issue on my computer and was using the reader for a braille display since I couldn’t hear NVDA and when I signed in I saw the stars on the display. The question is do you have to put some sign in if you are transitioning to special characters the same way you use the 3-4-5-6 sign to indicate numbers and the 5-6 sign to indicate numbers.  The first part of the password is letters, then a number, then the two stars.  When I transition from numbers to that special character do I have to in some way let the reader know, OK, these next characters are symbols namely stars.  As I mentioned APH connect center at least the person I got didn’t know he wasn’t a real active braille reader.  His partner Sharon Hughey is however.  Sharon went to the Oakhill school for the blind like me and she had as I did one of the very best braille instructers of em all named miss calihans.  
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